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>> I added:
>> (coding . utf-8)
>> to the change-log-mode section in the Emacs .dir-locals.el file, then did
>>
>> ./src/emacs -Q lisp/ChangeLog.1
>>
>> The file was opened in undecided-unix. I was hoping to be able to
>> remove the "coding: utf-8" that many of the Emacs ChangeLog files
>> (but not that particular example) have.
> Independently of the potential bug, why is it a good idea to have such
> a setting in the Emacs tree? There are some files for which this will
> do the wrong thing.
FWIW, I think such a setting should be provided for all Emacs files
rather than just for change-log-mode ones. This would mean "in the
absence of a coding tag in the file, use utf-8", which seems like it
can only be better than the current "in the absence of a coding tag in
the file, use whatever the user happens to prefer".
Stefan
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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I wasn't talking about ChangeLog files. Unless I misunderstand, your
> addition will be in effect with any file in the tree.
I wrote:
> I added:
>
> (coding . utf-8)
>
> to the change-log-mode section in the Emacs .dir-locals.el file
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So like the settings for bug-reference-url-format etc, it would only
apply to ChangeLog files.
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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Independently of the potential bug, why is it a good idea to have such
> a setting in the Emacs tree? There are some files for which this will
> do the wrong thing.
It will?
There are 59 ChangeLog* files in the Emacs tree.
50 have a coding: cookie.
All but one of those (an old Gnus ChangeLog) use utf-8.
I assume people just forget to add it to the other 9.
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Package: emacs
I added:
(coding . utf-8)
to the change-log-mode section in the Emacs .dir-locals.el file, then did
./src/emacs -Q lisp/ChangeLog.1
The file was opened in undecided-unix. I was hoping to be able to
remove the "coding: utf-8" that many of the Emacs ChangeLog files
(but not that particular example) have.
It seems `find-auto-coding' handles the coding: cookie independently
of the local-variables mechanism. It would be nice if it would check
for a directory-local coding if no file-local setting is found.
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