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While testing GNU Emacs built on Fedora 40 with gcc (GCC) 14.1.1 
20240607 (Red Hat 14.1.1-5) with -m32 for x86 and configured 
--with-wide-int, I discovered that Emacs misbehaved in a hard-to-debug 
way due to GCC bug 58416. This bug causes GCC to generate wrong x86 
machine instructions when a C program accesses a union containing a 
'double'.

The bug I observed is that if you have something like this:

    union u { double d; long long int i; } u;

then GCC sometimes generates x86 instructions that copy u.i by using 
fldl/fstpl instruction pairs to push the 64-bit quantity onto the 387 
floating point stack, and then pop the stack into another memory 
location. Unfortunately the fldl/fstpl trick fails in the unusual case 
when the bit pattern of u.i, when interpreted as a double, is a NaN, as 
that can cause the fldl/fstpl pair to store a different NaN with a 
different bit pattern, which means the destination integer disagrees 
with u.i.

The bug is obscure, since the bug's presence depends on the GCC version, 
on the optimization options used, on the exact source code, and on the 
exact integer value at runtime (the value is typically copied correctly 
even when GCC has generated the incorrect machine code, since most long 
long int values don't alias with NaNs).

In short the bug appears to be rare.

Here are some possible courses of action:

* Do nothing and hope x86 users won't run into this rare bug.

* Have the GCC folks fix the bug. However, given that the bug has been 
reported for over a decade multiple times without a fix, it seems that 
fixing it is too difficult and/or too low priority for this aging 
platform. Also, even if the bug is fixed in future GCC the bug will 
still be present with people using older GCC.

* Build with Clang or some other compiler instead. We should be 
encouraging GCC, though.

* Rewrite Emacs to never use 'double' (or 'float' or 'long double') 
inside a union. This could be painful and hardly seems worthwhile.

* When using GCC to build Emacs on x86, compile with safer options that 
make the bug impossible. The attached proposed patch does that, by 
telling GCC not to use the 387 stack. (This patch fixed the Emacs 
misbehavior in my experimental build.) The downside is that the 
resulting Emacs executables need SSE2, introduced for the Pentium 4 in 
2000 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2>. Nowadays few users need to 
run Emacs on non-SSE2 x86, so this may be good enough. Also, the 
proposed patch gives the builder an option to compile Emacs without the 
safer options, for people who want to build for older Intel-compatible 
platforms and who don't mind an occasional wrong answer or crash.

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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>
Subject: 72145 has a patch
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tags 72145 + patch





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