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When using the Emacs cooperative threading system in a new project, I
noticed that calling C-g results in quitting the background thread I
create, even when those threads are yielded.

Sending this as a bug report per Eli Zaretskii's mention that it may not
be expected behavior
(https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/1fbkkii/comment/lm3boja/).

Repro recipe:
- emacs -Q
- `C-x 3` and run `list-threads` in the new window, then return to the
older window
- `M-:` `(make-thread (lambda () (cl-loop while t do (progn
(thread-yield) (sleep-for 30)))))` and wait for the new thread to yield to
the main thread.
- `C-g`. The new thread disappears from the `list-threads` window.


Note: While I am admittedly on Windows, given this behavior is within the
cooperative threads of the Emacs runtime (rather than actual Windows
threads) I *really* doubt that has anything to do with it.

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Subject: bug#73131: 28.2; Yielded threads get killed on C-g
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Swapneil Singh <swapneil.singh@HIDDEN> writes:

> When using the Emacs cooperative threading system in a new project, I
> noticed that calling C-g results in quitting the background thread I
> create, even when those threads are yielded.
>
> Sending this as a bug report per Eli Zaretskii's mention that it may not
> be expected behavior
> (https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/1fbkkii/comment/lm3boja/).
>
> Repro recipe:
> - emacs -Q
> - `C-x 3` and run `list-threads` in the new window, then return to the
> older window
> - `M-:` `(make-thread (lambda () (cl-loop while t do (progn
> (thread-yield) (sleep-for 30)))))` and wait for the new thread to yield to
> the main thread.
> - `C-g`. The new thread disappears from the `list-threads` window.
>
>
> Note: While I am admittedly on Windows, given this behavior is within the
> cooperative threads of the Emacs runtime (rather than actual Windows
> threads) I *really* doubt that has anything to do with it.

Data point: I might be doing something different but I can't reproduce
this here on emacs-29.4 nor on emacs30 on GNU/Linux.

  Andrea

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> From: Swapneil Singh <swapneil.singh@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 12:08:00 -0400
> 
> When using the Emacs cooperative threading system in a new project, I
> noticed that calling C-g results in quitting the background thread I
> create, even when those threads are yielded.
> 
> Sending this as a bug report per Eli Zaretskii's mention that it may not
> be expected behavior
> (https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/1fbkkii/comment/lm3boja/).
> 
> Repro recipe:
> - emacs -Q
> - `C-x 3` and run `list-threads` in the new window, then return to the
> older window
> - `M-:` `(make-thread (lambda () (cl-loop while t do (progn
> (thread-yield) (sleep-for 30)))))` and wait for the new thread to yield to
> the main thread.
> - `C-g`. The new thread disappears from the `list-threads` window.
> 
> 
> Note: While I am admittedly on Windows, given this behavior is within the
> cooperative threads of the Emacs runtime (rather than actual Windows
> threads) I *really* doubt that has anything to do with it.

Actually, your being on MS-Windows does explain what you see, because
the way C-g is processed is system-dependent.  When I said "this is
not supposed to happen", I assumed you were doing this on GNU/Linux or
another Posix platform.

Indeed, on MS-Windows this is expected behavior: pressing C-g in the
above scenario will set the quit-flag, and the loop will then quit.
To prevent that, you need to use this simple technique:

  (make-thread
   (lambda ()
     (let ((inhibit-quit t))  ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
       (cl-loop
	while t do
	(progn
	  (thread-yield)
	  (sleep-for 30))))))

Btw, my recommendation is to bind inhibit-quit non-nil around the
thread functions in all cases, if you want background thread to never
be interrupted by C-g and the like.

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inhibit-quit works great, thanks for the fix!

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> > From: Swapneil Singh <swapneil.singh@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 12:08:00 -0400
> >
> > When using the Emacs cooperative threading system in a new project, I
> > noticed that calling C-g results in quitting the background thread I
> > create, even when those threads are yielded.
> >
> > Sending this as a bug report per Eli Zaretskii's mention that it may no=
t
> > be expected behavior
> > (https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/1fbkkii/comment/lm3boja/).
> >
> > Repro recipe:
> > - emacs -Q
> > - `C-x 3` and run `list-threads` in the new window, then return to the
> > older window
> > - `M-:` `(make-thread (lambda () (cl-loop while t do (progn
> > (thread-yield) (sleep-for 30)))))` and wait for the new thread to yield=
 to
> > the main thread.
> > - `C-g`. The new thread disappears from the `list-threads` window.
> >
> >
> > Note: While I am admittedly on Windows, given this behavior is within t=
he
> > cooperative threads of the Emacs runtime (rather than actual Windows
> > threads) I *really* doubt that has anything to do with it.
>
> Actually, your being on MS-Windows does explain what you see, because
> the way C-g is processed is system-dependent.  When I said "this is
> not supposed to happen", I assumed you were doing this on GNU/Linux or
> another Posix platform.
>
> Indeed, on MS-Windows this is expected behavior: pressing C-g in the
> above scenario will set the quit-flag, and the loop will then quit.
> To prevent that, you need to use this simple technique:
>
>   (make-thread
>    (lambda ()
>      (let ((inhibit-quit t))  ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>        (cl-loop
>         while t do
>         (progn
>           (thread-yield)
>           (sleep-for 30))))))
>
> Btw, my recommendation is to bind inhibit-quit non-nil around the
> thread functions in all cases, if you want background thread to never
> be interrupted by C-g and the like.

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