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Full text available.Received: (at 71363) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2024 15:21:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 05 11:21:26 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sPkkY-0002A8-8c for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 11:21:26 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:42068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ikumi@HIDDEN>) id 1sPkkW-00029x-FR for 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 11:21:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-18-247.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.18.247]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5936B60; Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:21:18 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> To: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71363: 14.0.5; AUCTeX 14.05 and LaTeX Mode In-reply-to: <m2ikxkuwbh.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <ba011e06-cff2-4f1e-8e53-d4379d517384@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PZLQPCTEsGcf9c_xU4fvBG4kyEs8Nr_1TDWJrhWOpKKA@HIDDEN> <11118.1717564510@localhost> <m2ikxrv6d3.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PtrgOgpAwpFPjTSdc_1YYV_PKV3ZZ1CGBWn4ZAMh=oxw@HIDDEN> <m2wmm5r1oo.fsf@HIDDEN> <8224.1719823489@localhost> <m2sewtqpqe.fsf@HIDDEN> <8788.1719839712@localhost> <m2msmzobqh.fsf@HIDDEN> <18464.1720000038@localhost> <m2ikxkuwbh.fsf@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> message dated "Fri, 05 Jul 2024 09:33:54 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7074.1720192878.1@localhost> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 00:21:18 +0900 Message-ID: <7075.1720192878@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71363 Cc: 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Morelli <morelli@HIDDEN>, Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Arash, >>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes: > Thanks, catering for `major-mode-remap-defaults' is probably a good > idea. I have some minor comments below. Thanks. >> --- a/tex-site.el.in >> +++ b/tex-site.el.in >> @@ -113,29 +113,53 @@ Arrange the redirection of the built-in TeX modes= according to VALUE. >> - The built-in modes in VALUE are redirected to the corresponding >> AUCTeX major modes. >> - The built-in modes not in VALUE discard redirection, if any. >> -If `major-mode-remap-alist' is available, use it for redirection. >> -Otherwise, use advice facility." >> +If either `major-mode-remap-defaults' or `major-mode-remap-alist' >> +is available, use it for redirection > , in that order OK, I'll add those words. >> + ;; Keep compatibility. (bug#71363) >> + (if (eq elt 'latex-mode) >> + (with-eval-after-load 'org-src >> + (progn > Do you need this extra `progn' inside `with-eval-after-load'? Thanks. I didn't realize the difference of syntax between `eval-after-load' and `with-eval-after-load'. Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW
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Hi Keita,
Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> writes:
> I'd like to take this opportunity to take `major-mode-remap-defaults',
> which will be introduced in Emacs 30, into account as well so that
> AUCTeX wouldn't alter the user customize option
> `major-mode-remap-alist'. Thus I propose the attached patch.
Thanks, catering for `major-mode-remap-defaults' is probably a good
idea. I have some minor comments below.
> From 78a32e5605a75f2cdbe0e0e3355aad158801b527 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:55:11 +0900
> Subject: [PATCH] Keep compatibility with Org mode src editing (bug#71363)
>
> * tex-site.el.in (TeX-modes-set): Add entries for AUCTeX LaTeX mode to
> `org-src-lang-modes'.
> Use `major-mode-remap-defaults' for Emacs 30 and later, instead of
> `major-mode-remap-alist', in order to avoid altering user customize
> option.
> ---
> tex-site.el.in | 58 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
> 1 file changed, 41 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/tex-site.el.in b/tex-site.el.in
> index 911a2080..62e6583b 100644
> --- a/tex-site.el.in
> +++ b/tex-site.el.in
> @@ -113,29 +113,53 @@ Arrange the redirection of the built-in TeX modes according to VALUE.
> - The built-in modes in VALUE are redirected to the corresponding
> AUCTeX major modes.
> - The built-in modes not in VALUE discard redirection, if any.
> -If `major-mode-remap-alist' is available, use it for redirection.
> -Otherwise, use advice facility."
> +If either `major-mode-remap-defaults' or `major-mode-remap-alist'
> +is available, use it for redirection
, in that order
> . Otherwise, use advice
> +facility."
> (custom-set-default var value)
> (let (elt dst)
> (dolist (entry TeX-mode-alist)
> (setq elt (car entry)
> dst (cdr entry))
> (if (memq elt value)
> - (if (boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
> - (or (eq (cdr-safe (assq elt major-mode-remap-alist)) dst)
> - (push (cons elt dst) major-mode-remap-alist))
> - ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
> - (advice-add elt :override dst
> - ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 28.[12]
> - ;; Give it higher precedence than the :around
> - ;; advice given to `tex-mode' in tex-mode.el.
> - ;; <URL:https://lists.gnu.org/r/auctex-devel/2022-09/msg00050.html>
> - '((depth . -10))))
> - (if (boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
> - (setq major-mode-remap-alist
> - (delete entry major-mode-remap-alist))
> - ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
> - (advice-remove elt dst))))))
> + (progn
> + (cond ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-defaults)
> + ;; For Emacs 30 and later
> + (add-to-list 'major-mode-remap-defaults (cons elt dst)))
> + ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
> + ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 29
> + (add-to-list 'major-mode-remap-alist (cons elt dst)))
> + (t
> + ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
> + (advice-add elt :override dst
> + ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 28
> + ;; Give it higher precedence than the :around
> + ;; advice given to `tex-mode' in tex-mode.el.
> + ;; <URL:https://lists.gnu.org/r/auctex-devel/2022-09/msg00050.html>
> + '((depth . -10)))))
> + ;; Keep compatibility. (bug#71363)
> + (if (eq elt 'latex-mode)
> + (with-eval-after-load 'org-src
> + (progn
Do you need this extra `progn' inside `with-eval-after-load'?
> + (defvar org-src-lang-modes) ; Silence byte compiler.
> + ;; Check the actual presence in the entry in case
> + ;; that the user once choosed AUCTeX LaTeX mode and
> + ;; abandoned it afterwards in the same emacs
> + ;; session.
> + (when (memq 'latex-mode TeX-modes)
> + (push '("latex" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes)
> + (push '("beamer" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes))))))
> + (cond ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-defaults)
> + ;; For Emacs 30 and later
> + (setq major-mode-remap-defaults
> + (delete entry major-mode-remap-defaults)))
> + ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
> + ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 29
> + (setq major-mode-remap-alist
> + (delete entry major-mode-remap-alist)))
> + (t
> + ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
> + (advice-remove elt dst)))))))
>
> (defcustom TeX-modes
> (mapcar #'car TeX-mode-alist)
Best, Arash
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So for me, introducing new names was > also a chance to cut off with that old habit. But as I said in my other > message, I don't want to block a feature I don't use. If you and Keita > think we should do this, let's do it. > I could just as well be persuaded that AUCTeX should never take over by default. Then, anyone updating AUCTeX to add something to their config (a couple lines saying where LaTeX-mode should activate). I guess that'd cause a lot of headache -- I know that I didn't read NEWS when updating for many years, and imagine the same is true for many users. My main suggestion is that the default behavior should be consistent between tex files and source blocks, so as not to cause surprises like in the original message in this thread.
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Hi Arash,
>>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:
>> I'd say that people who have such strange preference should be
>> prepared for their difficulty and be able to deal with it by
>> themselves.
> I don't use this feature, so I don't want to be against it too much, so
> if you think it is a good addition, please go ahead and install it. I
> know where to forward the complaints once they arrive ;-)
=F0=9F=98=9C
I'd like to take this opportunity to take `major-mode-remap-defaults',
which will be introduced in Emacs 30, into account as well so that
AUCTeX wouldn't alter the user customize option
`major-mode-remap-alist'. Thus I propose the attached patch.
Regards,
Ikumi Keita
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filename=0001-Keep-compatibility-with-Org-mode-src-editing-bug-713.patch
Content-Description: Update to tex-site.el.in
From 78a32e5605a75f2cdbe0e0e3355aad158801b527 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:55:11 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Keep compatibility with Org mode src editing (bug#71363)
* tex-site.el.in (TeX-modes-set): Add entries for AUCTeX LaTeX mode to
`org-src-lang-modes'.
Use `major-mode-remap-defaults' for Emacs 30 and later, instead of
`major-mode-remap-alist', in order to avoid altering user customize
option.
---
tex-site.el.in | 58 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
1 file changed, 41 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
diff --git a/tex-site.el.in b/tex-site.el.in
index 911a2080..62e6583b 100644
--- a/tex-site.el.in
+++ b/tex-site.el.in
@@ -113,29 +113,53 @@ Arrange the redirection of the built-in TeX modes according to VALUE.
- The built-in modes in VALUE are redirected to the corresponding
AUCTeX major modes.
- The built-in modes not in VALUE discard redirection, if any.
-If `major-mode-remap-alist' is available, use it for redirection.
-Otherwise, use advice facility."
+If either `major-mode-remap-defaults' or `major-mode-remap-alist'
+is available, use it for redirection. Otherwise, use advice
+facility."
(custom-set-default var value)
(let (elt dst)
(dolist (entry TeX-mode-alist)
(setq elt (car entry)
dst (cdr entry))
(if (memq elt value)
- (if (boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
- (or (eq (cdr-safe (assq elt major-mode-remap-alist)) dst)
- (push (cons elt dst) major-mode-remap-alist))
- ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
- (advice-add elt :override dst
- ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 28.[12]
- ;; Give it higher precedence than the :around
- ;; advice given to `tex-mode' in tex-mode.el.
- ;; <URL:https://lists.gnu.org/r/auctex-devel/2022-09/msg00050.html>
- '((depth . -10))))
- (if (boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
- (setq major-mode-remap-alist
- (delete entry major-mode-remap-alist))
- ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
- (advice-remove elt dst))))))
+ (progn
+ (cond ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-defaults)
+ ;; For Emacs 30 and later
+ (add-to-list 'major-mode-remap-defaults (cons elt dst)))
+ ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
+ ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 29
+ (add-to-list 'major-mode-remap-alist (cons elt dst)))
+ (t
+ ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
+ (advice-add elt :override dst
+ ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 28
+ ;; Give it higher precedence than the :around
+ ;; advice given to `tex-mode' in tex-mode.el.
+ ;; <URL:https://lists.gnu.org/r/auctex-devel/2022-09/msg00050.html>
+ '((depth . -10)))))
+ ;; Keep compatibility. (bug#71363)
+ (if (eq elt 'latex-mode)
+ (with-eval-after-load 'org-src
+ (progn
+ (defvar org-src-lang-modes) ; Silence byte compiler.
+ ;; Check the actual presence in the entry in case
+ ;; that the user once choosed AUCTeX LaTeX mode and
+ ;; abandoned it afterwards in the same emacs
+ ;; session.
+ (when (memq 'latex-mode TeX-modes)
+ (push '("latex" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes)
+ (push '("beamer" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes))))))
+ (cond ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-defaults)
+ ;; For Emacs 30 and later
+ (setq major-mode-remap-defaults
+ (delete entry major-mode-remap-defaults)))
+ ((boundp 'major-mode-remap-alist)
+ ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs 29
+ (setq major-mode-remap-alist
+ (delete entry major-mode-remap-alist)))
+ (t
+ ;; COMPATIBILITY for Emacs<29
+ (advice-remove elt dst)))))))
(defcustom TeX-modes
(mapcar #'car TeX-mode-alist)
--
2.44.0
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Full text available.Received: (at 71363) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2024 19:13:05 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 02 15:13:05 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sOiw4-0007k9-Sr for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:13:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1sOiw3-0007jf-7Q for 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:13:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1sOivt-0006yC-QP; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:12:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=Ya3PdoglYzw/t9vCRHp0T4RJH+pHyUN1BAj0xOZuiRE=; b=NIURlc+96xWoAWiiSouF BlQsaeJ4DjaFACmGVFhkeBNIZ3YRadtaIA3T6GfHMvBcq+BSNzpK1wfFfxYNd7MkFU86wqowYb4hS UAqRIamaXeZsptLvY4L7NraHaA3KxChsUpz+S+eUmCy9RgmZRGfVnONxvF3akKZUIFbN8Pwhe4oRd jdaabdDVmJUJpVv9ApPMhfuUglZt4K9s6vUihHMYkXqzy7y3PSJPuVJdpLAthmZ15DdbpjPbSBAUc DNK+7grsK9MLfcQAV2XbyDf87EMwdyuyuBkSXclvCStCfUWwrGuDklRJtuzLo/pp4qkhI8X5KGf+8 SQsWM7UHSdWt8w==; From: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> To: Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71363: 14.0.5; AUCTeX 14.05 and LaTeX Mode In-Reply-To: <CAOA-32MHhcVXz1j-QUfZb6cT4HU84WqDOP=syrBT-1vb_K9HLA@HIDDEN> (Paul Nelson's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:53:16 +0200") References: <ba011e06-cff2-4f1e-8e53-d4379d517384@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PZLQPCTEsGcf9c_xU4fvBG4kyEs8Nr_1TDWJrhWOpKKA@HIDDEN> <11118.1717564510@localhost> <m2ikxrv6d3.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PtrgOgpAwpFPjTSdc_1YYV_PKV3ZZ1CGBWn4ZAMh=oxw@HIDDEN> <m2wmm5r1oo.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32MHhcVXz1j-QUfZb6cT4HU84WqDOP=syrBT-1vb_K9HLA@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 21:12:49 +0200 Message-ID: <m2ikxnobf2.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71363 Cc: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN>, 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Morelli <morelli@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Paul, Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> writes: > My thought was that making AUCTeX load automatically in src mode > blocks is similar to doing the same for tex files. Both require > adjustments that could be left to the user, but have been automatic > for at least a couple decades. While forcing such adjustments via > tex-site goes against the general convention that loading packages > should have no direct effect, there is ultimately no loss of > flexibility, since the user can always tweak major-mode-remap-alist > and org-src-lang-modes after AUCTeX loads. The question is what > should be the default behavior. Here I would vote in favor of the > established practice, to spare other users the issue noted by Robert > (which I had also encountered). Yes, that sounds reasonable, but OTOH, we had also a lot of complaints that AUCTeX took over latex-mode. So for me, introducing new names was also a chance to cut off with that old habit. But as I said in my other message, I don't want to block a feature I don't use. If you and Keita think we should do this, let's do it. Best, Arash
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Full text available.Received: (at 71363) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2024 19:08:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 02 15:08:22 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sOirW-0007cz-6G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:08:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41466) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1sOirU-0007cm-KO for 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:08:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1sOipG-0005Rf-8O; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:06:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=ZsG3E67QbQLiGNRFS0HYteQo+rETQjqQcd7g6W8lvSw=; b=rZMq7zfmYvKZTifdV+Lh J8bP+HrCArNYXNK5ffobhfGNi4dkqsH4ZIgkUM+w37qGqaKfHyu0dAPtamHBYsYjS3TXAF37LFVtA agehwPRoVITMC9gCIxkltINWyXr5eDa9Sp6ZsLLE1KHeNmuKZzJjECgYOU601tE5HEEJRCTNOUKXL b6y9d/h7mwYZTHm6nhmRJKFyvU2MvxxLoE9yPtX+xgcLntPwRB3jApKMIsC/wiv4sIuZ8wkrUiBIA sDQyDKZdmlMUlcCrvlnlmGiBtdVamzLqwGaOX14XcWV+psQ2E3KAV6tKB5H66u+aLbOoTeazTtNxf pHCAvVjuRWRyXg==; From: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> To: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71363: 14.0.5; AUCTeX 14.05 and LaTeX Mode In-Reply-To: <8788.1719839712@localhost> (Ikumi Keita's message of "Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:15:12 +0900") References: <ba011e06-cff2-4f1e-8e53-d4379d517384@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PZLQPCTEsGcf9c_xU4fvBG4kyEs8Nr_1TDWJrhWOpKKA@HIDDEN> <11118.1717564510@localhost> <m2ikxrv6d3.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PtrgOgpAwpFPjTSdc_1YYV_PKV3ZZ1CGBWn4ZAMh=oxw@HIDDEN> <m2wmm5r1oo.fsf@HIDDEN> <8224.1719823489@localhost> <m2sewtqpqe.fsf@HIDDEN> <8788.1719839712@localhost> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 21:05:58 +0200 Message-ID: <m2msmzobqh.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71363 Cc: 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Morelli <morelli@HIDDEN>, Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Keita, Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> writes: > I think so. `major-mode-remap-alist' is rather new in emacs history, > so I suppose there is no code other than `set-auto-mode' (and its > helper functions) that takes `major-mode-remap-alist' into account > when it determines the major mode function to run. Well, that's a pity :-( > You mean that they want to have AUCTeX for LaTeX documents (.tex files) > and built-in mode for Org source blocks? That's very unusual > situation; :-) Yes, that's a possible scenario I had in my mind. This is at least my observation over the last couple of years that AUCTeX's take-over of various major modes was not appreciated by everybody. > I'd say that people who have such strange preference should be > prepared for their difficulty and be able to deal with it by > themselves. I don't use this feature, so I don't want to be against it too much, so if you think it is a good addition, please go ahead and install it. I know where to forward the complaints once they arrive ;-) Best, Arash
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I wonder why we can't leave this decision to the user? > My thought was that making AUCTeX load automatically in src mode blocks is similar to doing the same for tex files. Both require adjustments that could be left to the user, but have been automatic for at least a couple decades. While forcing such adjustments via tex-site goes against the general convention that loading packages should have no direct effect, there is ultimately no loss of flexibility, since the user can always tweak major-mode-remap-alist and org-src-lang-modes after AUCTeX loads. The question is what should be the default behavior. Here I would vote in favor of the established practice, to spare other users the issue noted by Robert (which I had also encountered).
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Full text available.Received: (at 71363) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jul 2024 13:15:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 01 09:15:18 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60523 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sOGsI-0003Lr-1C for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 09:15:18 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:58994) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ikumi@HIDDEN>) id 1sOGsF-0003Lg-PQ for 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 09:15:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-18-247.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.18.247]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1AEF5C; Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:15:12 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> To: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71363: 14.0.5; AUCTeX 14.05 and LaTeX Mode In-reply-to: <m2sewtqpqe.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <ba011e06-cff2-4f1e-8e53-d4379d517384@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PZLQPCTEsGcf9c_xU4fvBG4kyEs8Nr_1TDWJrhWOpKKA@HIDDEN> <11118.1717564510@localhost> <m2ikxrv6d3.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOA-32PtrgOgpAwpFPjTSdc_1YYV_PKV3ZZ1CGBWn4ZAMh=oxw@HIDDEN> <m2wmm5r1oo.fsf@HIDDEN> <8224.1719823489@localhost> <m2sewtqpqe.fsf@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> message dated "Mon, 01 Jul 2024 14:08:25 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8787.1719839712.1@localhost> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:15:12 +0900 Message-ID: <8788.1719839712@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71363 Cc: 71363 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Morelli <morelli@HIDDEN>, Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Arash, >>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes: > Ah, Ok, thanks. And IIUC having an entry like this > (latex-mode . LaTeX-mode) > in `major-mode-remap-alist' doesn't help either, right? I think so. `major-mode-remap-alist' is rather new in emacs history, so I suppose there is no code other than `set-auto-mode' (and its helper functions) that takes `major-mode-remap-alist' into account when it determines the major mode function to run. > My only fear is that we change things outside AUCTeX from Lisp and > people will than tell us they use AUCTeX for usual TeX-writing and the > built-in mode for Org source blocks; and then the real fun begins. You mean that they want to have AUCTeX for LaTeX documents (.tex files) and built-in mode for Org source blocks? That's very unusual situation; :-) I'd say that people who have such strange preference should be prepared for their difficulty and be able to deal with it by themselves. Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW
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Hi Keita,
Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> writes:
> I don't think that's enough. If I understand correctly, the major
> problem is that LaTeX code block other than beamer code block is handled
> by `latex-mode' by default. The doc string of `org-edit-special' says:
> ,----
> | The LaTeX environment is copied into a new buffer. Major mode is
> | set to the one associated to "latex" in =E2=80=98org-src-lang-modes=E2=
=80=99,
> | or to =E2=80=98latex-mode=E2=80=99 if there is none.
> `----
Ah, Ok, thanks. And IIUC having an entry like this
(latex-mode . LaTeX-mode)
in `major-mode-remap-alist' doesn't help either, right? (At least for
newer Emacs versions.)
> So users have to add another entry
> ("latex" . LaTeX)
> in =E2=80=98org-src-lang-modes=E2=80=99.
>
> As I wrote in the separate message, I think AUCTeX can accept to add
> such entry by default.
>
> (But adding
> ("latex" . LaTeX)
> and changing
> ("beamer" . latex)
> to
> ("beamer" . LaTeX)
> aren't much trouble, after all. So it's reasonable as well to leave this
> decision to the user, of course.)
My only fear is that we change things outside AUCTeX from Lisp and
people will than tell us they use AUCTeX for usual TeX-writing and the
built-in mode for Org source blocks; and then the real fun begins.
Best, Arash
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Hi Arash,
>>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:
> Thanks. I wonder why we can't leave this decision to the user?
> ,----[ C-h v org-src-lang-modes RET ]
> | org-src-lang-modes is a variable defined in $B!F(Borg-src.el$B!G(B.
...
> `----
> So people only need to customize
> ("beamer" . latex)
> to
> ("beamer" . LaTeX)
> and it should work, IIUC.
I don't think that's enough. If I understand correctly, the major
problem is that LaTeX code block other than beamer code block is handled
by `latex-mode' by default. The doc string of `org-edit-special' says:
,----
| The LaTeX environment is copied into a new buffer. Major mode is
| set to the one associated to "latex" in $B!F(Borg-src-lang-modes$B!G(B,
| or to $B!F(Blatex-mode$B!G(B if there is none.
`----
So users have to add another entry
("latex" . LaTeX)
in $B!F(Borg-src-lang-modes$B!G(B.
As I wrote in the separate message, I think AUCTeX can accept to add
such entry by default.
(But adding
("latex" . LaTeX)
and changing
("beamer" . latex)
to
("beamer" . LaTeX)
aren't much trouble, after all. So it's reasonable as well to leave this
decision to the user, of course.)
Regards,
Ikumi Keita
#StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine
#Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW
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Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> writes:
> I checked that Ikumi's suggestion addresses the issue (more correctly
> than my own workaround), but feel that AUCTeX should do something like
> this by default, like it did (incidentally, via mode aliasing) until
> the recent update. I'm not sure how best to do that.
Thanks. I wonder why we can't leave this decision to the user?
,----[ C-h v org-src-lang-modes RET ]
| org-src-lang-modes is a variable defined in =E2=80=98org-src.el=E2=80=99.
|=20
| Its value is shown below.
|=20
| Alist mapping languages to their major mode.
|=20
| The key is the language name. The value is the mode name, as
| a string or a symbol, without the "-mode" suffix.
|=20
| For many languages this is simple, but for language where this is
| not the case, this variable provides a way to simplify things on
| the user side. For example, there is no =E2=80=98ocaml-mode=E2=80=99 in =
Emacs,
| but the mode to use is =E2=80=98tuareg-mode=E2=80=99.
|=20
| This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
| version 9.7 of the Org package that is part of Emacs 30.1.
| You can customize this variable.
|=20
| Value:
| (("C" . c) ("C++" . c++) ("asymptote" . asy) ("beamer" . latex)
| ("calc" . fundamental) ("cpp" . c++) ("ditaa" . artist)
| ("desktop" . conf-desktop) ("dot" . fundamental)
| ("elisp" . emacs-lisp) ("ocaml" . tuareg) ("screen" . shell-script)
| ("sqlite" . sql) ("toml" . conf-toml) ("shell" . sh) ("ash" . sh)
| ("sh" . sh) ("bash" . sh) ("jsh" . sh) ("bash2" . sh) ("dash" . sh)
| ("dtksh" . sh) ("ksh" . sh) ("es" . sh) ("rc" . sh) ("itcsh" . sh)
| ("tcsh" . sh) ("jcsh" . sh) ("csh" . sh) ("ksh88" . sh) ("oash" . sh)
| ("pdksh" . sh) ("mksh" . sh) ("posix" . sh) ("wksh" . sh)
| ("wsh" . sh) ("zsh" . sh) ("rpm" . sh))
`----
So people only need to customize
("beamer" . latex)
to
("beamer" . LaTeX)
and it should work, IIUC. Org is making a suggestion for the default,
so it's about changing the default. Or am I missing something?
Best, Arash
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> wrote=
:
>
> Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > I'm afraid that isn't a suuposed way to call a major function in emacs.
> > The doc string of `org-edit-special' says:
> > ,----
> > | The LaTeX environment is copied into a new buffer. Major mode is
> > | set to the one associated to "latex" in =E2=80=98org-src-lang-modes=
=E2=80=99,
> > | or to =E2=80=98latex-mode=E2=80=99 if there is none.
> > `----
> > Thus I expect
> > (with-eval-after-load 'org-src
> > (push '("latex" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes))
> > in your init file does the job. (Maybe you have also to put
> > (setcdr (assoc "beamer" org-src-lang-modes) 'LaTeX)
> > in the `with-eval-after-load' form if you have beamer src block in your
> > org file.)
>
> Ping! Any updates on this?
>
> Best, Arash
I checked that Ikumi's suggestion addresses the issue (more correctly
than my own workaround), but feel that AUCTeX should do something like
this by default, like it did (incidentally, via mode aliasing) until
the recent update. I'm not sure how best to do that. I guess one
could just stick Ikumi's with-eval-after-load block somewhere in
tex.el, but that goes against the general advice of avoiding
with-eval-after-load in package files?
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Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi Robert and Paul,
>
>>>>>> Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> writes:
>>> Functionally, version 14.0.5 has at least one shortcoming that makes it
>>> unusable for me: invoking org-edit-special from an org-mode latex src b=
lock
>>> opens a buffer in latex-mode (not LaTeX-mode). This is a change from
>>> version 13.3.
>
>> In case it's of any help, I've been using (add-hook 'latex-mode-hook
>> #'LaTeX-mode) as a workaround for the source block issue that you
>> mention
>
> I'm afraid that isn't a suuposed way to call a major function in emacs.
> The doc string of `org-edit-special' says:
> ,----
> | The LaTeX environment is copied into a new buffer. Major mode is
> | set to the one associated to "latex" in =E2=80=98org-src-lang-modes=E2=
=80=99,
> | or to =E2=80=98latex-mode=E2=80=99 if there is none.
> `----
> Thus I expect
> (with-eval-after-load 'org-src
> (push '("latex" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes))
> in your init file does the job. (Maybe you have also to put
> (setcdr (assoc "beamer" org-src-lang-modes) 'LaTeX)
> in the `with-eval-after-load' form if you have beamer src block in your
> org file.)
Ping! Any updates on this?
Best, Arash
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Hi Robert and Paul,
>>>>> Paul Nelson <ultrono@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Functionally, version 14.0.5 has at least one shortcoming that makes it
>> unusable for me: invoking org-edit-special from an org-mode latex src block
>> opens a buffer in latex-mode (not LaTeX-mode). This is a change from
>> version 13.3.
> In case it's of any help, I've been using (add-hook 'latex-mode-hook
> #'LaTeX-mode) as a workaround for the source block issue that you
> mention
I'm afraid that isn't a suuposed way to call a major function in emacs.
The doc string of `org-edit-special' says:
,----
| The LaTeX environment is copied into a new buffer. Major mode is
| set to the one associated to "latex" in $B!F(Borg-src-lang-modes$B!G(B,
| or to $B!F(Blatex-mode$B!G(B if there is none.
`----
Thus I expect
(with-eval-after-load 'org-src
(push '("latex" . LaTeX) org-src-lang-modes))
in your init file does the job. (Maybe you have also to put
(setcdr (assoc "beamer" org-src-lang-modes) 'LaTeX)
in the `with-eval-after-load' form if you have beamer src block in your
org file.)
Regards,
Ikumi Keita
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Robert Morelli <morelli@HIDDEN> writes:
> I am reporting about some confusion as to which version of AUCTeX is
> current and stable. On the AUCTeX home page
> (https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/), it is stated that version
> 13.3 is the current version, but the version on the GNU ELPA site is
> 14.0.5.
The home page is updated with every tarball release. The last one was
13.3. AUCTeX made an exception and bumped the major version number on
ELPA because of some internal changes, mostly the name of the mode. You
can read the whole story here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/auctex-devel/2024-01/msg00002.html
> This is an inconvenience for anyone who uses automatic package updates.
Sorry for that, but this issue should be resolved soon. FTR: 14.0.5
from ELPA is the latest stable version, devel-ELPA offers the latest
development version.
> Functionally, version 14.0.5 has at least one shortcoming that makes it
> unusable for me: invoking org-edit-special from an org-mode latex src blo=
ck
> opens a buffer in latex-mode (not LaTeX-mode). This is a change from
> version 13.3.
Can you provide an example and a recipe how to reproduce this? I don't
use this feature from Org, so I can only guess that it could help when
you customize `major-mode-remap-alist' and add the following entry to
it:
(latex-mode . LaTeX-mode)
Usually, AUCTeX does that, but maybe it happens too late in your case.
> current state:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> (setq
> =C2=A0TeX-command-list '(("LatexMk" "latexmk %(-PDF)%S%(mode)
> %(file-line-error) %(extraopts) %t" TeX-run-latexmk nil
> (plain-tex-mode latex-mode doctex-mode) :help "Run LatexMk")
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ("LaTeXMk" "latexmk %(latexmk-ou=
t)
> %(file-line-error) %`%(extraopts) %S%(mode)%' %t" TeX-run-format nil
> (LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode) :help "Run LaTeXMk")))
While we're at it: AUCTeX has also built-in support for LaTeXMk. I
don't know how you add the first entry to `TeX-command-list', but do you
want to give the built-in one a roll and see if it works as well? TIA.
Best, Arash
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#71363; Package auctex.
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I am reporting about some confusion as to which version of AUCTeX is
current and stable. On the AUCTeX home page
(https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/), it is stated that version
13.3 is the current version, but the version on the GNU ELPA site is
14.0.5.
This is an inconvenience for anyone who uses automatic package updates.
Functionally, version 14.0.5 has at least one shortcoming that makes it
unusable for me: invoking org-edit-special from an org-mode latex src block
opens a buffer in latex-mode (not LaTeX-mode). This is a change from
version 13.3.
Either way, something is amiss.
Emacs : GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin23.4.0, NS
appkit-2487.50 Version 14.4.1 (Build 23E224))
of 2024-04-19
Package: 14.0.5
current state:
==============
(setq
AUCTeX-date "2024-05-19_09:43:32"
window-system 'ns
LaTeX-version "2e"
TeX-style-path '("/usr/local/var/auctex"
"/Users/robertmorelli/.config/emacs/elpa/auctex-14.0.5/style"
"/Users/robertmorelli/.config/emacs/auctex/auto"
"/Users/robertmorelli/.config/emacs/auctex/style" "auto" "style")
TeX-auto-save t
TeX-parse-self t
TeX-master nil
TeX-command-list '(("LatexMk" "latexmk %(-PDF)%S%(mode)
%(file-line-error) %(extraopts) %t" TeX-run-latexmk nil (plain-tex-mode
latex-mode doctex-mode) :help "Run LatexMk")
("TeX" "%(PDF)%(tex) %(file-line-error)
%`%(extraopts) %S%(PDFout)%(mode)%' %(output-dir) %t" TeX-run-TeX nil
(plain-TeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Run plain TeX")
("LaTeX" "%`%l%(mode)%' %T" TeX-run-TeX nil
(LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode) :help "Run LaTeX")
("Makeinfo" "makeinfo %(extraopts) %(o-dir) %t"
TeX-run-compile nil (Texinfo-mode) :help "Run Makeinfo with Info output")
("Makeinfo HTML" "makeinfo %(extraopts) %(o-dir)
--html %t" TeX-run-compile nil (Texinfo-mode) :help "Run Makeinfo with
HTML output")
("AmSTeX" "amstex %(PDFout) %`%(extraopts)
%S%(mode)%' %(output-dir) %t" TeX-run-TeX nil (AmSTeX-mode) :help "Run
AMSTeX")
("ConTeXt" "%(cntxcom) --once %(extraopts)
%(execopts)%t" TeX-run-TeX nil (ConTeXt-mode) :help "Run ConTeXt once")
("ConTeXt Full" "%(cntxcom) %(extraopts)
%(execopts)%t" TeX-run-TeX nil (ConTeXt-mode) :help "Run ConTeXt until
completion")
("BibTeX" "bibtex %(O?aux)" TeX-run-BibTeX nil
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode
ConTeXt-mode) :help "Run BibTeX")
("Biber" "biber %(output-dir) %s" TeX-run-Biber nil
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Run Biber")
("Texindex" "texindex %s.??" TeX-run-command nil
(Texinfo-mode) :help "Run Texindex")
("Texi2dvi" "%(PDF)texi2dvi %t" TeX-run-command nil
(Texinfo-mode) :help "Run Texi2dvi or Texi2pdf")
("View" "%V" TeX-run-discard-or-function t t :help
"Run Viewer") ("Print" "%p" TeX-run-command t t :help "Print the file")
("Queue" "%q" TeX-run-background nil t :help "View
the printer queue" :visible TeX-queue-command)
("File" "%(o?)dvips %d -o %f " TeX-run-dvips t
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Generate PostScript file")
("Dvips" "%(o?)dvips %d -o %f " TeX-run-dvips nil
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Convert DVI file to PostScript")
("Dvipdfmx" "dvipdfmx -o %(O?pdf) %d"
TeX-run-dvipdfmx nil (plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode
Texinfo-mode) :help
"Convert DVI file to PDF with dvipdfmx")
("Ps2pdf" "ps2pdf %f %(O?pdf)" TeX-run-ps2pdf nil
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Convert PostScript file to PDF")
("LaTeXMk" "latexmk %(latexmk-out)
%(file-line-error) %`%(extraopts) %S%(mode)%' %t" TeX-run-format nil
(LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode) :help "Run LaTeXMk")
("Glossaries" "makeglossaries %(d-dir) %s"
TeX-run-command nil (plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode
Texinfo-mode) :help
"Run makeglossaries to create glossary file")
("Index" "makeindex %(O?idx)" TeX-run-index nil
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Run makeindex to create index file")
("upMendex" "upmendex %(O?idx)" TeX-run-index t
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Run upmendex to create index file")
("Xindy" "texindy %s" TeX-run-command nil
(plain-TeX-mode LaTeX-mode docTeX-mode AmSTeX-mode Texinfo-mode) :help
"Run xindy to create index file")
("Check" "chktex -v6 %s" TeX-run-compile nil
(LaTeX-mode) :help "Check LaTeX file for correctness")
("ChkTeX" "chktex -v6 %s" TeX-run-compile nil
(LaTeX-mode) :help "Check LaTeX file for common mistakes")
("Spell" "(TeX-ispell-document \"\")"
TeX-run-function nil t :help "Spell-check the document")
("Clean" "TeX-clean" TeX-run-function nil t :help
"Delete generated intermediate files")
("Clean All" "(TeX-clean t)" TeX-run-function nil t
:help "Delete generated intermediate and output files")
("Other" "" TeX-run-command t t :help "Run an
arbitrary command")
("sagemath" "sage %s.sagetex.sage" TeX-run-command
nil t :help "Run SAGE on the SAGE file corresponding to this LaTeX file
(run latex first)."))
)
Robert Morelli <morelli@HIDDEN>:bug-auctex@HIDDEN.
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