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30.0.50; Unbundle Idlwave from Emacs?

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>; dated Fri, 24 May 2024 00:22:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#71157: 30.0.50; Unbundle Idlwave from Emacs?
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Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes:

> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
>> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> Package: Emacs
>>> Version: 30.0.50
>>>
>>>
>>> Idlwave has been bundled with Emacs "forever" but that code has been
>>> unmaintained for many years.  There was another version over on Github.
>>> The two have now been consolidated and made available via GNU ELPA
>>> (http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/idlwave.html).
>>>
>>> AFAICT this is a package with a very small audience, so I suggest we
>>> unbundle it from Emacs, leaving it up to users to install it from GNU
>>> ELPA instead.
>>>
>>> Maybe we could move it to `lisp/obsolete` for Emacs-30?
>>
>> SGTM.
>
> +1

I suppose we missed the train for Emacs 30, but how about doing this on
master now?




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Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Package: Emacs
>> Version: 30.0.50
>>
>>
>> Idlwave has been bundled with Emacs "forever" but that code has been
>> unmaintained for many years.  There was another version over on Github.
>> The two have now been consolidated and made available via GNU ELPA
>> (http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/idlwave.html).
>>
>> AFAICT this is a package with a very small audience, so I suggest we
>> unbundle it from Emacs, leaving it up to users to install it from GNU
>> ELPA instead.
>>
>> Maybe we could move it to `lisp/obsolete` for Emacs-30?
>
> SGTM.

+1




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Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:

> Package: Emacs
> Version: 30.0.50
>
>
> Idlwave has been bundled with Emacs "forever" but that code has been
> unmaintained for many years.  There was another version over on Github.
> The two have now been consolidated and made available via GNU ELPA
> (http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/idlwave.html).
>
> AFAICT this is a package with a very small audience, so I suggest we
> unbundle it from Emacs, leaving it up to users to install it from GNU
> ELPA instead.
>
> Maybe we could move it to `lisp/obsolete` for Emacs-30?

SGTM.

  Andrea




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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

> Package: Emacs
> Version: 30.0.50
>
>
> Idlwave has been bundled with Emacs "forever" but that code has been
> unmaintained for many years.  There was another version over on Github.
> The two have now been consolidated and made available via GNU ELPA
> (http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/idlwave.html).
>
> Maybe we could move it to `lisp/obsolete` for Emacs-30?

Why not merge the new version into Emacs 30 instead?  There is 450 GB of
free storage in my computer just waiting to be occupied, while moving
one package into lisp/obsolete will save but a few dozen bytes in
loaddefs.el.

> AFAICT this is a package with a very small audience, so I suggest we
> unbundle it from Emacs, leaving it up to users to install it from GNU
> ELPA instead.

That way lies madness.  A solid three quarters of our features target
very small or specialized audiences, and I trust no one is proposing to
delete, say, lisp/language/tibetan.el or lisp/international/ogonek.el?

I've stated this before and I will again.  Raw popularity is not a
measure of whether a package deserves a place in core, and the
reconciliation of its two divergent versions into a single package under
our auspices actually eliminates one of the more compelling reasons to
divest Emacs of this specific package that emerged last it was
considered.




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> On May 23, 2024, at 8:21=E2=80=AFPM, Stefan Monnier =
<monnier@HIDDEN> wrote:
>=20
> AFAICT this is a package with a very small audience, so I suggest we
> unbundle it from Emacs, leaving it up to users to install it from GNU
> ELPA instead.
>=20
> Maybe we could move it to `lisp/obsolete` for Emacs-30?

I support this plan.   Thanks for your help merging ~10yrs of diverged =
commits.  The version on ELPA is functional with recent versions of IDL.=20=




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Package: Emacs
Version: 30.0.50


Idlwave has been bundled with Emacs "forever" but that code has been
unmaintained for many years.  There was another version over on Github.
The two have now been consolidated and made available via GNU ELPA
(http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/idlwave.html).

AFAICT this is a package with a very small audience, so I suggest we
unbundle it from Emacs, leaving it up to users to install it from GNU
ELPA instead.

Maybe we could move it to `lisp/obsolete` for Emacs-30?


        Stefan


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jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer
nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian
utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray button loaddefs
theme-loaddefs oclosure cl-preloaded faces cus-face macroexp files
window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages
mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads
dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting
cairo gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty move-toolbar
make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 12508668 614114) (symbols 48 57384 102)
 (strings 32 285494 56312) (string-bytes 1 8292658) (vectors 16 119566)
 (vector-slots 8 2375662 729957) (floats 8 1196 16632)
 (intervals 56 19567 3647) (buffers 992 134))





Acknowledgement sent to Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to jdtsmith@HIDDEN, monnier@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to jdtsmith@HIDDEN, monnier@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#71157; Package emacs. Full text available.
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