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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71556 Cc: Simon Josefsson <simon@HIDDEN>, 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN> writes: > Am Dienstag, dem 22.10.2024 um 10:21 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson: >> I saw the problem a couple of more times, but I have switched away >> from kgx (which I think is called Konsol not Console?) to the old >> Terminal app and haven=E2=80=99t had any issues since. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m= okay closing this >> bug report unless there is some more information from anyone else who >> have time to debug the kgx/Mesa issue further. > It might well be Konsol in some language =E2=80=93 it's Console in Englis= h. As > for kgx/Mesa bugs, there might be some due to GTK using hardware > acceleration under the hood (which, in turn, is controlled by a few > variables and depends on whether your hardware works nice with libre > software/current Mesa). I've searched for similar reports and found none specific to GNOME Console (kgx), although this one about the whole Xorg server crashing looks similar [0]. One of the commenter there also mentions the problem vanishing after upgrading their memory to 32 GiB, so perhaps it's related to something being OOM'd ? Anyway, if you can reproduce this, I think the best place to report the issue would be upstream on that mesa tracker: they are more likely to figure out the actual problem and come up with a fix. [0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/7626 --=20 Thanks, Maxim
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It might well be Konsol in some language =E2=80=93 it's Console in English.= As for kgx/Mesa bugs, there might be some due to GTK using hardware acceleration under the hood (which, in turn, is controlled by a few variables and depends on whether your hardware works nice with libre software/current Mesa). Cheers
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I=E2=80=99m okay closing = this bug report unless there is some more information from anyone else = who have time to debug the kgx/Mesa issue further. /Simon > 22 okt. 2024 kl. 08:56 skrev Maxim Cournoyer = <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>: >=20 > Hi Simon, >=20 > Simon Josefsson <simon@HIDDEN <mailto:simon@HIDDEN>> = writes: >=20 >>> 21 juni 2024 kl. 06:32 skrev Liliana Marie Prikler = <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN>: >>>=20 >>> =EF=BB=BFAm Freitag, dem 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon = Josefsson: >>>> Hi. >>>>=20 >>>> GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I = had >>>> open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...). I've now seen this >>>> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't >>>> know how to trigger it. I recall that it happened when I used the >>>> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow. >>>>=20 >>>> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system >>>> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P). >>>> Syslog has these two crashes: >>> =E2=80=A6 and a fairly normal GPU? >>=20 >> Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no overclocking). I am = using Dasharo system firmware if that makes a difference. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99ve used this system extensively and think some recent = update may have introduced it as I started seeing it only recently. Hard = to tell though since it only happened after 4+ hours of interactive work = each time. >>=20 >>> The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa. Since = GNOME >>> is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a = lot >>> of places. You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to >>> something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance. >>> Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU = rendering. >>=20 >> Ah this makes sense. I will try and see if I notice it again. It = hasn=E2=80=99t happened for any other application. >=20 > Are you still having problems with GNOME Console (you do mean = 'Console', > the default console application in GNOME (the one whose executable is > 'kgx') ?) >=20 > --=20 > Thanks, > Maxim --Apple-Mail=_56F4C47C-E65F-4859-93C8-CA25BC682E50 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I saw the = problem a couple of more times, but I have switched away from kgx (which = I think is called Konsol not Console?) to the old Terminal app and = haven=E2=80=99t had any issues since. I=E2=80=99m okay closing = this bug report unless there is some more information from anyone else = who have time to debug the kgx/Mesa issue = further.<div><br></div><div>/Simon<br = id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div>22 okt. 2024 kl. 08:56 skrev Maxim Cournoyer = <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">Hi Simon,</span><br style=3D"caret-color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Simon = Josefsson <</span><a href=3D"mailto:simon@HIDDEN" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">simon@HIDDEN</a><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">> writes:</span><br style=3D"caret-color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><blockquote type=3D"cite">21 juni 2024 kl. 06:32 = skrev Liliana Marie Prikler = <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN>:<br><br>=EF=BB=BFAm Freitag, dem = 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:<br><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Hi.<br><br>GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down = all 10+ windows I had<br>open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...). = I've now seen this<br>twice, so I suppose it counts as = reproducible, even though I don't<br>know how to trigger it. I = recall that it happened when I used the<br>mouse to maybe resize windows = or switch workspace somehow.<br><br>This is guix = v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system<br>configuration = [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P).<br>Syslog has these = two crashes:<br></blockquote>=E2=80=A6 and a fairly normal = GPU?<br></blockquote><br>Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no = overclocking). I am using Dasharo system firmware if that makes a = difference.<br><br>I=E2=80=99ve used this system extensively and think = some recent update may have introduced it as I started seeing it only = recently. Hard to tell though since it only happened after 4+ hours of = interactive work each time.<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">The crash = indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa. Since GNOME<br>is = increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a = lot<br>of places. You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment = variable to<br>something less buggy, potentially at the cost of = performance.<br>Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct = CPU rendering.<br></blockquote><br>Ah this makes sense. I will try and = see if I notice it again. It hasn=E2=80=99t happened for any other = application.<br></blockquote><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Are you = still having problems with GNOME Console (you do mean = 'Console',</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;">the default console = application in GNOME (the one whose executable is</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">'kgx') ?)</span><br style=3D"caret-color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">--<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">Thanks,</span><br style=3D"caret-color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline = !important;">Maxim</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_56F4C47C-E65F-4859-93C8-CA25BC682E50--
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I've now seen this >>> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't >>> know how to trigger it. I recall that it happened when I used the >>> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow. >>>=20 >>> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system >>> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P). >>> Syslog has these two crashes: >> =E2=80=A6 and a fairly normal GPU? > > Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no overclocking). I am using Da= sharo system firmware if that makes a difference. > > I=E2=80=99ve used this system extensively and think some recent update ma= y have introduced it as I started seeing it only recently. Hard to tell tho= ugh since it only happened after 4+ hours of interactive work each time. > >> The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa. Since GNOME >> is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot >> of places. You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to >> something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance. >> Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering. > > Ah this makes sense. I will try and see if I notice it again. It hasn=E2= =80=99t happened for any other application. Are you still having problems with GNOME Console (you do mean 'Console', the default console application in GNOME (the one whose executable is 'kgx') ?) --=20 Thanks, Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN
:bug#71556
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I've now seen this >> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't >> know how to trigger it. I recall that it happened when I used the >> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow. >>=20 >> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system >> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P). >> Syslog has these two crashes: > =E2=80=A6 and a fairly normal GPU? Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no overclocking). I am using Dasha= ro system firmware if that makes a difference. I=E2=80=99ve used this system extensively and think some recent update may h= ave introduced it as I started seeing it only recently. Hard to tell though s= ince it only happened after 4+ hours of interactive work each time. > The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa. Since GNOME > is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot > of places. You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to > something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance. > Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering. Ah this makes sense. I will try and see if I notice it again. It hasn=E2=80=99= t happened for any other application. /Simon=
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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a6fcf428c02sm38297766b.6.2024.06.20.21.32.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Jun 2024 21:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7b837863a002e3ac2ec06f134eb12dfb7f9ecdc8.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: GNOME Konsol crashes From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN> To: Simon Josefsson <simon@HIDDEN>, 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:32:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871q4zwkjc.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <871q4zwkjc.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.48.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71556 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Am Freitag, dem 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson: > Hi. >=20 > GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had > open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...).=C2=A0 I've now seen this > twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't > know how to trigger it.=C2=A0 I recall that it happened when I used the > mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow. >=20 > This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system > configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P). > Syslog has these two crashes: =E2=80=A6 and a fairly normal GPU? The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa. Since GNOME is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot of places. You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance.=20 Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering. Cheers
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GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...). I've now seen this twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't know how to trigger it. I recall that it happened when I used the mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow. This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P). Syslog has these two crashes: Jun 12 17:53:49 localhost vmunix: [244491.668326] .kgx-real[2161]: segfault at 29 ip 00007fd22dc31d6d sp 00007ffed19f0630 error 6 in crocus_dri.so[7fd22da94000+165b000] likely on CPU 10 (core 20, socket 0) Jun 12 17:53:49 localhost vmunix: [244491.668348] Code: c0 75 42 48 8b 93 08 1a 00 00 48 8d 8b 08 1a 00 00 49 8d 44 24 08 66 48 0f 6e c9 66 48 0f 6e c2 66 0f 6c c1 41 0f 11 44 24 08 <48> 89 42 08 48 89 83 08 1a 00 00 f0 83 6d 00 01 75 31 5b 5d 41 5c Jun 13 20:45:36 localhost vmunix: [96351.516581] .kgx-real[2371]: segfault at 8 ip 00007f34fc831d6d sp 00007ffe27647ae0 error 6 in crocus_dri.so[7f34fc694000+165b000] likely on CPU 30 (core 46, socket 0) Jun 13 20:45:36 localhost vmunix: [96351.516595] Code: c0 75 42 48 8b 93 08 1a 00 00 48 8d 8b 08 1a 00 00 49 8d 44 24 08 66 48 0f 6e c9 66 48 0f 6e c2 66 0f 6c c1 41 0f 11 44 24 08 <48> 89 42 08 48 89 83 08 1a 00 00 f0 83 6d 00 01 75 31 5b 5d 41 5c Anyone else seeing this? I know it is hard to debug based on this information... /Simon [1] https://gitlab.com/jas/sjd-cosmos/-/blob/master/yeti.sjd.se/config.scm --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIoEARYIADIWIQSjzJyHC50xCrrUzy9RcisI/kdFogUCZmxxBxQcc2ltb25Aam9z ZWZzc29uLm9yZwAKCRBRcisI/kdFokUuAP4hYsN3wUqjf6JZfUnGfDkweBHGekTu WDDeO0P6z/zGiwEAprMiu8b7fPm83O6IRvFZGWsks8Lmb2nOLkBm3SZ6kQk= =vcU+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--
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