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tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3

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From: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
To: bug-auctex <at> gnu.org
Subject: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:38:34 +0900

Dear maintainers of auctex,

The current commit of auctex  seemed to have packed tex-site.el.in 
instead of tex-site.el, which makes auctex unusable. I look forward to a 
quick fix.

Best regards,

Yizhen

Message #8 received at 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Cc: 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 16:52:24 +0200

WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:

> The current commit of auctex  seemed to have packed tex-site.el.in
> instead of tex-site.el, which makes auctex unusable. I look forward to
> a quick fix.

I presume you've downloaded the 13.3 tarball, right?  You still have to
install the package once you unpack it.  This is from the INSTALL file
distributed in the tarball:

   The remainder of this section is about installing AUCTeX from a
  release tarball or from a checkout of the AUCTeX repository.

     Installing AUCTeX should be simple: merely ‘./configure’, ‘make’, and
  ‘make install’ for a standard site-wide installation (most other
  installations can be done by specifying a ‘--prefix=...’ option).

OTOH, we recommend to install AUCTeX from ELPA where possible.  Again,
from the README:

  The modern and strongly recommended way of installing AUCTeX is by using
  the Emacs package manager integrated in Emacs 24 and greater (ELPA).
  Simply do ‘M-x list-packages <RET>’, mark the auctex package for
  installation with ‘i’, and hit ‘x’ to execute the installation
  procedure.  That's all.

I don't see a bug here.

Best, Arash

Message #11 received at 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
To: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Cc: 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 14:54:57 +0900

Hi WANG,

>>>>> WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:
> Dear maintainers of auctex,
> The current commit of auctex  seemed to have packed tex-site.el.in
> instead of tex-site.el, which makes auctex unusable. I look forward to
> a quick fix.

This isn't a bug; tex-site.el is generated from tex-site.el.in under
standard installation process, namely configure&make. Follow the
instruction included in the distribution or put at
https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Installation.html

Maybe a simpler solution is to use ELPA release. That's described in the
above document, too.

Regards,
Ikumi Keita
#StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine
#Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW

Message #14 received at 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
To: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Cc: 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:47:18 +0900

Hi Yizhen,

>>>>> WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:
> Sorry for the inconvenience. I was using straight.el to install
> auctex,

If I understand correctly, straight.el uses ELPA package for AUCTeX.
Thus I expect you already have tex-site.el locally.
1. Is it sure that you lack tex-site.el? I'm not a straght.el user, but
   if it installs ELPA packages in standard place, you will find it as
   ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-X.Y.Z/tex-site.el
   , where X, Y and Z are the version number.
2. If you cannot find tex-site.el where straight.el stores the package
   contents, it means that your installation of AUCTeX is broken. I
   recommend to delete the broken installation of AUCTeX and to
   re-install it again. (I don't know how to do that in standard way of
   straight.el.)
3. If that doesn't help yet, then I suspect that your straight.el isn't
   working correctly. Maybe re-installing straight.el itself helps.

> and as I navigated to the repository directory, there was actually no
> tex-site.el there.

Yes, that's normal; tex-site.el is generated on the ELPA server and
bundled into the distribution files when a new AUCTeX ELPA release is
out.

...I realized that staright.el manifests itself as[2]
,----
| Packages are cloned as Git (or other) repositories, not as opaque tarballs.
`----
Then it really doesn't install tex-site.el?
...Hmm, straight.el needs special treatment for AUCTeX like this[3]
actually?

[1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git
[2] https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el?tab=readme-ov-file
[3] https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el/issues/800

Regards,
Ikumi Keita
#StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine
#Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW

Message #17 received at 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
To: Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
Cc: 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 18:09:58 +0900

Hi Keita,

Sorry for the inconvenience. I was using straight.el to install auctex, 
and as I navigated to the repository directory, there was actually no 
tex-site.el there. Maybe it is a problem of the straight packaging? I 
will try to trace it further.

Best regards,

Yizhen

On 2024-07-03 14:54, Ikumi Keita wrote:
> Hi WANG,
>
>>>>>> WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:
>> Dear maintainers of auctex,
>> The current commit of auctex  seemed to have packed tex-site.el.in
>> instead of tex-site.el, which makes auctex unusable. I look forward to
>> a quick fix.
> This isn't a bug; tex-site.el is generated from tex-site.el.in under
> standard installation process, namely configure&make. Follow the
> instruction included in the distribution or put at
> https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Installation.html
>
> Maybe a simpler solution is to use ELPA release. That's described in the
> above document, too.
>
> Regards,
> Ikumi Keita
> #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine
> #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW

Message #20 received at 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
Cc: 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:44:02 +0200

Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp> writes:

>>>>>> WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:
>> Sorry for the inconvenience. I was using straight.el to install
>> auctex,
>
> If I understand correctly, straight.el uses ELPA package for AUCTeX.
> Thus I expect you already have tex-site.el locally.
> 1. Is it sure that you lack tex-site.el? I'm not a straght.el user, but
>    if it installs ELPA packages in standard place, you will find it as
>    ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-X.Y.Z/tex-site.el
>    , where X, Y and Z are the version number.
> 2. If you cannot find tex-site.el where straight.el stores the package
>    contents, it means that your installation of AUCTeX is broken. I
>    recommend to delete the broken installation of AUCTeX and to
>    re-install it again. (I don't know how to do that in standard way of
>    straight.el.)
> 3. If that doesn't help yet, then I suspect that your straight.el isn't
>    working correctly. Maybe re-installing straight.el itself helps.
>
>> and as I navigated to the repository directory, there was actually no
>> tex-site.el there.
>
> Yes, that's normal; tex-site.el is generated on the ELPA server and
> bundled into the distribution files when a new AUCTeX ELPA release is
> out.
>
> ...I realized that staright.el manifests itself as[2]
> ,----
> | Packages are cloned as Git (or other) repositories, not as opaque tarballs.
> `----
> Then it really doesn't install tex-site.el?
> ...Hmm, straight.el needs special treatment for AUCTeX like this[3]
> actually?
>
> [1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git
> [2] https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el?tab=readme-ov-file
> [3] https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el/issues/800

Any update on this?  I think the issue is how to teach straight.el to
deal with AUCTeX, and not the way around.  Or am I missing something?

Best, Arash

Message #23 received at 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
To: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>, Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
Cc: 71902 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:01:47 +0900

After the update of auctex on elpa on July 12, this seemed fixed.

Best regards,

Yizhen

On 2024-07-12 17:44, Arash Esbati wrote:
> Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp> writes:
>
>>>>>>> WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:
>>> Sorry for the inconvenience. I was using straight.el to install
>>> auctex,
>> If I understand correctly, straight.el uses ELPA package for AUCTeX.
>> Thus I expect you already have tex-site.el locally.
>> 1. Is it sure that you lack tex-site.el? I'm not a straght.el user, but
>>     if it installs ELPA packages in standard place, you will find it as
>>     ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-X.Y.Z/tex-site.el
>>     , where X, Y and Z are the version number.
>> 2. If you cannot find tex-site.el where straight.el stores the package
>>     contents, it means that your installation of AUCTeX is broken. I
>>     recommend to delete the broken installation of AUCTeX and to
>>     re-install it again. (I don't know how to do that in standard way of
>>     straight.el.)
>> 3. If that doesn't help yet, then I suspect that your straight.el isn't
>>     working correctly. Maybe re-installing straight.el itself helps.
>>
>>> and as I navigated to the repository directory, there was actually no
>>> tex-site.el there.
>> Yes, that's normal; tex-site.el is generated on the ELPA server and
>> bundled into the distribution files when a new AUCTeX ELPA release is
>> out.
>>
>> ...I realized that staright.el manifests itself as[2]
>> ,----
>> | Packages are cloned as Git (or other) repositories, not as opaque tarballs.
>> `----
>> Then it really doesn't install tex-site.el?
>> ...Hmm, straight.el needs special treatment for AUCTeX like this[3]
>> actually?
>>
>> [1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git
>> [2] https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el?tab=readme-ov-file
>> [3] https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el/issues/800
> Any update on this?  I think the issue is how to teach straight.el to
> deal with AUCTeX, and not the way around.  Or am I missing something?
>
> Best, Arash

Message #28 received at 71902-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Cc: 71902-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
Subject: Re: bug#71902: tex-site.el is not included in auctex 13.3
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:02:12 +0200

WANG Yizhen <wangyz <at> iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:

> After the update of auctex on elpa on July 12, this seemed fixed.

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm closing this report.

Best, Arash

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