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Hello

Note: Sending this a second time, I forgot to confirm my request to
register to the bug-gnu-emacs list.

I am running Linux with kernel 6.6.47 and am running emacs in xterm, using
the -nw command line argument.

I am new to emacs and was experimenting with the suspend-emacs command.
Following the example on
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Suspending-Emacs.html
.

When following the example, I added the suspend-resume-hook to my
.emacs.d/init.el file. When I run M-: (suspend-emacs "pwd") it does not
show the current working directory. But when I do fg from the terminal that
I got into, I see the "Resumed!" message.

I asked in the libera chat about that, and also in the gnu-help-emacs list.
I have been talking to wasamasa on libera chat (#emacs-beginners) and we
pinpointed the problem to the stuff_char function (in
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/sysdep.c#n403). We
came to this point from stuff_buffered_input (
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/keyboard.c#n11963),
and from  suspend-emacs function definition (in
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/keyboard.c#n11908).

The stuff_char function is using ioctl with TIOCSTI. TIOCSTI requires
CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability. You can set this capability using sysctl setting
dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti to 1.

Unless I had set "dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti" to 1 I could not run the
suspend-emacs command with an argument string.

Either emacs can check the return value of ioctl in stuff_char and if there
return value is EPERM, then handle this accordingly, with a message
regarding the problem.

Or the information relating to the kernel version and CAP_SYS_ADMIN can be
added to the infor page os suspend_emacs, along with the information on how
to set this capability using sysctl.

Kind Regards
Riza Dindir

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello</div><div><br></div><div>Note: Sending this a s=
econd time, I forgot to confirm my request to register to the bug-gnu-emacs=
 list.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am running Linux with kernel 6.6.47 a=
nd am running emacs in xterm, using the -nw command line argument.<br></div=
><div><br></div><div>I am new to emacs and was experimenting with the suspe=
nd-emacs command. Following the example on <a href=3D"https://www.gnu.org/s=
oftware/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Suspending-Emacs.html" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Suspending-Ema=
cs.html</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>When following the example, I added t=
he suspend-resume-hook to my .emacs.d/init.el file. When I run <span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold">M-: (suspend-emacs &quot;pwd&quot;)</span>
 it does not show the current working directory. But when I do fg from=20
the terminal that I got into, I see the &quot;Resumed!&quot; message.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I
 asked in the libera chat about that, and also in the gnu-help-emacs=20
list. I have been talking to wasamasa on libera chat (#emacs-beginners)=20
and we pinpointed the problem to the stuff_char function (in <a href=3D"htt=
ps://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/sysdep.c#n403" target=3D"=
_blank">https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/sysdep.c#n403<=
/a>). We came to this point from stuff_buffered_input (<a href=3D"https://g=
it.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/keyboard.c#n11963" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/keyboard.c#n1196=
3</a>), and from=C2=A0 suspend-emacs function definition (in <a href=3D"htt=
ps://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/keyboard.c#n11908" target=
=3D"_blank">https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/src/keyboard.c=
#n11908</a>).</div><div><br></div><div>The stuff_char function is using<spa=
n style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif"> ioctl </span>with
 TIOCSTI. TIOCSTI requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability. You can set this=20
capability using sysctl setting dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti to 1.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Unless I had set &quot;dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti&quot;  to 1 I coul=
d not run the suspend-emacs command with an argument string.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Either
 emacs can check the return value of ioctl in stuff_char and if there=20
return value is EPERM, then handle this accordingly, with a message=20
regarding the problem.</div><div><br></div><div>Or the information=20
relating to the kernel version and CAP_SYS_ADMIN can be added to the=20
infor page os suspend_emacs, along with the information on how to set=20
this capability using sysctl.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards</div><f=
ont color=3D"#888888"><div>Riza Dindir</div></font></div>

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merge 73101 73100
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> From: Riza Dindir <riza.dindir@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:34:45 +0300
> 
> Note: Sending this a second time, I forgot to confirm my request to register to the bug-gnu-emacs list.

That was a mistake, because by doing that you have created an
identical copy of the first bug report.

I'm now merging them.

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> From: Riza Dindir <riza.dindir@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:34:45 +0300
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> Note: Sending this a second time, I forgot to confirm my request to register to the bug-gnu-emacs list.

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I apologize for the duplicate.

On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 18:22 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> merge 73101 73100
> thanks
>
> > From: Riza Dindir <riza.dindir@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:34:45 +0300
> >
> > Note: Sending this a second time, I forgot to confirm my request to
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<div dir=3D"auto">I apologize for the duplicate.</div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 18:22 =
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e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">merge 73101 73100<br>
thanks<br>
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&gt; From: Riza Dindir &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:riza.dindir@HIDDEN" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">riza.dindir@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:34:45 +0300<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Note: Sending this a second time, I forgot to confirm my request to re=
gister to the bug-gnu-emacs list.<br>
<br>
That was a mistake, because by doing that you have created an<br>
identical copy of the first bug report.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m now merging them.<br>
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