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emacs --user documentation

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: emacs --user documentation
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800

$ man emacs
    -u user, --user=user
                      Load user's init file.

Add:
        instead of yours.
Or:
        in addition to yours.

Message #10 received at 72169-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 72169-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:18:49 +0300

> From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800
> 
> $ man emacs
>     -u user, --user=user
>                       Load user's init file.
> 
> Add:
>         instead of yours.
> Or:
>         in addition to yours.

See "emacs --help" and the Emacs user manual for a better description.

I don't see a need to invest efforts in making the man page better.
We prefer the Info manual and the on-line help for a reason.

So I'm closing this bug report.

Message #13 received at 72169-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 72169-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:31 -0700

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800
>>
>> $ man emacs
>>     -u user, --user=user
>>                       Load user's init file.
>>
>> Add:
>>         instead of yours.
>> Or:
>>         in addition to yours.
>
> See "emacs --help" and the Emacs user manual for a better description.
>
> I don't see a need to invest efforts in making the man page better.
> We prefer the Info manual and the on-line help for a reason.
>
> So I'm closing this bug report.

I installed a change to add the words "instead of your own", which is
the same text as in "emacs --help".

Message #16 received at 72169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 72169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:57:58 +0300

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:31 -0700
> Cc: 72169-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800
> >>
> >> $ man emacs
> >>     -u user, --user=user
> >>                       Load user's init file.
> >>
> >> Add:
> >>         instead of yours.
> >> Or:
> >>         in addition to yours.
> >
> > See "emacs --help" and the Emacs user manual for a better description.
> >
> > I don't see a need to invest efforts in making the man page better.
> > We prefer the Info manual and the on-line help for a reason.
> >
> > So I'm closing this bug report.
> 
> I installed a change to add the words "instead of your own", which is
> the same text as in "emacs --help".

Thanks for upholding my opinions.

Message #19 received at 72169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 72169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:00:16 -0400

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  > Add:
  >         instead of yours.
  > Or:
  >         in addition to yours.

Good catch.

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