GNU bug report logs - #73082
30; Inconsistent Stipple Support

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Package: emacs; Reported by: JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN>; dated Fri, 6 Sep 2024 21:59:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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> On Sep 13, 2024, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> wrote:
>=20
> JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> Po, did any potential causes for intermittent stipple display among
>> identical Cairo builds occur to you?  Anything obvious to test?
>=20
> No, sorry.

New clue on this end from user reports.  Building --with-cairo disables =
stipples.  Building --without-cairo yields good stipples.  Omitting any =
mention of Cairo among the build flags also yields good stipples (even =
with the same exact emacs-version). =20

So something specific to the --with-cairo flag itself seems to be =
breaking stipples.  Very surprising.=




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JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> writes:

> Po, did any potential causes for intermittent stipple display among
> identical Cairo builds occur to you?  Anything obvious to test?

No, sorry.




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> On Sep 7, 2024, at 9:17=E2=80=AFAM, JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
>=20
> On Sep 7, 2024, at 2:51=E2=80=AFAM, Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN =
<mailto:luangruo@HIDDEN>> wrote:
> I am also interested to know precisely which Cairo builds fail to
> display them, the stipple implementations being virtually identical
> across the PGTK and the X + Cairo builds.

>> The Cairo issue has been harder to track down.  Several users have =
reported Cairo builds which fail to display stipples.  I gather Cairo is =
the default so this must be a sporadic failure.  Recently a user with =
identical builds on two different machines, with the precise same =
version of GTK3 and Cairo, found that one system shows stipples =
correctly, the other omits them entirely.  On the non-working system, =
compiling --without-cairo resolves this.

Po, did any potential causes for intermittent stipple display among =
identical Cairo builds occur to you?  Anything obvious to test?


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after-white-space;"><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Sep 7, =
2024, at 9:17=E2=80=AFAM, JD Smith &lt;jdtsmith@HIDDEN&gt; =
wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
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2024, at 2:51=E2=80=AFAM, Po Lu &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:luangruo@HIDDEN">luangruo@HIDDEN</a>&gt; =
wrote:</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">I am also interested to know precisely =
which Cairo builds fail to</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, =
0);">display them, the stipple implementations being virtually =
identical<br>across the PGTK and the X + Cairo =
builds.</blockquote><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The Cairo =
issue has been harder to track down. &nbsp;Several users have reported =
Cairo builds which fail to display stipples. &nbsp;I gather Cairo is the =
default so this must be a sporadic failure. &nbsp;Recently a user with =
identical builds on two different machines, with the precise same =
version of GTK3 and Cairo, found that one system shows stipples =
correctly, the other omits them entirely. &nbsp;On the non-working =
system, compiling&nbsp;<span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(5, 12, 20); =
color: rgb(5, 12, 20); font-family: ui-monospace, SFMono-Regular, =
&quot;SF Mono&quot;, Menlo, Consolas, &quot;Liberation Mono&quot;, =
monospace; font-size: 11.9px; white-space: break-spaces; =
background-color: rgba(173, 182, 194, =
0.2);">--without-cairo</span>&nbsp;resolves =
this.</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Po, =
did any potential causes for intermittent stipple display among =
identical Cairo builds occur to you? &nbsp;Anything obvious to =
test?</div><br></body></html>=

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> The Cairo issue has been harder to track down.  Several users have reporte=
d Cairo builds which fail to display stipples.  I gather Cairo is the defaul=
t so this must be a sporadic failure.  Recently a user with identical builds=
 on two different machines, with the precise same version of GTK3 and Cairo,=
 found that one system shows stipples correctly, the other omits them entire=
ly.  On the non-working system, compiling --without-cairo resolves this.
>=20
> The build version in questions is:=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> He's willing to test these systems. =20
>=20

Copying in the affected user. =20=

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us-ascii"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The Cairo issue has been harder to track d=
own. &nbsp;Several users have reported Cairo builds which fail to display st=
ipples. &nbsp;I gather Cairo is the default so this must be a sporadic failu=
re. &nbsp;Recently a user with identical builds on two different machines, w=
ith the precise same version of GTK3 and Cairo, found that one system shows s=
tipples correctly, the other omits them entirely. &nbsp;On the non-working s=
ystem, compiling&nbsp;<span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(5, 12, 20); color: rgb=
(5, 12, 20); font-family: ui-monospace, SFMono-Regular, &quot;SF Mono&quot;,=
 Menlo, Consolas, &quot;Liberation Mono&quot;, monospace; font-size: 11.9px;=
 white-space: break-spaces; background-color: rgba(173, 182, 194, 0.2);">--w=
ithout-cairo</span>&nbsp;resolves this.</div><div><br></div><div>The build v=
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> On Sep 7, 2024, at 2:51=E2=80=AFAM, Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> wrote:
>=20
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>>> From: JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN>
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 17:58:02 -0400
>>>=20
>>> (let* ((w (window-font-width))
>>>       (stipple `(,w 1 ,(apply #'unibyte-string (make-list (/ (+ w 7) =
8) 186)))))
>>>  (insert "\n" (propertize (concat  (make-string 15 ?\s)
>>> 				    "THIS IS A TEST"
>>> 				    (make-string 15 ?\s))
>>>                           'face `(:background "red" :foreground =
"blue" :stipple ,stipple))))
>>>=20
>>> Only some Emacs 30 builds correctly render this simple stipple.  =
There has been some progress on :stipple support recently, but it =
remains incomplete.  To my knowledge, the current situation for :stipple =
support in Emacs 30 is as follows...
>> The MS-Windows build of the emacs-30 branch here shows the display =
you
>> expected.
>=20
> You should add Haiku and Android to your list, as Emacs supports
> stipples on both of these window systems.  (And on the latter they =
were
> in fact implemented for your package.)
>=20
> I am also interested to know precisely which Cairo builds fail to
> display them, the stipple implementations being virtually identical
> across the PGTK and the X + Cairo builds.

Thanks, this is all positive news.  Glad to learn of Android+Haiku =
support.  Is support on these builds arriving for Emacs 30 only?

The Cairo issue has been harder to track down.  Several users have =
reported Cairo builds which fail to display stipples.  I gather Cairo is =
the default so this must be a sporadic failure.  Recently a user with =
identical builds on two different machines, with the precise same =
version of GTK3 and Cairo, found that one system shows stipples =
correctly, the other omits them entirely.  On the non-working system, =
compiling --without-cairo resolves this.

The build version in questions is:=20

=EF=BF=BC

He's willing to test these systems. =20

Thanks for your work on this.=

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id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Sep 7, 2024, at 2:51=E2=80=AFAM, Po Lu =
&lt;luangruo@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Eli Zaretskii =
&lt;eliz@HIDDEN&gt; writes:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">From: JD Smith &lt;jdtsmith@HIDDEN&gt;<br>Date: Fri, 6 =
Sep 2024 17:58:02 -0400<br><br>(let* ((w (window-font-width))<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(stipple `(,w 1 ,(apply =
#'unibyte-string (make-list (/ (+ w 7) 8) 186)))))<br> &nbsp;(insert =
"\n" (propertize (concat &nbsp;(make-string 15 ?\s)<br><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"THIS IS A TEST"<br><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(make-string =
15 ?\s))<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;'face `(:background "red" :foreground "blue" :stipple =
,stipple))))<br><br>Only some Emacs 30 builds correctly render this =
simple stipple. &nbsp;There has been some progress on :stipple support =
recently, but it remains incomplete. &nbsp;To my knowledge, the current =
situation for :stipple support in Emacs 30 is as =
follows...</blockquote>The MS-Windows build of the emacs-30 branch here =
shows the display you<br>expected.<br></blockquote><br>You should add =
Haiku and Android to your list, as Emacs supports<br>stipples on both of =
these window systems. &nbsp;(And on the latter they were<br>in fact =
implemented for your package.)<br><br>I am also interested to know =
precisely which Cairo builds fail to<br>display them, the stipple =
implementations being virtually identical<br>across the PGTK and the X + =
Cairo builds.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Thanks, this is =
all positive news. &nbsp;Glad to learn of Android+Haiku support. =
&nbsp;Is support on these builds arriving for Emacs 30 =
only?</div><div><br></div><div>The Cairo issue has been harder to track =
down. &nbsp;Several users have reported Cairo builds which fail to =
display stipples. &nbsp;I gather Cairo is the default so this must be a =
sporadic failure. &nbsp;Recently a user with identical builds on two =
different machines, with the precise same version of GTK3 and Cairo, =
found that one system shows stipples correctly, the other omits them =
entirely. &nbsp;On the non-working system, compiling&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(5, 12, 20); color: rgb(5, 12, 20); =
font-family: ui-monospace, SFMono-Regular, &quot;SF Mono&quot;, Menlo, =
Consolas, &quot;Liberation Mono&quot;, monospace; font-size: 11.9px; =
white-space: break-spaces; background-color: rgba(173, 182, 194, =
0.2);">--without-cairo</span>&nbsp;resolves =
this.</div><div><br></div><div>The build version in questions =
is:&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><img =
src=3D"cid:49553672-1B8D-4A61-A104-F23A558837AE" alt=3D"image.png" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); max-width: =
100%;"></div><div><br></div><div>He's willing to test these systems. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your work on =
this.</div></body></html>=

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JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> writes:

> To my knowledge, the current situation for :stipple support in Emacs
> 30 is as follows:
>
> * NS (partially working): Commit ef6ffbdc79 from last May provided a
> partial fix, but stipples are black and white only (bug#70712)

FWIW, this is what I see on macOS with NS-port:

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> * Windows (working?): patched in June (bug#71159)

And this is on Windows:

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Both with "emacs -Q" incl. the value of `emacs-repository-version'.

Best, Arash

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> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> From: JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 17:58:02 -0400
> 
> (let* ((w (window-font-width))
>        (stipple `(,w 1 ,(apply #'unibyte-string (make-list (/ (+ w 7) 8) 186)))))
>   (insert "\n" (propertize (concat  (make-string 15 ?\s)
> 				    "THIS IS A TEST"
> 				    (make-string 15 ?\s))
>                            'face `(:background "red" :foreground "blue" :stipple ,stipple))))
> 
> Only some Emacs 30 builds correctly render this simple stipple.  There has been some progress on :stipple support recently, but it remains incomplete.  To my knowledge, the current situation for :stipple support in Emacs 30 is as follows:
> NS (partially working): Commit ef6ffbdc79 from last May provided a partial fix, but stipples are black and white only (bug#70712)
> Windows (working?): patched in June (bug#71159)
> PGTK (working): incorrect stipple display patched July, 2023 (bug#64969)
> GTK, non-Cairo (working): appears to be working correctly
> GTK + Cairo (not working uniformly): Stipples are reported to be missing with some Cairo builds of Emacs 30
> Other X11 builds (?): Unsure if these are supported (but suspect they are given the legacy of stipple)

The MS-Windows build of the emacs-30 branch here shows the display you
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
>> From: JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 17:58:02 -0400
>> 
>> (let* ((w (window-font-width))
>>        (stipple `(,w 1 ,(apply #'unibyte-string (make-list (/ (+ w 7) 8) 186)))))
>>   (insert "\n" (propertize (concat  (make-string 15 ?\s)
>> 				    "THIS IS A TEST"
>> 				    (make-string 15 ?\s))
>>                            'face `(:background "red" :foreground "blue" :stipple ,stipple))))
>> 
>> Only some Emacs 30 builds correctly render this simple stipple.  There has been some progress on :stipple support recently, but it remains incomplete.  To my knowledge, the current situation for :stipple support in Emacs 30 is as follows:
>> NS (partially working): Commit ef6ffbdc79 from last May provided a partial fix, but stipples are black and white only (bug#70712)
>> Windows (working?): patched in June (bug#71159)
>> PGTK (working): incorrect stipple display patched July, 2023 (bug#64969)
>> GTK, non-Cairo (working): appears to be working correctly
>> GTK + Cairo (not working uniformly): Stipples are reported to be missing with some Cairo builds of Emacs 30
>> Other X11 builds (?): Unsure if these are supported (but suspect they are given the legacy of stipple)
>
> The MS-Windows build of the emacs-30 branch here shows the display you
> expected.

You should add Haiku and Android to your list, as Emacs supports
stipples on both of these window systems.  (And on the latter they were
in fact implemented for your package.)

I am also interested to know precisely which Cairo builds fail to
display them, the stipple implementations being virtually identical
across the PGTK and the X + Cairo builds.





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The :stipple face attribute is not consistently supported across all =
Emacs 30 builds, with incorrect or missing stipple display for NS and =
GTK+Cairo builds. =20

The following test of :stipple should lead to an image similar to the =
attached.

(let* ((w (window-font-width))
       (stipple `(,w 1 ,(apply #'unibyte-string (make-list (/ (+ w 7) 8) =
186)))))
  (insert "\n" (propertize (concat  (make-string 15 ?\s)
				    "THIS IS A TEST"
				    (make-string 15 ?\s))
                           'face `(:background "red" :foreground "blue" =
:stipple ,stipple))))

Only some Emacs 30 builds correctly render this simple stipple.  There =
has been some progress on :stipple support recently, but it remains =
incomplete.  To my knowledge, the current situation for :stipple support =
in Emacs 30 is as follows:
NS (partially working): Commit ef6ffbdc79 from last May provided a =
partial fix, but stipples are black and white only (bug#70712)
Windows (working?): patched in June (bug#71159)
PGTK (working): incorrect stipple display patched July, 2023 (bug#64969)
GTK, non-Cairo (working): appears to be working correctly
GTK + Cairo (not working uniformly): Stipples are reported to be missing =
with some Cairo builds of Emacs 30
Other X11 builds (?): Unsure if these are supported (but suspect they =
are given the legacy of stipple)

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">The :stipple =
face attribute is not consistently supported across all Emacs 30 builds, =
with incorrect or missing stipple display for NS and GTK+Cairo builds. =
&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>The following test of :stipple should lead to =
an image similar to the attached.<div><br></div><div><pre =
class=3D"notranslate" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-family: =
var(--fontStack-monospace, ui-monospace, SFMono-Regular, SF Mono, Menlo, =
Consolas, Liberation Mono, monospace); font-size: 11.9px; margin-top: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; overflow-wrap: normal; padding: =
var(--base-size-16); overflow: auto; line-height: 1.45; color: rgb(5, =
12, 20); border-radius: 6px; word-break: normal; min-height: 52px; =
caret-color: rgb(5, 12, 20);">(<span class=3D"pl-k" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">let*</span> ((w (<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">window-font-width</span>))
       (stipple `(<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;"><span class=3D"pl-mi1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">,</span>w</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">1</span> ,(<span class=3D"pl-k" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">apply</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">#<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">'unibyte-string</span></span> (<span class=3D"pl-k" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">make-list</span> (<span class=3D"pl-k" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">/</span> (<span class=3D"pl-k" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">+</span> w <span class=3D"pl-c1" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">7</span>) <span class=3D"pl-c1" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">8</span>) <span class=3D"pl-c1" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">186</span>)))))
  (<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">insert</span> =
<span class=3D"pl-s" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;"><span =
class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">"</span><span =
class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">\n</span><span =
class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">"</span></span> =
(<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">propertize</span> (<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing:=
 border-box;">concat</span>  (<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">make-string</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing:=
 border-box;">15</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">?\s</span>)
				    <span class=3D"pl-s" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;"><span class=3D"pl-pds" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">"</span>THIS IS A TEST<span =
class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">"</span></span>
				    (<span class=3D"pl-c1" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">make-string</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1"=
 style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">15</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">?\s</span>))
                           <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">'face</span> `(<span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">:background</span> <span class=3D"pl-s" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;"><span class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">"</span>red<span class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">"</span></span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">:foreground</span> <span class=3D"pl-s" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;"><span class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">"</span>blue<span class=3D"pl-pds" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">"</span></span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">:stipple</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;"><span class=3D"pl-mi1" style=3D"box-sizing: =
border-box;">,</span>stipple</span>))))</pre><pre class=3D"notranslate" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
overflow-wrap: normal; padding: var(--base-size-16); overflow: auto; =
line-height: 1.45; border-radius: 6px; word-break: normal; min-height: =
52px;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Helvetica"><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: =
normal;"><br></span></font></pre><pre class=3D"notranslate" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
overflow-wrap: normal; padding: var(--base-size-16); overflow: auto; =
line-height: 1.45; border-radius: 6px; word-break: normal; min-height: =
52px;"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Helvetica"><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: normal;">Only some =
Emacs 30 builds correctly render this simple stipple. =
&nbsp;</span></font><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
white-space: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;">There =
has been some progress on :stipple support recently, but it remains =
incomplete. &nbsp;To my knowledge, the current situation for :stipple =
support in Emacs 30 is as follows:</span></pre><pre class=3D"notranslate" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
overflow-wrap: normal; padding: var(--base-size-16); overflow: auto; =
line-height: 1.45; border-radius: 6px; word-break: normal; min-height: =
52px;"><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li><font color=3D"#000000" =
face=3D"Helvetica"><span style=3D"white-space: normal;">NS (partially =
working): Commit&nbsp;</span></font><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">ef6ffbdc79 </span><span style=3D"white-space:=
 normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;">from last May =
provided a <i>partial</i> fix, but stipples are black and white only =
(bug#70712)</span></li><li><span style=3D"white-space: normal; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;">Windows (working?): patched in =
June (</span><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Helvetica"><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: =
normal;">bug#71159)</span></font></li><li><font color=3D"#000000" =
face=3D"Helvetica"><span style=3D"white-space: normal;">PGTK (working): =
incorrect stipple display patched July, 2023 =
(bug#64969)</span></font></li><li><font color=3D"#000000" =
face=3D"Helvetica"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
white-space: normal;">GTK, non-Cairo (working): appears to be working =
correctly</span></font></li><li><font color=3D"#000000" =
face=3D"Helvetica"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
white-space: normal;">GTK + Cairo (not working uniformly): Stipples are =
reported to be missing with some Cairo builds of Emacs =
30</span></font></li><li><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Helvetica"><span =
style=3D"white-space: normal;">Other X11 builds (?): Unsure if these are =
supported (but suspect they are given the legacy of =
stipple)</span></font></li></ul></pre><pre class=3D"notranslate" =
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ui-monospace, SFMono-Regular, SF Mono, Menlo, Consolas, Liberation Mono, =
monospace); font-size: 11.9px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
overflow-wrap: normal; padding: var(--base-size-16); overflow: auto; =
line-height: 1.45; color: rgb(5, 12, 20); border-radius: 6px; =
word-break: normal; min-height: 52px; caret-color: rgb(5, 12, =
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color: rgb(5, 12, 20); border-radius: 6px; word-break: normal; =
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Acknowledgement sent to JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#73082; Package emacs. Full text available.
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