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Emacs-pgtk doesnt seem to receive numpad events, instead number events
are received.
There was a thread about this on emacs-help:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2024-10/msg00094.html
I have attempted to summarize the thread here, wherein Stefan Monier
recomended I report this as a bug, and I also received knowledgeable
advice from several others.
Heres the bug:
I used to use a numpad to bind to do things in emacs.
This used to work really well on the i3wm window manager and a gtk emacs
build.
Then I bought a nice new framework laptop which has a hidpi screen, so I
switched to using the sway wm, and emacs-pgtk.
Now the numpad no longer sends keypad events in a way that emacs
recognizes, instead just plain numbers are received.
below is an example of the code I use, but normally I just test with c-h
k to see which key emacs receives.
I also tried xev, and there it seems I get kp events, at least under
xwayland I guess.
(define-key cider-mode-map (kbd "<kp-enter>") 'sylt-stop)
(define-key cider-mode-map (kbd "<kp-separator>") 'sylt-play-metro)
(defmacro sylt-song-event-map-key (key num)
`(define-key cider-mode-map (kbd ,key)
(lambda () (interactive) (cider-nrepl-sync-request:eval
,(concat "(sylt.core/song-event \"" num "\")")))))
(sylt-song-event-map-key "<kp-0>" "init")
(sylt-song-event-map-key "<kp-1>" "1")
Instead of xev, I tried wev, and got this, which seems expected:
Using wev, installed from Fedora repos I get, for numpad 4, and normal 4:
[14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 60293; time: 61646320; key: 83; state: 0
(released)
sym: KP_4 (65460), utf8: ''
[14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 60294; time: 61651642; key: 13; state: 1
(pressed)
sym: 4 (52), utf8: '4'
That is, the numpad and the number pad sends distinct events that are
received by wev.
using (read-key) in emacs-pgtk, both the numpad and the number row are
received as the same event:
52 (#o64, #x34, ?4) [2 times]
I get the same in a emacs gtk session.
Maybe gtk is doing something weird?
so now I tried emacs-29.4-gtk+x11 -Q
and then I get "4 (translated from <kp-4>)"
on c-h k, numpad 4, so xwayland is doing something correctly in this
case, which pgtk isnt doing in the same way(imho incorrectly but what do
I know)
(and as a reminder, I run emacs-pgtk because it looks super nice on
wayland, with the scaling hints I use on my framework hidpi screen, but
emacs-29.4-gtk+x11 doesnt look good.)
/Joakim
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> From: joakim@HIDDEN
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:35:48 +0200
>
>
> Emacs-pgtk doesnt seem to receive numpad events, instead number events
> are received.
>
> There was a thread about this on emacs-help:
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2024-10/msg00094.html
>
> I have attempted to summarize the thread here, wherein Stefan Monier
> recomended I report this as a bug, and I also received knowledgeable
> advice from several others.
>
> Heres the bug:
>
> I used to use a numpad to bind to do things in emacs.
>
> This used to work really well on the i3wm window manager and a gtk emacs
> build.
>
> Then I bought a nice new framework laptop which has a hidpi screen, so I
> switched to using the sway wm, and emacs-pgtk.
>
> Now the numpad no longer sends keypad events in a way that emacs
> recognizes, instead just plain numbers are received.
>
> below is an example of the code I use, but normally I just test with c-h
> k to see which key emacs receives.
>
> I also tried xev, and there it seems I get kp events, at least under
> xwayland I guess.
>
> (define-key cider-mode-map (kbd "<kp-enter>") 'sylt-stop)
> (define-key cider-mode-map (kbd "<kp-separator>") 'sylt-play-metro)
>
> (defmacro sylt-song-event-map-key (key num)
> `(define-key cider-mode-map (kbd ,key)
> (lambda () (interactive) (cider-nrepl-sync-request:eval
> ,(concat "(sylt.core/song-event \"" num "\")")))))
>
>
>
> (sylt-song-event-map-key "<kp-0>" "init")
> (sylt-song-event-map-key "<kp-1>" "1")
>
>
> Instead of xev, I tried wev, and got this, which seems expected:
>
> Using wev, installed from Fedora repos I get, for numpad 4, and normal 4:
>
> [14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 60293; time: 61646320; key: 83; state: 0
> (released)
> sym: KP_4 (65460), utf8: ''
> [14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 60294; time: 61651642; key: 13; state: 1
> (pressed)
> sym: 4 (52), utf8: '4'
>
> That is, the numpad and the number pad sends distinct events that are
> received by wev.
>
> using (read-key) in emacs-pgtk, both the numpad and the number row are
> received as the same event:
>
> 52 (#o64, #x34, ?4) [2 times]
>
> I get the same in a emacs gtk session.
>
> Maybe gtk is doing something weird?
>
> so now I tried emacs-29.4-gtk+x11 -Q
>
> and then I get "4 (translated from <kp-4>)"
> on c-h k, numpad 4, so xwayland is doing something correctly in this
> case, which pgtk isnt doing in the same way(imho incorrectly but what do
> I know)
>
> (and as a reminder, I run emacs-pgtk because it looks super nice on
> wayland, with the scaling hints I use on my framework hidpi screen, but
> emacs-29.4-gtk+x11 doesnt look good.)
Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
under PGTK? If so, should we add something to etc/PROBLEMS?
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
> under PGTK? If so, should we add something to etc/PROBLEMS?
I'm not sure. I will try to establish whether it is.
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: joakim@HIDDEN
>> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:35:48 +0200
>>
>>
>> Emacs-pgtk doesnt seem to receive numpad events, instead number events
>> are received.
>>
>> There was a thread about this on emacs-help:
>>
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2024-10/msg00094.html
>>
>> I have attempted to summarize the thread here, wherein Stefan Monier
>> recomended I report this as a bug, and I also received knowledgeable
>> advice from several others.
>>
>> Heres the bug:
>>
>> I used to use a numpad to bind to do things in emacs.
>>
>> This used to work really well on the i3wm window manager and a gtk emacs
>> build.
>>
>> Then I bought a nice new framework laptop which has a hidpi screen, so I
>> switched to using the sway wm, and emacs-pgtk.
>>
>> Now the numpad no longer sends keypad events in a way that emacs
>> recognizes, instead just plain numbers are received.
>>
>> below is an example of the code I use, but normally I just test with c-h
>> k to see which key emacs receives.
>>
>> I also tried xev, and there it seems I get kp events, at least under
>> xwayland I guess.
>>
>> (define-key cider-mode-map (kbd "<kp-enter>") 'sylt-stop)
>> (define-key cider-mode-map (kbd "<kp-separator>") 'sylt-play-metro)
>>
>> (defmacro sylt-song-event-map-key (key num)
>> `(define-key cider-mode-map (kbd ,key)
>> (lambda () (interactive) (cider-nrepl-sync-request:eval
>> ,(concat "(sylt.core/song-event \"" num "\")")))))
>>
>>
>>
>> (sylt-song-event-map-key "<kp-0>" "init")
>> (sylt-song-event-map-key "<kp-1>" "1")
>>
>>
>> Instead of xev, I tried wev, and got this, which seems expected:
>>
>> Using wev, installed from Fedora repos I get, for numpad 4, and normal 4:
>>
>> [14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 60293; time: 61646320; key: 83; state: 0
>> (released)
>> sym: KP_4 (65460), utf8: ''
>> [14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 60294; time: 61651642; key: 13; state: 1
>> (pressed)
>> sym: 4 (52), utf8: '4'
>>
>> That is, the numpad and the number pad sends distinct events that are
>> received by wev.
>>
>> using (read-key) in emacs-pgtk, both the numpad and the number row are
>> received as the same event:
>>
>> 52 (#o64, #x34, ?4) [2 times]
>>
>> I get the same in a emacs gtk session.
>>
>> Maybe gtk is doing something weird?
>>
>> so now I tried emacs-29.4-gtk+x11 -Q
>>
>> and then I get "4 (translated from <kp-4>)"
>> on c-h k, numpad 4, so xwayland is doing something correctly in this
>> case, which pgtk isnt doing in the same way(imho incorrectly but what do
>> I know)
>>
>> (and as a reminder, I run emacs-pgtk because it looks super nice on
>> wayland, with the scaling hints I use on my framework hidpi screen, but
>> emacs-29.4-gtk+x11 doesnt look good.)
>
> Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
> under PGTK? If so, should we add something to etc/PROBLEMS?
FYI I found a "workaround" to this problem. I now run Sway with scaling of
1 rather than 1.25.
Then I have to scale each application independently, so I set the
corresponding scale factor in sway window decorations, waybar, firefox
etc.
(the problem with this aproach is that a number of x11 apps cant be scaled)
Lastly in emacs I just scale the fonts and run emacs-gtk-x11. Now things
work adequately.
emacs-pgtk has other interesting features, but I guess they will have to
wait a while more.
Thanks everyone!
>
>
>
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>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> > Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
> > under PGTK? If so, should we add something to etc/PROBLEMS?
>
> I'm not sure. I will try to establish whether it is.
Any progress here?
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> > > Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
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>
> Any progress here?
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Ping! Ping!
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> Ping!
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> > Cc: 74016 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joakim@HIDDEN
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> > > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
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> > > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 21:34:31 +0800
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> > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> > > > Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
> > > > under PGTK? If so, should we add something to etc/PROBLEMS?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure. I will try to establish whether it is.
> >
> > Any progress here?
> >
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Ping! Ping! Ping! Po Lu, please respond.
> Cc: 74016 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joakim@HIDDEN
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> Ping! Ping!
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> > Cc: 74016 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joakim@HIDDEN
> > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 11:53:35 +0200
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> >
> > Ping!
> >
> > > Cc: 74016 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joakim@HIDDEN
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:45:58 +0200
> > > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> > >
> > > > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> > > > Cc: joakim@HIDDEN, 74016 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 21:34:31 +0800
> > > >
> > > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Po Lu, is this another manifestation of problems with keyboard input
> > > > > under PGTK? If so, should we add something to etc/PROBLEMS?
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure. I will try to establish whether it is.
> > >
> > > Any progress here?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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