Received: (at 71822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2025 12:00:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 15 08:00:56 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ttQCG-00089V-3x for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 08:00:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ttQCD-00088u-5d for 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 08:00:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ttQC6-0004Ts-0k; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 08:00:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=GhY+/LYeOgHDd80sujJDXh9/P0IaUuqHDwVvmXUETSU=; b=poAB4tfaIjpV+7onx1WD fHpc9SzG8UpwNWvWYdTgmU2K3wnL3nCyk2COZ3dPESRjNV8uZ+spfieUNaGqy/L9ZTI4ycVoxXTta O/QA9TKZjYdhxJXEuS0NyUKS/pUrqzwW6ScvhssKV80cxz+5i68gcP0LoTdi/Ao+Uyd9iztUU+gqD E29yJ44aoko8GkH4ag5flLm7iKr1sT5f7JXjrT5En5i8bEkVM50n8ZqB91eGflg1t7wr4V9ncuCos 7BdZnRcOHcRF0wuMjKWSgZktDw3hOEZebfSD+64QX5CD59tPmAEb1wHR9oNx6L2hD4Mpvswna+K9m YZmPpgIcZ04cgQ==; Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 14:00:43 +0200 Message-Id: <86tt7uwljo.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <85v7sfxke4.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> (message from Kazuhiro Ito on Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:38:59 +0900) Subject: Re: bug#71822: Feature request: fullwidth to halfwidth References: <87zfr5307k.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <864j9d41v4.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y16nvzvo.7.fsf@HIDDEN> <86wmm7gfys.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0cezvn2.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <85sewusr38.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <87r0ce5yc3.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a5a3o94u.fsf@HIDDEN> <85jz96o2yi.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <861pvemdck.fsf@HIDDEN> <85v7sfxke4.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:38:59 +0900 > From: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> > Cc: jidanni@HIDDEN, 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > I eventually decided to write new commands, because the above > > > > japanese-* commands are too specific to the Japanese users: for > > > > example, they convert kana characters as well. > > > > > > > > So there are now new commands fullwidth-region, fullwidth-word, > > > > halfwidth-region, and halfwidth-word, which will be in Emacs 31 when > > > > it is released. > > > > > > New functions don't seem to handle SPACE (U+0020, ' ') and IDEOGRAPHIC > > > SPACE (U+3000, '$B!!(B'). U+3000 is used as fullwidth space in CJK > > > languages. > > > > That's because I didn't know people will want to convert those as part > > of this feature, and so didn't include them in the translation table. > > > > Is it true that most/all people who type fullwidth characters will > > also type U+3000 instead of an ASCII SPC character? If so, I will add > > them to the translation table; it's easy. But if some users would > > like to leave SPC alone, maybe we should have some optional behavior > > or something. > > Though I rarely type fullwidth ASCII characters, most Japanese input > methods enable user to input U+3000 via simply typing SPC. So, U+3000 > is often used as alternate of ASCII SPACE. > > U+3000 may be used as an indent at the beginning of Japanese > paragraphs. In this case, U+3000 should be kept, but I doubt we use > halfwidth-* functions for such style Japanese text. > > IMO, I expected halfwidth-* functions to convert U+3000 to SPACE as > japanese-hankaku did. But other Japanese said both behaviors whould > be in demand. I don't know about other languages. OK, for now I added the conversion of SPC to IDEOGRAPHIC SPACE. Let's see if people complain. Thanks.'
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 71822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 22:39:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 11 18:39:18 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ts8Fp-0007IJ-S2 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:39:18 -0400 Received: from mta-snd-e05.auone-net.jp ([111.86.247.5]:13761) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <kzhr@HIDDEN>) id 1ts8Fi-0007I0-IN for 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:39:15 -0400 Received: from kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp by mta-snd-e05.auone-net.jp with ESMTP id <20250311223906393.ZZPF.42772.kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp@HIDDEN>; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:39:06 +0900 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:38:59 +0900 Message-ID: <85v7sfxke4.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> From: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71822: Feature request: fullwidth to halfwidth In-Reply-To: <861pvemdck.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87zfr5307k.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <864j9d41v4.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y16nvzvo.7.fsf@HIDDEN> <86wmm7gfys.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0cezvn2.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <85sewusr38.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <87r0ce5yc3.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a5a3o94u.fsf@HIDDEN> <85jz96o2yi.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <861pvemdck.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=d1.dion.ne.jp; s=default-1; t=1741732746; bh=6yYFHmf83LxdeKqNj5YAanQZ13HMv0ga/My5QcFZurs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=ot7yUsDySDDSrPiLtOm5DgZokhPL77uqvKyI9+H4IWvpRydoY43+pN60BtZ60PTZliPHiXW5 19j+MGtwnLfgiQoQgG9v5gKtHXGr0mkd0P3MPQn8dENc3eRna1+gaM0POM2eel4FtRAZ0gSeZ2 SVYdIPe5bVjIqVvBc9QZ83g9o18eieZTG09of9pBQnV00fJ0YmdsX04Tsgc6ZWs1InvYU6sImU dBP55x4XEZggc9Oq9pr1mIXo+xU0gnTZ/tJqQQRfA5XEsvPcX62YL4SVAQbd1Rhnqz/g4xxdya 0Kj6Si9vKh42QwrrRrd5FC6CmEh5StGk7hd1lmvVoPH1AeHg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > > I eventually decided to write new commands, because the above > > > japanese-* commands are too specific to the Japanese users: for > > > example, they convert kana characters as well. > > > > > > So there are now new commands fullwidth-region, fullwidth-word, > > > halfwidth-region, and halfwidth-word, which will be in Emacs 31 when > > > it is released. > > > > New functions don't seem to handle SPACE (U+0020, ' ') and IDEOGRAPHIC > > SPACE (U+3000, '$B!!(B'). U+3000 is used as fullwidth space in CJK > > languages. > > That's because I didn't know people will want to convert those as part > of this feature, and so didn't include them in the translation table. > > Is it true that most/all people who type fullwidth characters will > also type U+3000 instead of an ASCII SPC character? If so, I will add > them to the translation table; it's easy. But if some users would > like to leave SPC alone, maybe we should have some optional behavior > or something. Though I rarely type fullwidth ASCII characters, most Japanese input methods enable user to input U+3000 via simply typing SPC. So, U+3000 is often used as alternate of ASCII SPACE. U+3000 may be used as an indent at the beginning of Japanese paragraphs. In this case, U+3000 should be kept, but I doubt we use halfwidth-* functions for such style Japanese text. IMO, I expected halfwidth-* functions to convert U+3000 to SPACE as japanese-hankaku did. But other Japanese said both behaviors whould be in demand. I don't know about other languages. -- Kazuhiro Ito
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 71822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2025 10:01:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 09 06:01:42 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1trDTZ-00067k-Gf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 06:01:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50632) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1trDTW-00067S-VZ for 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 06:01:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1trDTC-00020H-S2; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 06:01:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=lyy7Kfbk+I+f3j1AiBdh72pXUKoL5vRlOK3dCQkj2Ds=; b=USDrbV41h2w5CQhonPtN mdunwsV/IBOyUgCM0Rvj2L4DXe4l0DyAdaSz6L0zUoRJ43ApElSay0ut0J1fasenackT9POTYGmog M37U1aBb1UcJZ7eUeo4Tr7/PQg91ACO00BVzEBuCTj6+veDWj5ERKazx8bME45BktZQ60WpU2pZGl DNTVRyL1tVkv/uRHmA1iN///4UmWTJV6MBPWd0XpaF5TT3d+GiGO3CA5FezBQy3FuJDAOwLVJFIG9 WaZHPlPYEK8z+SY431U5fl9cxvypqvczTvuboe8d6GUpnrALIYcQXMcEu8ue48uZmdprzsTCZcLs3 ZXOusGIlM3ZpKg==; Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 12:01:11 +0200 Message-Id: <86zfhufrq0.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: kzhr@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <861pvemdck.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 03 Mar 2025 15:51:39 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#71822: Feature request: fullwidth to halfwidth References: <87zfr5307k.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <864j9d41v4.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y16nvzvo.7.fsf@HIDDEN> <86wmm7gfys.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0cezvn2.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <85sewusr38.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <87r0ce5yc3.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a5a3o94u.fsf@HIDDEN> <85jz96o2yi.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <861pvemdck.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: jidanni@HIDDEN, 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@HIDDEN > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 15:51:39 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 18:53:09 +0900 > > From: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> > > Cc: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>, > > 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > I eventually decided to write new commands, because the above > > > japanese-* commands are too specific to the Japanese users: for > > > example, they convert kana characters as well. > > > > > > So there are now new commands fullwidth-region, fullwidth-word, > > > halfwidth-region, and halfwidth-word, which will be in Emacs 31 when > > > it is released. > > > > New functions don't seem to handle SPACE (U+0020, ' ') and IDEOGRAPHIC > > SPACE (U+3000, '$B!!(B'). U+3000 is used as fullwidth space in CJK > > languages. > > That's because I didn't know people will want to convert those as part > of this feature, and so didn't include them in the translation table. > > Is it true that most/all people who type fullwidth characters will > also type U+3000 instead of an ASCII SPC character? If so, I will add > them to the translation table; it's easy. But if some users would > like to leave SPC alone, maybe we should have some optional behavior > or something. Ping! Kazuhiro, could you please answer my questions above?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 71822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2025 13:52:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 03 08:52:27 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46421 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tp6Da-0004KI-RB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2025 08:52:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tp6DX-0004Jo-1z for 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2025 08:52:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tp6DQ-0003j8-G3; Mon, 03 Mar 2025 08:52:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=48DN5SAzH4vQztIkWI1jOMdqNE3FNNnALmOhlMXBY7k=; b=sFb6C18T3FpS8KsgU9te Vc1/Nf33PhObvgdmQf0EjvBYBQf3FMghVYnA3juHpjXVAZBvicIDEJaz5T/0sppkJhQqipxxyzprr H2IagVEEg1cRV3C3xbS938Voq/gc0afufjxtFrosLjMMU500jQhWMhVZPxNJYDlwM1vsH+vxHpBa2 u0lD3HRQnYaUqux3lPrgpAR3jdNX2QuQrbcq1jBqaGpdaUeo2SvsJFKPb5Y3zIyXqmFUn6Qn+Hv+J ii3tvhmELiXdTnzAlMmSJ2zRoIoRgailulvxa4SOBrO9jEhKRyqZ4HXRVcabvLIvWxJOTRc+OJf46 nh5Eej8lkoHMsA==; Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 15:51:39 +0200 Message-Id: <861pvemdck.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <85jz96o2yi.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> (message from Kazuhiro Ito on Mon, 03 Mar 2025 18:53:09 +0900) Subject: Re: bug#71822: Feature request: fullwidth to halfwidth References: <87zfr5307k.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <864j9d41v4.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y16nvzvo.7.fsf@HIDDEN> <86wmm7gfys.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0cezvn2.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <85sewusr38.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <87r0ce5yc3.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a5a3o94u.fsf@HIDDEN> <85jz96o2yi.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 18:53:09 +0900 > From: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> > Cc: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>, > 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > I eventually decided to write new commands, because the above > > japanese-* commands are too specific to the Japanese users: for > > example, they convert kana characters as well. > > > > So there are now new commands fullwidth-region, fullwidth-word, > > halfwidth-region, and halfwidth-word, which will be in Emacs 31 when > > it is released. > > New functions don't seem to handle SPACE (U+0020, ' ') and IDEOGRAPHIC > SPACE (U+3000, '$B!!(B'). U+3000 is used as fullwidth space in CJK > languages. That's because I didn't know people will want to convert those as part of this feature, and so didn't include them in the translation table. Is it true that most/all people who type fullwidth characters will also type U+3000 instead of an ASCII SPC character? If so, I will add them to the translation table; it's easy. But if some users would like to leave SPC alone, maybe we should have some optional behavior or something. Thanks.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 71822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2025 13:29:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 02 08:29:07 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55852 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tojNS-0001Wp-JJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 08:29:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tojNQ-0001Vt-0R for 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 08:29:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tojNG-000595-TN; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 08:28:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=YOhUmXtmypYA45yyPo9MajLTXmzv0dSYpZNReYA8Ces=; b=OSwsafhMcLPJ zZ5WGCGxh+Y2jVb1gWCy14gi1tlfPmt82jvV2c6BjnXSNOvDMLdI4i0QJ/rnTkX8E7IvQGmq1I7mQ 3quHXjpf7MU7vewW6jUSeQ9+6i7PC4PhleS60j+EIYwWbfOHfaegAAdkw4qVuEArktsetFg1XM+84 EYZRW8mTTo/pcD1ObGUODz3icQewei+NB1yS0C9lX74NAF4jP1gFKEvAAP78iK0wuY0946PD3cO/F sw7GBQjMBxLIhtTRPgaZstuZUq+Z5qtANVkVs+2YMskCh+Z2Qad8ErvJ+hh6ph/Pc+JzMcOv5p1YI 7zbh6zarYo3tfHBC+zGd5A==; Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 15:28:39 +0200 Message-Id: <868qpno92w.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: stefankangas@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <86mse5qfyf.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:04:56 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#71822: Feature request: fullwidth to halfwidth References: <87zfr5307k.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <864j9d41v4.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y16nvzvo.7.fsf@HIDDEN> <86wmm7gfys.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0cezvn2.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <85sewusr38.wl--xmue@HIDDEN> <87r0ce5yc3.3.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmmSsVKJisOXO0+phG8ntLrTjHapn8QSsUpRu41F4h+ZXA@HIDDEN> <86mse5qfyf.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: kzhr@HIDDEN, jidanni@HIDDEN, 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, kzhr@HIDDEN, jidanni@HIDDEN > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:04:56 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> > > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 17:51:56 -0800 > > Cc: Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes: > > > > > Indeed, > > > japanese-hankaku-region > > > japanese-zenkaku-region > > > work. So maybe they should > > > be available as > > > halfwidth-woed > > > halfwidth-region > > > fullwidth-word > > > fullwidth-region etc. > > > in emacs -Q. > > > > So we have these commands, and the idea is to give them these new names. > > I don't see a huge demand for it, so I'm inclined towards closing this > > as a wontfix. > > Please don't, I still hope I will find time to do some of that. Now done.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
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So maybe they should > be available as > halfwidth-woed > halfwidth-region > fullwidth-word > fullwidth-region etc. > in emacs -Q. So we have these commands, and the idea is to give them these new names. I don't see a huge demand for it, so I'm inclined towards closing this as a wontfix.
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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN>, 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) All I am ever concerned with is just ASCII. All I know is if it hits a Chinese character, it should just leave it untouched, no matter if converting to or converting from. On 2024-07-01 10:13, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Indeed, >> japanese-hankaku-region >> japanese-zenkaku-region >> work. So maybe they should >> be available as >> halfwidth-woed >> halfwidth-region >> fullwidth-word >> fullwidth-region etc. >> in emacs -Q. > > Do they work for the full set of Chinese characters? > > I'm asking because Kazuhiro Ito <kzhr@HIDDEN> writes: > >> [...] these functions don't support all characters because they are >> for traditional Japanese character set.
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So maybe they should be available as halfwidth-woed halfwidth-region fullwidth-word fullwidth-region etc. in emacs -Q.
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: EZ> You are saying that the keyboard and/or the input method you are using EZ> to type Chinese support characters such as 她證號為, but don't support EZ> typing wide digits like ０９８, is that the problem? No. It's the difference between needing to type ０９８７６５４３２１ＢＡ i.e., C-\ ;; toggle-input-method v 0 v ;; self-insert-command 9 v ;; self-insert-command 8 v ;; self-insert-command 7 v ;; self-insert-command 6 v ;; self-insert-command 5 v ;; self-insert-command 4 v ;; self-insert-command 3 v ;; self-insert-command 2 v ;; self-insert-command 1 v ;; self-insert-command B ;; self-insert-command v A ;; self-insert-command vs. just M-<one character>. It's just like to turn this sentence into upper case, one needs to type each letter again, holding the shift button, because upcase-region hasn't been invented yet.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
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Her ID number is 0987654321BA. I rewrite the first part in Chinese, 2. 她證號為 0987654321BA 。 But to get it into its final state, 3. 她證號為０９８... I need to retype each and every number and letter "all over again" (but in fullwidth), because there is no M-<something> command to change it for me. As you see I have given up halfway.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#71822; Package emacs.
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71822 Cc: 71822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Have commands that can change wide to narrow, >> with the same ease as M-l. >> E.g., change ２０９Ｍ into 209M. >> and another command to do the opposite. >> OK, I guess they are called fullwidth and halfwidth. EZ> When would such commands be useful? We use them all the time in Chinese, 請由209M號門 Ugly 請由２０９Ｍ號門 Pretty EZ> These characters are deliberately EZ> not the same, and not just different shapes of the same letters EZ> (unlike upper-case and lower-case letters). $ unicode ２０９Ｍ|grep Deco Decomposition: <wide> 0032 Decomposition: <wide> 0030 Decomposition: <wide> 0039 Decomposition: <wide> 004D
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Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:06:55 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: Feature request: fullwidth to halfwidth Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:06:55 +0800 Message-ID: <87zfr5307k.3.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.223.164; envelope-from=jidanni@HIDDEN; helo=shrimp.cherry.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -4 X-Spam_score: -0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) M-l runs the command downcase-word. That's great. But here's a feature request: Have commands that can change wide to narrow, with the same ease as M-l. E.g., change ２０９Ｍ into 209M. and another command to do the opposite. OK, I guess they are called fullwidth and halfwidth.
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