GNU bug report logs - #73613
texlive packages such as texlive-luatex are not reproducible

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Package: guix; Severity: important; Reported by: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>; merged with #48064, #48455; dated Thu, 3 Oct 2024 12:20:01 UTC; Maintainer for guix is bug-guix@HIDDEN.

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To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#73613: texlive-luatex is not reproducible
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Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> This was discovered building texlive-luatex twice (--rounds=2 -K);
>> diffoscope shows that:
>>
>
> [...]
>
>> These are apparently time stamps as well as UUIDs.  Debian [0, 1] and
>> NixOS [1] have patched some of them using faketime and substitute [0].
>>
>> We should follow suite.
>>
>> [0]  https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/blob/master/examples/hooks/reproducible/2006-reproducible-texlive-binaries-fmt-files.hook.chroot
>> [1]  https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/227873
>
> This is difficult to follow, because Debian and NixOS do not seem to
> apply the same fixes. For example, the former wraps "faketime" around
> "tex -ini tex.ini" call whereas the latter wraps it around
> "fmtutil-sys --all" call.
>
> By the way, how do you call "faketime" from (guix build-system texlive)?
> It is not possible to use (gnu packages check) module from there, isn't
> it?

You'd have to add it to the implicit inputs defined for the build
system.

> Note that Guix never runs "mtxrun --generate", so I don't think UUIDs
> are a problem in our case.

OK.  I'm afraid don't have more insights than what I had shared already
:-).

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim
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Hello,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes:

> This was discovered building texlive-luatex twice (--rounds=2 -K);
> diffoscope shows that:
>

[...]

> These are apparently time stamps as well as UUIDs.  Debian [0, 1] and
> NixOS [1] have patched some of them using faketime and substitute [0].
>
> We should follow suite.
>
> [0]  https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/blob/master/examples/hooks/reproducible/2006-reproducible-texlive-binaries-fmt-files.hook.chroot
> [1]  https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/227873

This is difficult to follow, because Debian and NixOS do not seem to
apply the same fixes. For example, the former wraps "faketime" around
"tex -ini tex.ini" call whereas the latter wraps it around
"fmtutil-sys --all" call.

By the way, how do you call "faketime" from (guix build-system texlive)?
It is not possible to use (gnu packages check) module from there, isn't
it?

Note that Guix never runs "mtxrun --generate", so I don't think UUIDs
are a problem in our case.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou
Information forwarded to bug-guix@HIDDEN:
bug#73613; Package guix. Full text available.
Merged 48064 48455 73613. Request was from Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.
Severity set to 'important' from 'normal' Request was from Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.
Changed bug title to 'texlive packages such as texlive-luatex are not reproducible' from 'texlive-luatex is not reproducible' Request was from Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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Acknowledgement sent to Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-guix@HIDDEN:
bug#73613; Package guix. Full text available.
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