X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#7339: 23.2; term-mode vs clone-buffer Resent-From: Kevin Ryde <user42@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 22:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.7339.B.12889961005785 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7339 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.12889961005785 (code B ref -1); Fri, 05 Nov 2010 22:29:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2010 22:28:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1PEUlf-0001VG-My for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:28:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <gg@HIDDEN>) id 1PEUld-0001VB-TR for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:28:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <gg@HIDDEN>) id 1PEUpz-0007C4-VU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:32:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:57660) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <gg@HIDDEN>) id 1PEUpz-0007Bw-TB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:32:47 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44310 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PEUpy-00076b-Tq for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:32:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <gg@HIDDEN>) id 1PEUpx-0007BG-Mk for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:32:46 -0400 Received: from mailout2-5.pacific.net.au ([61.8.2.228]:47281 helo=mailout2.pacific.net.au) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <gg@HIDDEN>) id 1PEUpx-0007AL-Dj for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:32:45 -0400 Received: from mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (mailproxy1.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.162]) by mailout2.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705302A6332 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:32:42 +1100 (EST) Received: from blah.blah (unknown [203.26.175.99]) by mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3EE8C07 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:32:36 +1100 (EST) Received: from gg by blah.blah with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <gg@HIDDEN>) id 1PEUp3-0001dN-4h for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:31:49 +1100 From: Kevin Ryde <user42@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:31:49 +1100 Message-ID: <8739rftnai.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) A term-mode buffer doesn't seem to duplicate with M-x clone-buffer very well. For example emacs -Q M-x term top Ret ;; run the "top" program C-c M-x clone-buffer => gets multiple inserts of the top output where I hoped the cloned buffer would have refreshing top output, instead of appending and growing the buffer. Nosing around the code it looks like clone-buffer runs up a new subprocess well enough, but that presumably something in the `term-mode' setups doesn't come out right. A line-oriented program like the default /bin/bash that M-x term offers seems a bit better, though point isn't left at the end of the new prompt. In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0) of 2010-05-16 on raven, modified by Debian configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS='' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_AU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t
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