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I thought this would be an easy upgrade, but it seems that it will
cause a lot of churn. 'guix refresh' says:

    Building the following 1640 packages would ensure 3146 dependent
packages are rebuilt

I believe this is because Shepherd is built against guile-3.0-latest,
and elogind depends on Shepherd.

Guix *should* be in a position to get fresh Guile builds quickly, but
I guess this process will be slow until the guile-3.0 package can be
upgraded to 3.0.10 (which will require a world rebuild) at which point
Shepherd can return to using guile-3.0.

There's a lot of compiler improvements and bug fixes in 3.0.10, so it
would be nice to have this update land soon. After this, I can update
guile-hoot depend on it rather than guile-next. Several other packages
depending on guile-next could also be upgraded to use guile-3.0-latest
instead, such as guile-ares-rs.

Who can help me "shepherd" this upgrade? ;)

Thanks,

- Dave

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Thanks to Efraim for pointing out that we could simply switch Shepherd
to refer to guile-3.0 instead of guile-3.0-latest.  The attached patch
does this.

Now updating guile-3.0-latest causes much less churn:

Building the following 23 packages would ensure 47 dependent packages
are rebuilt: guile-studio@HIDDEN guile-chickadee@HIDDEN
guile-gemini@HIDDEN guile-openai@HIDDEN guile-newra@HIDDEN
haunt@HIDDEN guile-bash@HIDDEN lokke@HIDDEN
swineherd@HIDDEN cuirass@HIDDEN emacs-guix@HIDDEN
guile-imanifest@HIDDEN cl-ospm@HIDDEN guix-jupyter@HIDDEN
guix-build-coordinator-agent-only@HIDDEN
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gwl-next@HIDDEN guix-modules@HIDDEN
guix-daemon@HIDDEN bffe@HIDDEN hpcguix-web@HIDDEN

- Dave

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"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@HIDDEN> skribis:

> From f6c6486dab767ba50c4c2ffbb55f10bbf4ee1000 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> Message-ID: <f6c6486dab767ba50c4c2ffbb55f10bbf4ee1000.1721332994.git.dtho=
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> From: David Thompson <dthompson2@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 14:54:20 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: guile: Update to 3.0.10.
>
> * gnu/packages/guile.scm (guile-3.0-latest): Update to 3.0.10.
>
> Change-Id: Id9d58199f1fa3307c94f442c185307d2f4a9ce6f

> From 76c82888fefcef1226c6d18a4cf790d5e02d1c32 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
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> From: David Thompson <dthompson2@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:43:32 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: shepherd 0.9: Switch from guile-3.0-latest to guile=
-3.0.
>=20
> * gnu/packages/admin.scm (shepherd-0.9)[native-inputs]: Use guile-3.0.
> [inputs]: Ditto.
>=20
> Change-Id: I7f7efabc43e11e413300c6aa4c22919070d22389

LGTM.  (Commit the Shepherd patch first.)

Thank you! :-)

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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I thought this would be an easy upgrade, but it seems that it will
cause a lot of churn. 'guix refresh' says:

    Building the following 1640 packages would ensure 3146 dependent
packages are rebuilt

I believe this is because Shepherd is built against guile-3.0-latest,
and elogind depends on Shepherd.

Guix *should* be in a position to get fresh Guile builds quickly, but
I guess this process will be slow until the guile-3.0 package can be
upgraded to 3.0.10 (which will require a world rebuild) at which point
Shepherd can return to using guile-3.0.

There's a lot of compiler improvements and bug fixes in 3.0.10, so it
would be nice to have this update land soon. After this, I can update
guile-hoot depend on it rather than guile-next. Several other packages
depending on guile-next could also be upgraded to use guile-3.0-latest
instead, such as guile-ares-rs.

Who can help me "shepherd" this upgrade? ;)

Thanks,

- Dave

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> LGTM.  (Commit the Shepherd patch first.)

Pushed! Thanks for the review!

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> LGTM.  (Commit the Shepherd patch first.)

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I thought this would be an easy upgrade, but it seems that it will
cause a lot of churn. 'guix refresh' says:

    Building the following 1640 packages would ensure 3146 dependent
packages are rebuilt

I believe this is because Shepherd is built against guile-3.0-latest,
and elogind depends on Shepherd.

Guix *should* be in a position to get fresh Guile builds quickly, but
I guess this process will be slow until the guile-3.0 package can be
upgraded to 3.0.10 (which will require a world rebuild) at which point
Shepherd can return to using guile-3.0.

There's a lot of compiler improvements and bug fixes in 3.0.10, so it
would be nice to have this update land soon. After this, I can update
guile-hoot depend on it rather than guile-next. Several other packages
depending on guile-next could also be upgraded to use guile-3.0-latest
instead, such as guile-ares-rs.

Who can help me "shepherd" this upgrade? ;)

Thanks,

- Dave

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Hey,

I temporarily reverted the commits that upgrade Guile and adjust Hoot in
31244f5cefae4c14a1a5d441dc3b3626b5f32abc so we can investigate the issue
below (which broke =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99) without pressure.

Turns out =E2=80=98guile-3.0-latest=E2=80=99 is used to build Guix itself (=
via =E2=80=98guix
pull=E2=80=99, but also the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 package) and this cause =
a failure of
guix-cli-core.drv:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
error: failed to compile 'guix/scripts/authenticate.scm':

In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1558:45 19 (loop _ _ _ value)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:17 18 (map1 (#<tree-il (call (@ (guile) format) (const #f) (const "(=
signature ~a ~a ~a)") (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (=
lexical data t1416)) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (c=
all (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t1416) (lexical secret-key t1=
418))) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lexical public-=
key t1420)))>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1558:45 17 (loop _ _ _ value)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:29 16 (map1 (#<tree-il (const #f)> #<tree-il (const "(signature ~a ~=
a ~a)")> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lex=
ical data t1416))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->st=
ring) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t1416) (lexical secre=
t-key t1418)))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->strin=
g) (lexical public-key t1420))>))
   586:29 15 (map1 (#<tree-il (const "(signature ~a ~a ~a)")> #<tree-il (ca=
ll (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lexical data t1416))> #<t=
ree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (call (@ (gcrypt=
 pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t1416) (lexical secret-key t1418)))> #<tree=
-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lexical public-key=
 t1420))>))
   586:17 14 (map1 (#<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->s=
tring) (lexical data t1416))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonic=
al-sexp->string) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t1416) (le=
xical secret-key t1418)))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-=
sexp->string) (lexical public-key t1420))>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:

error: failed to compile 'guix/scripts/publish.scm':

In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1558:45 13 (loop _ _ _ value)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:17 12 (map1 (#<tree-il (lexical data t1416)>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1558:45 19 (loop _ _ _ values)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:17 18 (map1 (#<tree-il (call (@ (guile) format) (const #f) (const "(=
signature ~a ~a ~a)") (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (=
lexical data t6047)) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (c=
all (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t6047) (lexical secret-key t6=
048))) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lexical public-=
key t6049)))>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
   887:11 11 (loop _ _ #<<counter> effort: #<variable 7fffe74eca90 value: 4=
84> size: #<variable 7fffe74eca80 value: 20> continuation: #<procedure abor=
t ()> recursive?: #t data: #<tree-il (lambda ((name . signature-sexp)) (lam=
bda-case (((data secret-key public-key) #f #f #f () (t1416 t1418 t1420)) (c=
all (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) string->canonical-sexp) (call (@ (guile) format) =
(const #f) (const "(signature ~a ~a ~a)") (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canon=
ical-sexp->string) (lexical data t1416)) (cal?> ?)
   371:20 10 (visit-operand #<<operand> var: #<<var> name: data gensym: dat=
a-ae6ce62b6fb2770-3a7 refcount: 1 set?: #f> sym: #{data 1412}# visit: #<pro=
cedure 7fffecafb040 at language/tree-il/peval.scm:1011:40 (exp counter ctx)=
> source: #<tree-il (primcall values (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) bytevector=
->hash-data) (lexical sha256 sha256-ae6ce62b6fb2770-39d) (const #:key-type)=
 (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) key-type) (lexical public-key public-key-ae6ce=
62b6fb2770-39b))))> visit-count: 1 use-count:?> ?)

  1558:45 17 (loop _ _ _ value)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:29 16 (map1 (#<tree-il (const #f)> #<tree-il (const "(signature ~a ~=
a ~a)")> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lex=
ical data t6047))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->st=
ring) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t6047) (lexical secre=
t-key t6048)))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->strin=
g) (lexical public-key t6049))>))
   586:29 15 (map1 (#<tree-il (const "(signature ~a ~a ~a)")> #<tree-il (ca=
ll (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lexical data t6047))> #<t=
ree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (call (@ (gcrypt=
 pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t6047) (lexical secret-key t6048)))> #<tree=
-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->string) (lexical public-key=
 t6049))>))
   586:17 14 (map1 (#<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->s=
tring) (lexical data t6047))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonic=
al-sexp->string) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) sign) (lexical data t6047) (le=
xical secret-key t6048)))> #<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-=
sexp->string) (lexical public-key t6049))>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1319:22  9 (loop _ #<vhash 7fffecafb0a0 92 pairs> #<<counter> effort: #<v=
ariable 7fffe74eca90 value: 484> size: #<variable 7fffe74eca80 value: 20> c=
ontinuation: #<procedure abort ()> recursive?: #t data: #<tree-il (lambda (=
(name . signature-sexp)) (lambda-case (((data secret-key public-key) #f #f =
#f () (t1416 t1418 t1420)) (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) string->canonical-se=
xp) (call (@ (guile) format) (const #f) (const "(signature ~a ~a ~a)") (cal=
l (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) canonical-sexp->strin?> ?)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:17  8 (map1 (#<tree-il (call (@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) bytevector->hash-=
data) (lexical sha256 sha256-ae6ce62b6fb2770-39d) (const #:key-type) (call =
(@ (gcrypt pk-crypto) key-type) (lexical public-key public-key-ae6ce62b6fb2=
770-39b)))>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1558:45 13 (loop _ _ _ value)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   586:17 12 (map1 (#<tree-il (lexical data t6047)>))
In language/tree-il/peval.scm:
  1762:18  7 (loop _ _ _ _)
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
  1676:22  6 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _)
  1676:22  5 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _)
  1802:13  4 (_ #<&compound-exception components: (#<&error> #<&origin orig=
in: #f> #<&message message: "internal error: unexpected kwarg syms ~S ~S"> =
#<&irritants irritants: (((#:key-type key-type #f)) (t1441))> #<&exception-=
with-kind-and-args kind: misc-error args: (#f "internal error: unexpected k=
warg syms ~S ~S" (((#:key-type key-type #f)) (t1441)) #f)>)>)
In guix/build/compile.scm:
    191:6  3=20
[ 36/ 50] compiling...	 44.0% of 25 files(_ misc-error #f "internal error: =
unexpected kwarg syms ~S ~S" (((#:key-type key-type #f)) (t1441)) #f)
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
  1749:15  2 (with-exception-handler #<procedure 7fffec498f30 at ice-9/boot=
-9.scm:1853:7 (exn)> _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _)
In guix/build/compile.scm:
   194:21  1 (_)
In unknown file:
           0 (make-stack #t)
guix/build/compile.scm:194:21: internal error: unexpected kwarg syms ((#:ke=
y-type key-type #f)) (t1441)

[ 38/ 50] compiling...	 52.0% of 25 files
[ 38/ 50] compiling...	 52.0% of 25 files
[ 39/ 50] compiling...	 56.0% of 25 files
[ 40/ 50] compiling...	 60.0% of 25 filesbuilder for `/gnu/store/w9yvw8972x=
ns0j3j36lg4lbyqv5m2f25-guix-cli-core.drv' failed with exit code 1

[ 41/ 50] compiling...	 64.0% of 25 files
[ 42/ 50] compiling...	 68.0% of 25 filesderivation '/gnu/store/w9yvw8972xn=
s0j3j36lg4lbyqv5m2f25-guix-cli-core.drv' offloaded to '141.80.167.177' fail=
ed: build of `/gnu/store/w9yvw8972xns0j3j36lg4lbyqv5m2f25-guix-cli-core.drv=
' failed

[ 43/ 50] compiling...	 72.0% of 25 files
[ 44/ 50] compiling...	 76.0% of 25 files
[ 45/ 50] compiling...	 80.0% of 25 files
[ 46/ 50] compiling...	 84.0% of 25 files
[ 47/ 50] compiling...	 88.0% of 25 files
[ 48/ 50] compiling...	 92.0% of 25 files
[ 49/ 50] compiling...	 96.0% of 25 filescannot build derivation `/gnu/stor=
e/9wyflvlskm5s5043zrrivfv3mv58n1vw-guix-cli-core-modules.drv': 1 dependenci=
es couldn't be built
cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/ych1s7kdksq08rzd1m6ddkpp7x8pw56x-guix-c=
li.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

(Taken from <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/1497691/log/raw> and edited to
be more readable.)

The expressions leading to this internal compiler error are:

  (bytevector->hash-data (sha256 (string->utf8 s))
                         #:key-type (key-type public-key))

and:

  (bytevector->hash-data sha256
                         #:key-type (key-type public-key))

This sounds like a compiler bug, possibly related to Guile commit
f95bf6921e13799abca6a0a13087609c42baba6b.

Note that =E2=80=98bytevector->hash-data=E2=80=99 comes from Guile-Gcrypt, =
which was
itself still compiled with 3.0.9.  So there=E2=80=99s a possibility that th=
e bug
comes with this particular combination as is exhibited by cross-module
inlining.

To be continued=E2=80=A6

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hey Ludo,

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 4:40=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>=
 wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I temporarily reverted the commits that upgrade Guile and adjust Hoot in
> 31244f5cefae4c14a1a5d441dc3b3626b5f32abc so we can investigate the issue
> below (which broke =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99) without pressure.

Oh no, sorry! I ran 'guix pull' after pushing these commits and didn't
experience issues so I thought all was well. :(

> Turns out =E2=80=98guile-3.0-latest=E2=80=99 is used to build Guix itself=
 (via =E2=80=98guix
> pull=E2=80=99, but also the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 package) and this caus=
e a failure of
> guix-cli-core.drv:

How about using guile-3.0 for Guix so that future Guile updates can be
done without fear?

> The expressions leading to this internal compiler error are:
>
>   (bytevector->hash-data (sha256 (string->utf8 s))
>                          #:key-type (key-type public-key))
>
> and:
>
>   (bytevector->hash-data sha256
>                          #:key-type (key-type public-key))
>
> This sounds like a compiler bug, possibly related to Guile commit
> f95bf6921e13799abca6a0a13087609c42baba6b.
>
> Note that =E2=80=98bytevector->hash-data=E2=80=99 comes from Guile-Gcrypt=
, which was
> itself still compiled with 3.0.9.  So there=E2=80=99s a possibility that =
the bug
> comes with this particular combination as is exhibited by cross-module
> inlining.

Yup, that certainly sounds like what is happening here. Cross-module
inlining + the new keyword args optimization.

Sorry for breaking 'guix pull'. I thought I had scoped the changes
down to a safe level. :(

- Dave

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Hi David,

"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@HIDDEN> skribis:

> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 4:40=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN=
g> wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I temporarily reverted the commits that upgrade Guile and adjust Hoot in
>> 31244f5cefae4c14a1a5d441dc3b3626b5f32abc so we can investigate the issue
>> below (which broke =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99) without pressure.
>
> Oh no, sorry! I ran 'guix pull' after pushing these commits and didn't
> experience issues so I thought all was well. :(

No worries, I didn=E2=80=99t expect that either.

>> Turns out =E2=80=98guile-3.0-latest=E2=80=99 is used to build Guix itsel=
f (via =E2=80=98guix
>> pull=E2=80=99, but also the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 package) and this cau=
se a failure of
>> guix-cli-core.drv:
>
> How about using guile-3.0 for Guix so that future Guile updates can be
> done without fear?

We can do that, though I like the idea of following Guile closely.

[...]

>> Note that =E2=80=98bytevector->hash-data=E2=80=99 comes from Guile-Gcryp=
t, which was
>> itself still compiled with 3.0.9.  So there=E2=80=99s a possibility that=
 the bug
>> comes with this particular combination as is exhibited by cross-module
>> inlining.
>
> Yup, that certainly sounds like what is happening here. Cross-module
> inlining + the new keyword args optimization.

I came up with a reduced test case and reported it here:

  https://issues.guix.gnu.org/72936

Another problem I had forgotten is that Guile current =E2=80=98main=E2=80=
=99 and 3.0.10
fails to build on 32-bit platforms:

  https://issues.guix.gnu.org/72215

The best course of action might be to release 3.0.11 with bug fixes for
at least these two things.  WDYT?

In the meantime, I keep using the Guile channel, which works well for me:

  (channel
    (name 'guile)
    (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guile.git")
    (branch "main"))

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hey Ludo,

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 1:31=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 4:40=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@gnu.=
org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> I temporarily reverted the commits that upgrade Guile and adjust Hoot =
in
> >> 31244f5cefae4c14a1a5d441dc3b3626b5f32abc so we can investigate the iss=
ue
> >> below (which broke =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99) without pressure.
> >
> > Oh no, sorry! I ran 'guix pull' after pushing these commits and didn't
> > experience issues so I thought all was well. :(
>
> No worries, I didn=E2=80=99t expect that either.
>
> >> Turns out =E2=80=98guile-3.0-latest=E2=80=99 is used to build Guix its=
elf (via =E2=80=98guix
> >> pull=E2=80=99, but also the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 package) and this c=
ause a failure of
> >> guix-cli-core.drv:
> >
> > How about using guile-3.0 for Guix so that future Guile updates can be
> > done without fear?
>
> We can do that, though I like the idea of following Guile closely.

Okay, let's not do this, then. :)

> >> Note that =E2=80=98bytevector->hash-data=E2=80=99 comes from Guile-Gcr=
ypt, which was
> >> itself still compiled with 3.0.9.  So there=E2=80=99s a possibility th=
at the bug
> >> comes with this particular combination as is exhibited by cross-module
> >> inlining.
> >
> > Yup, that certainly sounds like what is happening here. Cross-module
> > inlining + the new keyword args optimization.
>
> I came up with a reduced test case and reported it here:
>
>   https://issues.guix.gnu.org/72936

Awesome, thanks!  Forwarded this to Andy.

> Another problem I had forgotten is that Guile current =E2=80=98main=E2=80=
=99 and 3.0.10
> fails to build on 32-bit platforms:
>
>   https://issues.guix.gnu.org/72215
>
> The best course of action might be to release 3.0.11 with bug fixes for
> at least these two things.  WDYT?

Yes, I think skipping 3.0.10 entirely makes sense.  I will update
guile-next at some point, though, since these issues are already
present in the current version of that package.

> In the meantime, I keep using the Guile channel, which works well for me:
>
>   (channel
>     (name 'guile)
>     (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guile.git")
>     (branch "main"))

Oh neat, I didn't realize this was a thing.

Thanks,

- Dave

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