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Subject: Re: bug#72282: History entries shouldn't have the exact region
hardwired in
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>> So maybe for all history items, they shouldn't have the exact region hardwired in.
>
> Currently this can be achieved with a 'declare' form,
> but I don't know why this is not enabled consistently
> for region arguments of more commands:
>
> diff --git a/lisp/simple.el b/lisp/simple.el
> @@ -4944,6 +4944,9 @@ shell-command-on-region
> The differences are especially prominent when the region includes
> more than one line, i.e. when piping to a shell commands with embedded
> newlines."
> + (declare (interactive-args
> + (start (use-region-beginning))
> + (end (use-region-end))))
> (interactive (let (string)
> (unless (mark)
> (user-error "The mark is not set now, so there is no region"))
Unfortunately, with this patch the bootstrap fails with:
Loading lisp/simple.el (source)...
Error: error ("Eager macro-expansion failure: (void-function seq-position)")
Eager macro-expansion failure: (void-function seq-position)
because seq.el is loaded after simple.el.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#72282; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 72282) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2024 18:22:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 25 14:22:58 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37746 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sX37B-0003TU-RV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:22:58 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:46375) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1sX37A-0003TE-Ec for 72282 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:22:57 -0400 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26D06C0002; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 18:22:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#72282: History entries shouldn't have the exact region hardwired in In-Reply-To: <87o76m1ilb.1.fsf@HIDDEN> (Dan Jacobson's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:22:08 +0800") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87o76m1ilb.1.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 21:12:44 +0300 Message-ID: <86v80tig7r.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72282 Cc: 72282 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > (repeat-complex-command) > is great, except when used after > (shell-command-on-region) > in which case we will be repeating > (shell-command-on-region 2234 2892 ...) > instead of just > (shell-command-on-region REGION-START REGION-END ...) > in other words the previous exact region is hardwired into > the history. > > Yes, you might say well then just do `M-| <up> RET`. > Well that's harder to type than `<again>`, `<redo>`, `C-x M-:` or `C-x M-ESC`, > which are the bindings of repeat-complex-command. > > So maybe for all history items, they shouldn't have the exact region hardwired in. Currently this can be achieved with a 'declare' form, but I don't know why this is not enabled consistently for region arguments of more commands: diff --git a/lisp/simple.el b/lisp/simple.el index a9f8b5845d8..b3a72c2635a 100644 --- a/lisp/simple.el +++ b/lisp/simple.el @@ -4944,6 +4944,9 @@ shell-command-on-region The differences are especially prominent when the region includes more than one line, i.e. when piping to a shell commands with embedded newlines." + (declare (interactive-args + (start (use-region-beginning)) + (end (use-region-end)))) (interactive (let (string) (unless (mark) (user-error "The mark is not set now, so there is no region"))
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I brought this up when the change was made to do what's done now. Originally Emacs put nil nil in place of the specific region limits. I don't recall whether a bug was filed for that change or it was discussed in emacs-devel before the change was made. In any case, the decision was to go with the "enhancement" that we have now: the specific region limits. IOW, FWIW, I agree with you. I find myself hand-replacing the numeric limits with nil's fairly often. I don't recall the reasons given for the change to use the explicit numbers - if any reasons were given.
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Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:22:09 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: History entries shouldn't have the exact region hardwired in Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:22:08 +0800 Message-ID: <87o76m1ilb.1.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.218.253; envelope-from=jidanni@HIDDEN; helo=iguana.tulip.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) (repeat-complex-command) is great, except when used after (shell-command-on-region) in which case we will be repeating (shell-command-on-region 2234 2892 ...) instead of just (shell-command-on-region REGION-START REGION-END ...) in other words the previous exact region is hardwired into the history. Yes, you might say well then just do `M-| <up> RET`. Well that's harder to type than `<again>`, `<redo>`, `C-x M-:` or `C-x M-ESC`, which are the bindings of repeat-complex-command. So maybe for all history items, they shouldn't have the exact region hardwired in.
Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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