Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2025 16:29:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 11:29:58 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tgniQ-0007po-3F for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2025 11:29:58 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]:58674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tgniN-0007pe-7p for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2025 11:29:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1739032194; bh=f//GwMpQZHgp3b/hxLnkpr2eQL989iSWhUNtPetCYzM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=piNM1BunIL0lqP12jxRlHeR5totOXvOxd8dAKiHJSKPbULAqMbTQPfzHR8xSjT/CR trW3bgXNqPORzODaPaKYJwwLX345cLFSDX6ytRqE6ry3+USecBS/Sz67nlYvn701rP 7nMuN0wXbyzLlyKqXMj4EZ7WagIC8srq0HnnLdLhMdhu/NPuTq0P6tDTY0UrFTaRCn 7Oa+/SaEwhIeh03mSuG4wgXslpgscpAtpv7XpoSdMkwGkpP4UZ0vB87aIMVLaOfd06 RVDm5uTG6mu8QlyHENxCgHKx08fte1F7dztKNn1Tiw9taZSRRqdweDJ+XF7Jb6oDLG EDNT+rKBXWXXw== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11C7E55A; Sat, 8 Feb 2025 16:29:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2025 08:29:53 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <86o71ngukz.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> <865xo7cdpv.fsf@HIDDEN> <a0ea4f824292808131cff24091eb7c0c@HIDDEN> <86y112bim0.fsf@HIDDEN> <889037a6131ad45d7e5dfb69e119c060@HIDDEN> <86a5dhb3mx.fsf@HIDDEN> <86r06jisd7.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9be40ff4a33ac327ace9baf28ce4010@HIDDEN> <86o71ngukz.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <e86f8bdcbf2ac68fbc8bf0fb4e21cbcb@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2024-12-07 11:29, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 11:14:46 -0800 >> From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> >> Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, >> stephen.berman@HIDDEN, >> 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN >> >> People on the Linux kernel mailing list agree this is a regression on >> Linux and that my suggested fix is probably appropriate. Tracking >> page: >> https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/regression/lore/CAG48ez0vg9W=oatvEqxvTSYNUx7htY23LxPrYCiuLZhZQuaGjg@HIDDEN/ > > Thanks, let's hope they will fix this soon. An update: A fix will go out with Linux 6.14. I am building the kernel locally to confirm the fix. How do we want to note this issue in Emacs' release notes, if at all? -- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
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Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2024 19:29:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 14:29:59 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48581 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tK0V4-0006kL-RV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:29:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tK0V2-0006k7-Fr for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:29:57 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tK0Uw-000884-GB; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:29:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RodRXepDa6fqs+NavnY4JHgsTgqils1T7zIjlCsC07c=; b=gfIiZPTXBBsL /dTdrTvRye+gdicTGJazA73Gb/LJUVlTaeAE2oIiZ+H/unM0/ejRgGrhF/y+rGtl2PuGNNLDxyqj0 qsDpx2RH5KEtqGJbb1Kj1ivo92/7XM2bxwE4YXG6Z8gi4NRU4TcVPugonOoaGwnnhQOQJvhpYMN/z 00zD8K2cr8C3hB9GvyfdGxbxNxBoYa5rCq1ayV1iLDfdGqHjBZG+mfs1cF1zpHIHqCp08lBdag0Jw 5s19wdIoIMHNdP0Z5T0+eaoBE6Gn2qGpTnaUzA3Z2lt3YE0pdEb6qh2F3KsL2r6cnri6TclSP233/ 0lIvIZCrFO02iBjDEz/j1w==; Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 21:29:48 +0200 Message-Id: <86o71ngukz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <b9be40ff4a33ac327ace9baf28ce4010@HIDDEN> (message from Jared Finder on Sat, 07 Dec 2024 11:14:46 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> <865xo7cdpv.fsf@HIDDEN> <a0ea4f824292808131cff24091eb7c0c@HIDDEN> <86y112bim0.fsf@HIDDEN> <889037a6131ad45d7e5dfb69e119c060@HIDDEN> <86a5dhb3mx.fsf@HIDDEN> <86r06jisd7.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9be40ff4a33ac327ace9baf28ce4010@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 11:14:46 -0800 > From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> > Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, > 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN > > People on the Linux kernel mailing list agree this is a regression on > Linux and that my suggested fix is probably appropriate. Tracking page: > https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/regression/lore/CAG48ez0vg9W=oatvEqxvTSYNUx7htY23LxPrYCiuLZhZQuaGjg@HIDDEN/ Thanks, let's hope they will fix this soon.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2024 19:14:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 14:14:51 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tK0GR-00061S-DH for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:14:51 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]:34290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tK0GN-00061A-PH for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:14:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1733598886; bh=dUYSujJ4JzG/LV8h0OBurxdcoKd213AJr0dAF/5Z0uM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=rSSXXJ6s9EgO8mSLMsfd0TFRjlV3Xy719jFSn0FvjeaXfb6J2O1mDvDeqNaWQF8Q7 doMGsdebhRCdl8kzX7p1ng223pnVQrYKXo1eaEVakxpE0K8jsPdkuSWddFsP+doUho wwNbVKtTCJR+ip+xP0hGSsAMbxoJsvXoTbOhihVq1kR/Dl6M/Rt85NNWbf+agbNHMN ZjqDbNGND3gkLS6Ex/w2j1ip51h/0RiScNUZpEn3YzB5HFnEwntWhvKBc/tGobGNDu 8fhJvugpMInHq2UrmphXxg3rUVOoaLX9H9DUedlBBjyVT1EavFB8e8hqa6T4bFdNz1 vWBrsxVOMejBw== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92847133A; Sat, 7 Dec 2024 19:14:46 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 11:14:46 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <86r06jisd7.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> <865xo7cdpv.fsf@HIDDEN> <a0ea4f824292808131cff24091eb7c0c@HIDDEN> <86y112bim0.fsf@HIDDEN> <889037a6131ad45d7e5dfb69e119c060@HIDDEN> <86a5dhb3mx.fsf@HIDDEN> <86r06jisd7.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <b9be40ff4a33ac327ace9baf28ce4010@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2024-12-07 04:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, >> stephen.berman@HIDDEN, >> 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN >> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:08:06 +0200 >> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> >> >> > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:12:39 -0800 >> > From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> >> > Cc: stephen.berman@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, >> > 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN >> > >> > I think Emacs is a special snowflake in that it doesn't (possibly >> > can't?) rely on the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer. I did not see >> > any other app with this problem. I tested Vim, Midnight Commander, Nano, >> > and Bash. I don't know what is special about Emacs here. Perhaps the >> > character under the mouse pointer is treated special in redisplay? Not >> > sure. >> >> Emacs needs to know where the mouse pointer is, and the rest it can >> figure out by itself. So if the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer >> allows to know the pointer coordinates in a way that can be correlated >> with the rows and column of the console, we should be okay. >> >> Maybe when the GPM support for Emacs was written, the daemon couldn't >> be used for drawing the pointer? >> >> Anyway, one way to try to solve this is to try to use the >> daemon-drawing of the mouse pointer. >> >> > I will reach out to the kernel mailing list and see if they are ok >> > relaxing the check and fixing this on their end. >> >> Thanks. > > Any progress here? People on the Linux kernel mailing list agree this is a regression on Linux and that my suggested fix is probably appropriate. Tracking page: https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/regression/lore/CAG48ez0vg9W=oatvEqxvTSYNUx7htY23LxPrYCiuLZhZQuaGjg@HIDDEN/ -- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2024 12:34:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 07:34:55 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tJu1P-0002O8-3M for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 07:34:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tJu1M-0002Nq-RP for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 07:34:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tJu1H-000380-9B; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 07:34:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MJisJAeckKD8+aM39Vh4FURBnGHZLOLP5yJM0cUkjQo=; b=cRC6tiSbMMHV fhV9Pl7eLDDf4cMBKb4ryNOOZHPoBH70DaibsWCyL1XWqmUnHaKY0vAU7QNsdk/vih8z6L4embUhb GLyRvRQESx8Ln7jCoqJZ4Cl+tOnn+TMSDf86s/WLsaxJq6Cy3Tny75ioH8ypWag4MpH/fOCCQfK/5 FkoT2Ikht3UnGbJaq53qg7wz2lO2PzaGt74IZHdqZmUHZp5adyYzZCzM3uG8vuEKhMAKxa52Lrpuv djYyRKeuR91Zl4iEfpX1wrm4Ydh+G5w2VhjWBGvdha2Ze7F6R8rlMgXoUiTebir283NP8iKAqj5gG NXTHfeYjbTX4zoBoK13fKQ==; Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:34:44 +0200 Message-Id: <86r06jisd7.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: jared@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <86a5dhb3mx.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:08:06 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> <865xo7cdpv.fsf@HIDDEN> <a0ea4f824292808131cff24091eb7c0c@HIDDEN> <86y112bim0.fsf@HIDDEN> <889037a6131ad45d7e5dfb69e119c060@HIDDEN> <86a5dhb3mx.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, > 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:08:06 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:12:39 -0800 > > From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> > > Cc: stephen.berman@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, > > 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN > > > > I think Emacs is a special snowflake in that it doesn't (possibly > > can't?) rely on the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer. I did not see > > any other app with this problem. I tested Vim, Midnight Commander, Nano, > > and Bash. I don't know what is special about Emacs here. Perhaps the > > character under the mouse pointer is treated special in redisplay? Not > > sure. > > Emacs needs to know where the mouse pointer is, and the rest it can > figure out by itself. So if the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer > allows to know the pointer coordinates in a way that can be correlated > with the rows and column of the console, we should be okay. > > Maybe when the GPM support for Emacs was written, the daemon couldn't > be used for drawing the pointer? > > Anyway, one way to try to solve this is to try to use the > daemon-drawing of the mouse pointer. > > > I will reach out to the kernel mailing list and see if they are ok > > relaxing the check and fixing this on their end. > > Thanks. Any progress here?
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On 2024-11-28 23:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:45:49 -0800
>> From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: stephen.berman@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN,
>> gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN
>>
>> >> But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous
>> >> capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay
>> >> on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on
>> >> other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended.
>> >
>> > Let's first understand the problem better.
>> >
>> > (And I'm guessing that by "cursor" you mean "mouse pointer"?)
>>
>> Here's some more specifics:
>>
>> Emacs draws the mouse pointer in handle_one_term_event in term.c. It
>> does this by calling GPM_DrawPointer() with the intended x and y. This
>> code is pretty old, a blame says it was from 2007.
>>
>> GPM_DrawPointer is just a macro, see the GitHub mirror:
>> https://github.com/telmich/gpm/blob/master/src/headers/gpm.h#L235.
>> This
>> calls a Linux ioctl() to draw the cursor. This code is also pretty
>> old,
>> a blame says it was from 2005.
>>
>> The Linux ioctl() is called as follows, if it used symbolic constants
>> and a struct instead of magic byte values:
>>
>> struct {
>> char subcode;
>> short xs, ys, xe, ye;
>> short sel_mode;
>> } gpmbuf;
>>
>> gpmbuf.subcode = TIOCL_SETSEL; // 2
>> gpmbuf.xs = gpmbuf.xe = x;
>> gpmbuf.ys = gpmbuf.ye = y;
>> gpmbuf.selmode = TIOCL_SELPOINTER; //3
>> ioctl(fd, TIOCLINUX, &gpmbuf);
>
> Thanks. I think I see a far-away light at the end of the tunnel, but
> I'm not yet sure whether it's daylight or the proverbial train.
> What's missing in the above is the relation to "kernel selection
> buffer". I'm guessing that TIOCL_SETSEL is "setting the kernel
> selection buffer", given its name, but I'm not sure.
Yes, exactly.
The same TIOCL_SETSEL is also used for actually setting the selection.
If selmode is TIOCL_SELCHAR, TIOCL_SELWORD, or TIOCL_SELLINE then the
region from start to end is copied into a kernel-level buffer that can
be pasted with TIOCL_PASTESEL.
The same TIOCL_SETSEL is also used for changes that appear to be
completely unrelated to the kernel managed selection buffer. Namely the
following three modes: TIOCL_SELPOINTER, TIOCL_SELCLEAR (it only
controls visuals), TIOCL_SELMOUSEREPORT (it reports the selection start
coordinate).
>> This adds one other solution -- I could see if it is reasonable for
>> the
>> Linux kernel to not protect TIOCL_SELPOINTER while protecting the rest
>> of TIOCL_SETSEL. I'm a bit nervous here as I don't understand the
>> security implications of SELPOINTER vs other selections, though on
>> first
>> glance it seems reasonable.
>
> I actually wonder about something else: did the kernel developers
> _intend_ to break mouse pointer drawing by GPM? or maybe they intend
> to deprecate GPM as a whole? I mean, Emacs is presumably not the only
> application that uses GPM, and what you describe above is part of GPM
> code, right? So GPM should be now broken for all the other
> applications as well, right?
GPM was explicitly intended to be supported from the Linux kernel
discussions.
https://lwn.net/ml/kernel-hardening/2023082203-slackness-sworn-2c80@gregkh/.
I think Emacs is a special snowflake in that it doesn't (possibly
can't?) rely on the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer. I did not see
any other app with this problem. I tested Vim, Midnight Commander, Nano,
and Bash. I don't know what is special about Emacs here. Perhaps the
character under the mouse pointer is treated special in redisplay? Not
sure.
I will reach out to the kernel mailing list and see if they are ok
relaxing the check and fixing this on their end.
-- MJF
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> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:45:49 -0800
> From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN>
> Cc: stephen.berman@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN,
> gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN
>
> On 2024-11-28 12:20, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I don't follow: what does setting the kernel selection buffer
> > have to do with showing the cursor? And how is it related to GPM?
> > What am I missing here?
> >
> >> But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous
> >> capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay
> >> on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on
> >> other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended.
> >
> > Let's first understand the problem better.
> >
> > (And I'm guessing that by "cursor" you mean "mouse pointer"?)
>
> Here's some more specifics:
>
> Emacs draws the mouse pointer in handle_one_term_event in term.c. It
> does this by calling GPM_DrawPointer() with the intended x and y. This
> code is pretty old, a blame says it was from 2007.
>
> GPM_DrawPointer is just a macro, see the GitHub mirror:
> https://github.com/telmich/gpm/blob/master/src/headers/gpm.h#L235. This
> calls a Linux ioctl() to draw the cursor. This code is also pretty old,
> a blame says it was from 2005.
>
> The Linux ioctl() is called as follows, if it used symbolic constants
> and a struct instead of magic byte values:
>
> struct {
> char subcode;
> short xs, ys, xe, ye;
> short sel_mode;
> } gpmbuf;
>
> gpmbuf.subcode = TIOCL_SETSEL; // 2
> gpmbuf.xs = gpmbuf.xe = x;
> gpmbuf.ys = gpmbuf.ye = y;
> gpmbuf.selmode = TIOCL_SELPOINTER; //3
> ioctl(fd, TIOCLINUX, &gpmbuf);
Thanks. I think I see a far-away light at the end of the tunnel, but
I'm not yet sure whether it's daylight or the proverbial train.
What's missing in the above is the relation to "kernel selection
buffer". I'm guessing that TIOCL_SETSEL is "setting the kernel
selection buffer", given its name, but I'm not sure.
> This adds one other solution -- I could see if it is reasonable for the
> Linux kernel to not protect TIOCL_SELPOINTER while protecting the rest
> of TIOCL_SETSEL. I'm a bit nervous here as I don't understand the
> security implications of SELPOINTER vs other selections, though on first
> glance it seems reasonable.
I actually wonder about something else: did the kernel developers
_intend_ to break mouse pointer drawing by GPM? or maybe they intend
to deprecate GPM as a whole? I mean, Emacs is presumably not the only
application that uses GPM, and what you describe above is part of GPM
code, right? So GPM should be now broken for all the other
applications as well, right?
A related question is how many Emacs users are there nowadays who run
Emacs on the Linux console and use the mouse?
If the Linux kernel developers intend to deprecate/drop GPM, and/or
GPM use in Emacs on the Linux console is not popular enough, we could
just document the need for CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability, and move on. (We
should add that to PROBLEMS anyway, because people might be using past
Emacs versions where nothing else will work.)
Of course, if there's a better method of fixing this, we should try
it. But since AFAIU the mouse pointer is drawn by GPM itself (am I
right?), it sounds like the fix should be done by GPM developers, no?
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On 2024-11-28 12:20, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800
>> From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army
>> knife of
>> text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim
>> <rpluim@HIDDEN>,
>> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii
>> <eliz@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas
>> <ampinkas@HIDDEN>
>>
>> This was an intentional change to Linux 6.7 to avoid a potential
>> privilege escalation. Specifically, apps without the capability
>> CAP_SYS_ADMIN are no longer able to set the kernel selection buffer.
>> Across Emacs versions, granting the Emacs binary the CAP_SYS_ADMIN
>> capability (sudo setcap cap_sys_admin+ep path/to/emacs) fixes the
>> issue.
>
> Sorry, I don't follow: what does setting the kernel selection buffer
> have to do with showing the cursor? And how is it related to GPM?
> What am I missing here?
>
>> But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous
>> capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay
>> on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on
>> other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended.
>
> Let's first understand the problem better.
>
> (And I'm guessing that by "cursor" you mean "mouse pointer"?)
Here's some more specifics:
Emacs draws the mouse pointer in handle_one_term_event in term.c. It
does this by calling GPM_DrawPointer() with the intended x and y. This
code is pretty old, a blame says it was from 2007.
GPM_DrawPointer is just a macro, see the GitHub mirror:
https://github.com/telmich/gpm/blob/master/src/headers/gpm.h#L235. This
calls a Linux ioctl() to draw the cursor. This code is also pretty old,
a blame says it was from 2005.
The Linux ioctl() is called as follows, if it used symbolic constants
and a struct instead of magic byte values:
struct {
char subcode;
short xs, ys, xe, ye;
short sel_mode;
} gpmbuf;
gpmbuf.subcode = TIOCL_SETSEL; // 2
gpmbuf.xs = gpmbuf.xe = x;
gpmbuf.ys = gpmbuf.ye = y;
gpmbuf.selmode = TIOCL_SELPOINTER; //3
ioctl(fd, TIOCLINUX, &gpmbuf);
This adds one other solution -- I could see if it is reasonable for the
Linux kernel to not protect TIOCL_SELPOINTER while protecting the rest
of TIOCL_SETSEL. I'm a bit nervous here as I don't understand the
security implications of SELPOINTER vs other selections, though on first
glance it seems reasonable.
-- MJF
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On 2024-11-28 12:20, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800
>> From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army
>> knife of
>> text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim
>> <rpluim@HIDDEN>,
>> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii
>> <eliz@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas
>> <ampinkas@HIDDEN>
>>
>> This was an intentional change to Linux 6.7 to avoid a potential
>> privilege escalation. Specifically, apps without the capability
>> CAP_SYS_ADMIN are no longer able to set the kernel selection buffer.
>> Across Emacs versions, granting the Emacs binary the CAP_SYS_ADMIN
>> capability (sudo setcap cap_sys_admin+ep path/to/emacs) fixes the
>> issue.
>
> Sorry, I don't follow: what does setting the kernel selection buffer
> have to do with showing the cursor? And how is it related to GPM?
> What am I missing here?
>
>> But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous
>> capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay
>> on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on
>> other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended.
>
> Let's first understand the problem better.
>
> (And I'm guessing that by "cursor" you mean "mouse pointer"?)
Here's some more specifics:
Emacs draws the mouse pointer in handle_one_term_event in term.c. It
does this by calling GPM_DrawPointer() with the intended x and y. This
code is pretty old, a blame says it was from 2007.
GPM_DrawPointer is just a macro, see the GitHub mirror:
https://github.com/telmich/gpm/blob/master/src/headers/gpm.h#L235. This
calls a Linux ioctl() to draw the cursor. This code is also pretty old,
a blame says it was from 2005.
The Linux ioctl() is called as follows, if it used symbolic constants
and a struct instead of magic byte values:
struct {
char subcode;
short xs, ys, xe, ye;
short sel_mode;
} gpmbuf;
gpmbuf.subcode = TIOCL_SETSEL; // 2
gpmbuf.xs = gpmbuf.xe = x;
gpmbuf.ys = gpmbuf.ye = y;
gpmbuf.selmode = TIOCL_SELPOINTER; //3
ioctl(fd, TIOCLINUX, &gpmbuf);
This adds one other solution -- I could see if it is reasonable for the
Linux kernel to not protect TIOCL_SELPOINTER while protecting the rest
of TIOCL_SETSEL. I'm a bit nervous here as I don't understand the
security implications of SELPOINTER vs other selections, though on first
glance it seems reasonable.
-- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2024 20:20:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 28 15:20:47 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tGl0J-0007CC-Cg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56982) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tGl0H-0007Bq-Mn for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:46 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tGl07-0004Ga-1D; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=iXtcljYIYj+Yf5h+1Wcj4x84mDJ6OVcnqGyA579E8aI=; b=mkR38jcjBpNUxNemljDC F7XZKvs+gagniOcdey2ya8dxEFHdKOIHSZud3SJY9tkwb6sCe59TUl0edLo4iyfTekF5HbecrCl3e EdUWfYQh/4phvX49JuvZJenBubO0x3KrDaXZYN5g7D82fr43VK0jOyPhKP/EhXadP3PRxP8V17JwD PC3943WT3nu16ISbnbkrVT6mkVYVC8keu77CD47RTeqO86aeVjv4msDPjDHX76ZedoWi8G1R3pTCJ N/Q5NXoewS4oAk1KCIr7mRxkRSw71yGcC9V1X6K9NH8KNUQJ+Kw2kXrjMesM2GeOZCVRkWdkdNF4s 7IQqefTeEuev/Q==; Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 22:20:28 +0200 Message-Id: <865xo7cdpv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> (message from Jared Finder on Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800 > From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> > Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of > text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>, > Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii > <eliz@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas > <ampinkas@HIDDEN> > > This was an intentional change to Linux 6.7 to avoid a potential > privilege escalation. Specifically, apps without the capability > CAP_SYS_ADMIN are no longer able to set the kernel selection buffer. > Across Emacs versions, granting the Emacs binary the CAP_SYS_ADMIN > capability (sudo setcap cap_sys_admin+ep path/to/emacs) fixes the issue. Sorry, I don't follow: what does setting the kernel selection buffer have to do with showing the cursor? And how is it related to GPM? What am I missing here? > But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous > capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay > on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on > other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended. Let's first understand the problem better. (And I'm guessing that by "cursor" you mean "mouse pointer"?)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2024 20:20:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 28 15:20:47 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tGl0J-0007C9-06 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:47 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:38832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tGl0D-0007Bs-MX for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tGl0C-0005Nt-OZ for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:41 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tGl07-0004Ga-1D; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:20:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=iXtcljYIYj+Yf5h+1Wcj4x84mDJ6OVcnqGyA579E8aI=; b=mkR38jcjBpNUxNemljDC F7XZKvs+gagniOcdey2ya8dxEFHdKOIHSZud3SJY9tkwb6sCe59TUl0edLo4iyfTekF5HbecrCl3e EdUWfYQh/4phvX49JuvZJenBubO0x3KrDaXZYN5g7D82fr43VK0jOyPhKP/EhXadP3PRxP8V17JwD PC3943WT3nu16ISbnbkrVT6mkVYVC8keu77CD47RTeqO86aeVjv4msDPjDHX76ZedoWi8G1R3pTCJ N/Q5NXoewS4oAk1KCIr7mRxkRSw71yGcC9V1X6K9NH8KNUQJ+Kw2kXrjMesM2GeOZCVRkWdkdNF4s 7IQqefTeEuev/Q==; Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 22:20:28 +0200 Message-Id: <865xo7cdpv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> (message from Jared Finder on Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@HIDDEN, stephen.berman@HIDDEN, rpluim@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800 > From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> > Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of > text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>, > Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii > <eliz@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas > <ampinkas@HIDDEN> > > This was an intentional change to Linux 6.7 to avoid a potential > privilege escalation. Specifically, apps without the capability > CAP_SYS_ADMIN are no longer able to set the kernel selection buffer. > Across Emacs versions, granting the Emacs binary the CAP_SYS_ADMIN > capability (sudo setcap cap_sys_admin+ep path/to/emacs) fixes the issue. Sorry, I don't follow: what does setting the kernel selection buffer have to do with showing the cursor? And how is it related to GPM? What am I missing here? > But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous > capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay > on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on > other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended. Let's first understand the problem better. (And I'm guessing that by "cursor" you mean "mouse pointer"?)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2024 18:22:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 28 13:22:10 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tGj9V-0000us-SB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:22:10 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58148) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGj9K-0000u2-E9 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:21:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGj9K-0002HM-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:21:58 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGj9I-0004FU-9n; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:21:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1732818114; bh=XrPkiYlrNJPrUy+4WpMHyfk2pOV6McYwBDV2pDHQ7wY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ahiYwZBbZrPw1tQLrUDBx5ja0Nwuf02ldzpNqz57e884WDkm7g1FmUcouVsUw8TWj u78TFrMK3x6N86yPfIADFhdSGE6N6RUVGJoxI2T1D8i4y9FlMoMEVBnuJF1vqh7Lnc ASjEtrKogC0VYeVERx+upZuj5HLeAQkV5NREinUS7hetJd8XOe0QNqrvhfpslI8IeT SquP7Fpa/1+2fyLQGUEReXIICkd2PeXY6vY9HMYkelvYgSSRzw51/GySUgiG0fRE+S j9Ys2rGxk9SgPvW9NsT+jpNxjz2ECP7RoSLT4F+WbZ+AQtAl0I8UsOeBXc+/GIttlz 4w+cj/MraVyRQ== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01BFF138A; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 18:21:53 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.155.80.58; envelope-from=jared@HIDDEN; helo=greenhill.hpalace.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas <ampinkas@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) On 2024-11-27 19:13, Jared Finder wrote: > On 2024-11-17 17:37, Jared Finder wrote: >> On 2024-11-06 08:17, Stephen Berman wrote: >>> On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:38:52 -0800 Jared Finder via "Bug reports for >>> GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" >>> <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: >>> >>>> I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian >>>> 6.1.0-13-amd64 and >>>> everything is working fine. >>>> >>>> Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") >>>> and >>>> kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you >>>> have this >>>> issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share >>>> if any >>>> errors are reported? >>> >>> I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM => linux, >>> uname -a => Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug >>> 19 >>> 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with >>> -Q, >> >> Thank you, I am able to reproduce the issue locally on "Linux debian >> 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.11.5-1~bpo12+1 >> (2024-11-11) x86_64 GNU=Linux". I will investigate. > > This appears to be due to something happening at a lower level than > Emacs, though perhaps Emacs is not interfacing with GPM correctly. > > This started happening in multiple Emacs versions with Linux 6.7. I > tested HEAD, 29.4, and 28.2 -- all three versions worked fine with > Linux 6.6.63 and then exhibit this bug starting with Linux 6.7. > GPM_DrawPointer is still being called, of course (since this works in > previous Linux versions), but is no longer having any effect. > > I will keep investigating here. AH HA! This was an intentional change to Linux 6.7 to avoid a potential privilege escalation. Specifically, apps without the capability CAP_SYS_ADMIN are no longer able to set the kernel selection buffer. Across Emacs versions, granting the Emacs binary the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability (sudo setcap cap_sys_admin+ep path/to/emacs) fixes the issue. But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended. -- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2024 18:21:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 28 13:21:58 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39664 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tGj9K-0000u0-9H for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:21:58 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]:53028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGj9H-0000tq-U4 for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:21:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1732818114; bh=XrPkiYlrNJPrUy+4WpMHyfk2pOV6McYwBDV2pDHQ7wY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ahiYwZBbZrPw1tQLrUDBx5ja0Nwuf02ldzpNqz57e884WDkm7g1FmUcouVsUw8TWj u78TFrMK3x6N86yPfIADFhdSGE6N6RUVGJoxI2T1D8i4y9FlMoMEVBnuJF1vqh7Lnc ASjEtrKogC0VYeVERx+upZuj5HLeAQkV5NREinUS7hetJd8XOe0QNqrvhfpslI8IeT SquP7Fpa/1+2fyLQGUEReXIICkd2PeXY6vY9HMYkelvYgSSRzw51/GySUgiG0fRE+S j9Ys2rGxk9SgPvW9NsT+jpNxjz2ECP7RoSLT4F+WbZ+AQtAl0I8UsOeBXc+/GIttlz 4w+cj/MraVyRQ== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01BFF138A; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 18:21:53 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:21:53 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <af3a1741e64bf5075f2c187b01fdcefd@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas <ampinkas@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2024-11-27 19:13, Jared Finder wrote: > On 2024-11-17 17:37, Jared Finder wrote: >> On 2024-11-06 08:17, Stephen Berman wrote: >>> On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:38:52 -0800 Jared Finder via "Bug reports for >>> GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" >>> <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: >>> >>>> I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian >>>> 6.1.0-13-amd64 and >>>> everything is working fine. >>>> >>>> Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") >>>> and >>>> kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you >>>> have this >>>> issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share >>>> if any >>>> errors are reported? >>> >>> I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM => linux, >>> uname -a => Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug >>> 19 >>> 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with >>> -Q, >> >> Thank you, I am able to reproduce the issue locally on "Linux debian >> 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.11.5-1~bpo12+1 >> (2024-11-11) x86_64 GNU=Linux". I will investigate. > > This appears to be due to something happening at a lower level than > Emacs, though perhaps Emacs is not interfacing with GPM correctly. > > This started happening in multiple Emacs versions with Linux 6.7. I > tested HEAD, 29.4, and 28.2 -- all three versions worked fine with > Linux 6.6.63 and then exhibit this bug starting with Linux 6.7. > GPM_DrawPointer is still being called, of course (since this works in > previous Linux versions), but is no longer having any effect. > > I will keep investigating here. AH HA! This was an intentional change to Linux 6.7 to avoid a potential privilege escalation. Specifically, apps without the capability CAP_SYS_ADMIN are no longer able to set the kernel selection buffer. Across Emacs versions, granting the Emacs binary the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability (sudo setcap cap_sys_admin+ep path/to/emacs) fixes the issue. But is this the right fix? CAP_SYS_ADMIN grants many dangerous capabilities on Linux. An alternative fix would be to update redisplay on terminals to draw the mouse cursor. Perhaps this is what is done on other OSes? I would like guidance here on which path is recommended. -- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2024 03:16:16 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 27 22:16:16 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tGV0q-0004aC-En for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:16:16 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGV0o-0004a3-24 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:16:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGUyg-0007Cq-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:14:02 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGUye-0004Yk-PV; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:14:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1732763636; bh=MKJ9dzqTAx0j9efHKL4O1X4HGBy/TUrp/pw6gWwtS1Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=F/JqviHQleGq4Ug3h1QmxMq0n//HnQCGoYM2Kt/v6Z3n9ElWXemjeUVlZYotz4on/ 0w6HCJltTUxfukOzkXvW2C8B30tPYbtoV6WmFMLsNxKmW6OOgZQok9G6xO0+neWdbB 4xGuDT9B3K8GsLqViWIkvEb5oZ1AOHXBweyJroIEOvY/O5pj6zj1AdvzsXXVn9BQni 4zF8YjJcdfcM8p46U3bO2q2qtZl55RgmsDDlo/dpZ775IMqZ/HUuZ5Sr/D9Vfb+YHU A1VllYNxCVkJeWFWRSVu17fk3mXejEPSAJxZL9G/XxRk/WchOB85kJ5rNbPk1anHxC WjehJ3/5SUSUw== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7234138A; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 03:13:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:13:56 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.155.80.58; envelope-from=jared@HIDDEN; helo=greenhill.hpalace.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas <ampinkas@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) On 2024-11-17 17:37, Jared Finder wrote: > On 2024-11-06 08:17, Stephen Berman wrote: >> On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:38:52 -0800 Jared Finder via "Bug reports for >> GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" >> <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: >> >>> I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian 6.1.0-13-amd64 >>> and >>> everything is working fine. >>> >>> Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") >>> and >>> kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you have >>> this >>> issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share >>> if any >>> errors are reported? >> >> I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM => linux, >> uname -a => Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 19 >> 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with >> -Q, > > Thank you, I am able to reproduce the issue locally on "Linux debian > 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.11.5-1~bpo12+1 > (2024-11-11) x86_64 GNU=Linux". I will investigate. This appears to be due to something happening at a lower level than Emacs, though perhaps Emacs is not interfacing with GPM correctly. This started happening in multiple Emacs versions with Linux 6.7. I tested HEAD, 29.4, and 28.2 -- all three versions worked fine with Linux 6.6.63 and then exhibit this bug starting with Linux 6.7. GPM_DrawPointer is still being called, of course (since this works in previous Linux versions), but is no longer having any effect. I will keep investigating here. -- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2024 03:14:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 27 22:14:00 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tGUyd-0004Q1-Tn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:14:00 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]:41172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tGUyb-0004Pq-S5 for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:13:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1732763636; bh=MKJ9dzqTAx0j9efHKL4O1X4HGBy/TUrp/pw6gWwtS1Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=F/JqviHQleGq4Ug3h1QmxMq0n//HnQCGoYM2Kt/v6Z3n9ElWXemjeUVlZYotz4on/ 0w6HCJltTUxfukOzkXvW2C8B30tPYbtoV6WmFMLsNxKmW6OOgZQok9G6xO0+neWdbB 4xGuDT9B3K8GsLqViWIkvEb5oZ1AOHXBweyJroIEOvY/O5pj6zj1AdvzsXXVn9BQni 4zF8YjJcdfcM8p46U3bO2q2qtZl55RgmsDDlo/dpZ775IMqZ/HUuZ5Sr/D9Vfb+YHU A1VllYNxCVkJeWFWRSVu17fk3mXejEPSAJxZL9G/XxRk/WchOB85kJ5rNbPk1anHxC WjehJ3/5SUSUw== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7234138A; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 03:13:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:13:56 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <8b70d54cd579f33d1e698a0f8927dc4f@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas <ampinkas@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2024-11-17 17:37, Jared Finder wrote: > On 2024-11-06 08:17, Stephen Berman wrote: >> On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:38:52 -0800 Jared Finder via "Bug reports for >> GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" >> <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: >> >>> I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian 6.1.0-13-amd64 >>> and >>> everything is working fine. >>> >>> Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") >>> and >>> kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you have >>> this >>> issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share >>> if any >>> errors are reported? >> >> I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM => linux, >> uname -a => Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 19 >> 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with >> -Q, > > Thank you, I am able to reproduce the issue locally on "Linux debian > 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.11.5-1~bpo12+1 > (2024-11-11) x86_64 GNU=Linux". I will investigate. This appears to be due to something happening at a lower level than Emacs, though perhaps Emacs is not interfacing with GPM correctly. This started happening in multiple Emacs versions with Linux 6.7. I tested HEAD, 29.4, and 28.2 -- all three versions worked fine with Linux 6.6.63 and then exhibit this bug starting with Linux 6.7. GPM_DrawPointer is still being called, of course (since this works in previous Linux versions), but is no longer having any effect. I will keep investigating here. -- MJF
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74220; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 74220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2024 01:37:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 20:37:17 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59247 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tCqhY-0002Zg-Lj for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 20:37:17 -0500 Received: from greenhill.hpalace.com ([192.155.80.58]:54184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jared@HIDDEN>) id 1tCqhP-0002ZR-Uh for 74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 20:37:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1731893825; bh=Etvt8tm3Xf48Axbl/NP/ctsn8sSxLXQWDzEJt+7aQrk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=rN6RkI/SDrqokxQJkpZAVeowYLnMMl27deaMQVs8+jfAxnXtza3y64caidGjxDS5f FjdkvP592eSJNFbacQwytHFAehWk6JsWimZ90JUD9p2Irc9OYkPZc+Pr05RlPgNcF4 oCEXy+z3nuxwENjKZY/4LZybQnWnpM4q1e7NGSsG3uZ+PGVxhrWgLXtopZVlDqxfe5 0HCU6nL3z7+yg1oXd1mS2SpVHdSCq7jsqK/4v3BNbVXaW3oA554q9ZpBfST2JnvpFJ Yudq1saUsCSC1MX6VutuJ1+TkY13p0FyhnjVltrEreVaS1tIOp6y6lhwMEo+daCrWb kwc+rNbKt+qFA== Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2665217; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 01:37:05 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:37:05 -0800 From: Jared Finder <jared@HIDDEN> To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74220: invisible cursor In-Reply-To: <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAHEwkt8fSvJnbKMUvA6CRQ-ucoR5nz2WMETimMwfi=HkYJkf6Q@HIDDEN> <87ldxwmppm.fsf@HIDDEN> <m28qtwqx1q.fsf@HIDDEN> <86o72ssfm4.fsf@HIDDEN> <b13535ab-db47-42d8-b22a-e8fc548051c1@edison> <bd865df3e13a606e8506a3ae0b493824@HIDDEN> <87bjyscp5e.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <2b5006ac22491fd8c509120ad653117d@HIDDEN> X-Sender: jared@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74220 Cc: "Jared Finder via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors\"" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, 74220 <74220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Avraham Pinkas <ampinkas@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2024-11-06 08:17, Stephen Berman wrote: > On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:38:52 -0800 Jared Finder via "Bug reports for > GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" > <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: > >> I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian 6.1.0-13-amd64 >> and >> everything is working fine. >> >> Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") >> and >> kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you have >> this >> issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share if >> any >> errors are reported? > > I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM => linux, > uname -a => Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 19 > 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with > -Q, Thank you, I am able to reproduce the issue locally on "Linux debian 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.11.5-1~bpo12+1 (2024-11-11) x86_64 GNU=Linux". I will investigate. -- MJF
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Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share if >> any >> errors are reported? > > I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM => linux, > uname -a => Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 19 > 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with > -Q, Thank you, I am able to reproduce the issue locally on "Linux debian 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.11.5-1~bpo12+1 (2024-11-11) x86_64 GNU=Linux". I will investigate. -- MJF
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A real linux console, ie not an xterm? >>> Yes, GPM is for linux virtual consoles. > > I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian 6.1.0-13-amd64 and > everything is working fine. > > Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") and > kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you have this > issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share if any > errors are reported? I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM =3D> linux, uname -a =3D> Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 19 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with -Q, `C-h v gpm-mouse-mode' says the value is t and I see the blinking cursor in the emacs window, but moving the mouse I see no gpm cursor, though I can make and yank selections and pull down menus in Emacs with the mouse (the blinking cursor is not moved by the mouse). When I type `M-x gpm-mouse-mode' there are no errors and a cursor appears that moves with the mouse (the blinking cursor remains visible and unresponsive to the mouse), though `C-h v gpm-mouse-mode' now says the value is nil; I can make selections as before (though the highlighting is a different color than before) but I cannot pull down menus with the mouse. This is with emacs-29, emacs-30 and master. Steve Berman
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A real linux console, ie not an xterm? >>> Yes, GPM is for linux virtual consoles. > > I tested this locally at HEAD (b5845e) on Linux debian 6.1.0-13-amd64 and > everything is working fine. > > Could you please describe what terminal (the output of "echo $TERM") and > kernel version (the output of "uname -a") you are using when you have this > issue? Can you try toggling M-x gpm-mouse-mode on and off and share if any > errors are reported? I can reproduce the issue in the Linux terminal (echo $TERM =3D> linux, uname -a =3D> Linux strobelfssd 6.10.6 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 19 12:15:23 CEST 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux). When I start emacs there with -Q, `C-h v gpm-mouse-mode' says the value is t and I see the blinking cursor in the emacs window, but moving the mouse I see no gpm cursor, though I can make and yank selections and pull down menus in Emacs with the mouse (the blinking cursor is not moved by the mouse). When I type `M-x gpm-mouse-mode' there are no errors and a cursor appears that moves with the mouse (the blinking cursor remains visible and unresponsive to the mouse), though `C-h v gpm-mouse-mode' now says the value is nil; I can make selections as before (though the highlighting is a different color than before) but I cannot pull down menus with the mouse. This is with emacs-29, emacs-30 and master. Steve Berman
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<div id=3D=22edo-message=22><div style=3D=22font-size:16px=22>It requires=
both a Linux kernel with GPM support as well as an Emacs build with GPM =
enabled</div><div style=3D=22font-size:16px=22><br></div><div style=3D=22=
font-size:16px=22>I have tested GPM under a VM in the past. I can bring i=
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>>>>> On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 14:37:07 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
>> From: Avraham Pinkas <ampinkas@HIDDEN>
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>> in a terminal (TTY), while gpm-mouse-mode is enabled, the cursor is invisible.
Eli> Does someone (Jared?) have a system with a gpm-mouse build and can
Eli> reproduce and debug this, please?
Remind us what this needs? A real linux console, ie not an xterm?
Robert
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