GNU bug report logs - #72013
The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo correctly

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From: the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo correctly
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 13:04:36 +0000

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

If i write 'eshell/sudo kill <any argument> <any pid>' it just wont do anything.
It works only if i explicitly write 'eshell/kill' instead of just 'kill':

'eshell/sudo eshell/kill <any argument> <any pid>'

I don't understand this behavior, because there is only one
implementation of kill that is available on eshell anyway.

Reproduction:

1. emacs -Q
2. M-x eshell
3. (require 'em-tramp)
4. sleep 10000 &
5. eshell/sudo kill -STOP <pid of the process>

The process still will be in a sleep instead of being stopped.

6. eshell/sudo eshell/kill -STOP <pid of the process>

Now the process is stopped.

In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-04-23 built on archlinux
Repository revision: 326437e6c8a6497b1a38d002b1d28e74678a07aa
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12401000
System Description: Arch Linux

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CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/homebrew/opt/jpeg/include
LDFLAGS=-L/opt/homebrew/opt/jpeg/lib'

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Message #8 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>, 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 10:02:56 -0700

On 7/9/2024 6:04 AM, the_wurfkreuz via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the 
Swiss army knife of text editors wrote:
> If i write 'eshell/sudo kill <any argument> <any pid>' it just wont do 
> anything.
> It works only if i explicitly write 'eshell/kill' instead of just 'kill':
> 
> 'eshell/sudo eshell/kill <any argument> <any pid>'
> 
> I don't understand this behavior, because there is only one
> implementation of kill that is available on eshell anyway.
> 
> Reproduction:
> 
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. M-x eshell
> 3. (require 'em-tramp)
> 4. sleep 10000 &
> 5. eshell/sudo kill -STOP <pid of the process>

This works for me. Running "M-x list-processes" shows that the sleep 
process is indeed stopped. (I also traced both 'eshell/sudo' and 
'eshell/kill' and they're being called correctly.)

I'm testing on commit a952ca5461c590fe194a2f96622603d6ccaebb47, so maybe 
you need to update your Emacs build? The revision you're on appears to 
be from April.

Message #11 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:08:57 -0700

(Re-adding the bug tracker address. The tracker requires using Reply
All to keep messages going to the list.)

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:38 AM the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me> wrote:
> Sorry, i was exhausted when i was rechecking everything before submitting the bug report and made a slip up. In reality the problem is with processes owned by root. I was trying to send signal to a docker daemon.

Ah ha. This is really an issue that 'eshell/kill' can't kill "remote"
processes. What you *want* to happen is for Eshell to kill the process
with some PID over the Tramp "sudo" connection, which makes it a
"remote" process. That'll fail for a couple reasons: 1) Eshell just
passes the PID to 'signal-process', and that PID will be interpreted
according to your local host+user, 2) Tramp doesn't support
'signal-process' in the first place, as far as I know (but it does
support things like 'delete-process').

> Also, it looks like it doesn't work even when i write 'eshell/kill' instead of 'kill'. The main point is that i can use the 'kill' command only with posix sudo when it comes to processes owned by root. Using it with eshell/sudo doesn't work:

/usr/bin/sudo works here because it doesn't call eshell/kill, it calls
/usr/bin/kill. eshell/sudo would also work if you call /usr/bin/kill.
You could spell the full path like that, or use "*kill", which ignores
the Eshell built-in version.

Your scenario is actually the *less* dangerous one though: since a
Tramp sudo connection is still (usually) on localhost, the PIDs are
all the same; all that'll happen is that "kill" fails sometimes. But
if you were connected over SSH to a remote host and ran "kill" in
Eshell, it would be killing *local* processes. That's highly
unexpected and would probably cause serious problems! I think the best
way to fix this would simply be for 'eshell/kill' to fall back to
'/usr/bin/kill' any time the default-directory is remote. That way is
a lot safer.

Message #14 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:22:58 -0700

On 7/9/2024 5:08 PM, Jim Porter wrote:
> I think the best way to fix this would simply be for 'eshell/kill' to
> fall back to '/usr/bin/kill' any time the default-directory is
> remote. That way is a lot safer.
I've pushed a fix for this to the master branch as 342998511ad. 
(Skipping the Emacs 30 branch, since this broken behavior has been with 
us for a long time, and I think it can wait another release.) Could you 
try it out to see if things work better?

Message #17 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with
 eshell/sudo correctly
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 09:33:31 +0200

Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hi Jim,

> Tramp doesn't support 'signal-process' in the first place, as far as I
> know (but it does support things like 'delete-process').

Tramp ought to support signal-process (and interrupt-process). See
optional argument REMOTE of signal-process.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #20 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>, 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:14:47 -0700

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On 7/10/2024 12:33 AM, Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, 
the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote:
> Tramp ought to support signal-process (and interrupt-process). See
> optional argument REMOTE of signal-process.
> 
> Best regards, Michael.

Ok, I figured out why I thought Tramp didn't support 'signal-process'. 
Elsewhere in Emacs, you can provide the signal to use like so: 
'SIGKILL'. However, Tramp's 'tramp-signal-process' passes the name 
directly to the POSIX "kill" command, which expects the "SIG" to be 
removed. Here's a patch which does this.

[0001-Support-passing-signals-like-SIGCODE-to-tramp-signal.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

Message #23 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:17:27 -0700

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

On 7/14/2024 3:14 PM, Jim Porter wrote:
> On 7/10/2024 12:33 AM, Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, 
> the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote:
>> Tramp ought to support signal-process (and interrupt-process). See
>> optional argument REMOTE of signal-process.
>>
>> Best regards, Michael.
> 
> Ok, I figured out why I thought Tramp didn't support 'signal-process'. 
> Elsewhere in Emacs, you can provide the signal to use like so: 
> 'SIGKILL'. However, Tramp's 'tramp-signal-process' passes the name 
> directly to the POSIX "kill" command, which expects the "SIG" to be 
> removed. Here's a patch which does this.

Whoops, we should be case-insensitive about things here. Fixed in the 
attached patch.

[0001-Support-passing-signals-like-SIGCODE-to-tramp-signal.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

Message #26 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with
 eshell/sudo correctly
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:10:39 +0200

Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hi Jim,

>> Ok, I figured out why I thought Tramp didn't support
>> 'signal-process'. Elsewhere in Emacs, you can provide the signal to
>> use like so: 'SIGKILL'. However, Tramp's 'tramp-signal-process'
>> passes the name directly to the POSIX "kill" command, which expects
>> the "SIG" to be removed. Here's a patch which does this.
>
> Whoops, we should be case-insensitive about things here. Fixed in the
> attached patch.

Thanks for the patch. LGTM, pls install. Whether in the emacs-30 or
master branch is up to the maintainers, I'm fine with both.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #29 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jporterbugs <at> gmail.com, the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me, 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:00:07 +0300

> Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:10:39 +0200
> From:  Michael Albinus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> >> Ok, I figured out why I thought Tramp didn't support
> >> 'signal-process'. Elsewhere in Emacs, you can provide the signal to
> >> use like so: 'SIGKILL'. However, Tramp's 'tramp-signal-process'
> >> passes the name directly to the POSIX "kill" command, which expects
> >> the "SIG" to be removed. Here's a patch which does this.
> >
> > Whoops, we should be case-insensitive about things here. Fixed in the
> > attached patch.
> 
> Thanks for the patch. LGTM, pls install. Whether in the emacs-30 or
> master branch is up to the maintainers, I'm fine with both.

The emacs-30 release branch is fine for this, thanks.

Message #32 received at 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:36:54 -0700

On 7/15/2024 4:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: 72013 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:10:39 +0200
>> From:  Michael Albinus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>   the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
>>
>> Thanks for the patch. LGTM, pls install. Whether in the emacs-30 or
>> master branch is up to the maintainers, I'm fine with both.
> 
> The emacs-30 release branch is fine for this, thanks.

Thanks. Pushed to the release branch as 68b7806c319. Leaving this bug 
open for now to do some further work on the Eshell side of things.

Message #37 received at 72013-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: the_wurfkreuz <the_wurfkreuz <at> proton.me>
Cc: 72013-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72013: The eshell/kill command doesn't work with eshell/sudo
 correctly
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 12:33:57 -0700

On 7/9/2024 5:22 PM, Jim Porter wrote:
> I've pushed a fix for this to the master branch as 342998511ad. 
> (Skipping the Emacs 30 branch, since this broken behavior has been with 
> us for a long time, and I think it can wait another release.) Could you 
> try it out to see if things work better?

I've pushed an improved version of this to the master branch as 
259f4613bde. It uses remote 'signal-process' when possible, fixes some 
bugs, and also reports an error if 'signal-process' fails for some 
reason (e.g. lack of permissions).

Closing this bug now, but if there's anything still not working, let me 
know.

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