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From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>
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Subject: Re: bug#74792: 29.2.50; goto-address-mode should support RET in
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> For a long time I had been using RET to scroll by one line in Info:
>
> (define-key Info-mode-map [return]
> (lambda ()
> (interactive)
> (if nil ;; TODO: add predicate to check if point is on Info refs
> (Info-follow-nearest-node)
> (View-scroll-line-forward))))
>
> But still can't find a predicate that would prevent RET from visiting
> a reference only when the cursor moves to it while scrolling.
> And don't believe this is possible. So need to use other
> less intuitive keys to visit links.
I forgot about other futile attempts to find a suitable heuristic:
(define-key gnus-article-mode-map [return] 'my-gnus-article-press-or-scroll)
(defun my-gnus-article-press-or-scroll ()
(interactive)
;; When point is at the bottom of the window while scrolling
(if (eq (point) (save-excursion (move-to-window-line -1) (point)))
(View-scroll-line-forward)
(gnus-article-press-button)))
Here the button is pressed when point is not at the bottom,
because point moves to the bottom while scrolling.
But in `emacs -Q` I see that point remains at the top
while scrolling. So this behavior depends on customization.
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>> Typing just RET would be more intuitive, but indeed there is a problem
>> that e.g. 'C-h C-t RET RET RET ...' will scroll lines one by one
>> until this line becomes current:
>>
>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html
>>
>> Then RET will surprisingly visit that URL.
>>
>> Unfortunately, an option can't help because most users might want to
>> enable it, but only if it doesn't misfire in unexpected situations.
>
> True. Perhaps it should be enabled buffer-locally, then. Then a user
> can set it in a major-mode hook - and if a major-mode does not bind RET
> to something else, the major-mode can just enable it.
This means disabling RET on links in etc/TODO and all other
link-rich files that use 'view-help-file':
(defun describe-distribution ()
"Display info on how to obtain the latest version of GNU Emacs."
(interactive)
(view-help-file "DISTRIB"))
(defun describe-copying ()
"Display info on how you may redistribute copies of GNU Emacs."
(interactive)
(view-help-file "COPYING"))
(defun view-emacs-problems ()
"Display info on known problems with Emacs and possible workarounds."
(interactive)
(view-help-file "PROBLEMS"))
(defun view-emacs-debugging ()
"Display info on how to debug Emacs problems."
(interactive)
(view-help-file "DEBUG"))
For a long time I had been using RET to scroll by one line in Info:
(define-key Info-mode-map [return]
(lambda ()
(interactive)
(if nil ;; TODO: add predicate to check if point is on Info refs
(Info-follow-nearest-node)
(View-scroll-line-forward))))
But still can't find a predicate that would prevent RET from visiting
a reference only when the cursor moves to it while scrolling.
And don't believe this is possible. So need to use other
less intuitive keys to visit links.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#74792; Package emacs.
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Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:20:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <98c617e8-ee0d-4228-9bd4-411051427765@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:20:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#74792: 29.2.50; goto-address-mode should support RET in special-mode buffers To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> References: <ierzfl22oaa.fsf@HIDDEN> <86ldwm2lko.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAO=BR8MtXJewQBhrJmvQZTS2T3nxAu6+UCG-=hYnwPTYbdYXtQ@HIDDEN> <86ed2e2gnm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86ed2e2gnm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74792 Cc: 74792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 11/12/2024 20:55, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > goto-address-mode binds C-c RET to goto-address-at-point when point is >> > on a URL or email address. In special-mode buffers (or maybe any >> > read-only buffer?) it should also bind RET while point is on the URL or >> > email address. >> >> I don't think it's a good idea, since many special-mode descendants >> bind RET to useful commands. For goto-address-at-point to override >> that would be a nuisance, I think. >> >> True, but when I've specifically moved point to a URL it is usually because I want to follow the URL, not do >> whatever is bound to RET in the mode. > > You cannot know that. E.g., point could be on a URL by chance, for > example, if a buffer starts with a URL. I also regularly try RET in such cases, notice it does not work, and then have to reach for the mouse. Just not often enough to look up and remember the alternative. >> But this sounds like something that may differ between users, so perhaps we could add this controlled by a >> defcustom? > > Let's first hear that enough people here think that it might sometimes > be a good thing. If so, then yes, a user option, by default off, > could be a way to introduce such behavior. The same option could affect other "C-c RET" bindings as well, such as browse-url-button-open in ansi-osc-hyperlink-map and bug-reference-push-button in bug-reference-map.
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Full text available.Received: (at 74792) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2024 20:47:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 12 15:47:27 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40557 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tLq5l-0008Jl-RK for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:47:27 -0500 Received: from mxout5.mail.janestreet.com ([64.215.233.18]:51751) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1tLq5d-0008JK-Ui for 74792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:47:22 -0500 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74792: 29.2.50; goto-address-mode should support RET in special-mode buffers In-Reply-To: <87v7vp6vfd.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:35:18 +0200") References: <ierzfl22oaa.fsf@HIDDEN> <86ldwm2lko.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAO=BR8MtXJewQBhrJmvQZTS2T3nxAu6+UCG-=hYnwPTYbdYXtQ@HIDDEN> <86ed2e2gnm.fsf@HIDDEN> <87v7vp6vfd.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:47:12 -0500 Message-ID: <ierikror5m7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=janestreet.com; s=waixah; t=1734036432; bh=A0wmlVpZsItNO/0mT+VqnYh+wYWR3d8oAytWHSEGadc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=VnNZeOxH3mPTY+rfwxm1Agz1TMgAcadODMzhltRDINJtYN9yyguGlZfEO/IZTZo2o yS+uXabyjNVjlGNdLgeEHBHGmwq1dUEcnS196Xo2o8AkOJEQDF9w0qNLuVugvD2ta8 3lMQwvjH8bHNwF9E/Vp0deDfW04AIkxzur2Q76JjQ3aV4F+7KEd/8FqKx5gADuDM71 D7IEtZuM9EWwiGLOpagFLhUkpfpRWAz3yDHHQo8+Shsc3IMHK4moKcChZo61Jl+YSl JGbZVMqJ4SC28gN+04/D+Im7rpuLRmD9e4MBzEB4qQ1sHLiNsM9VDVVmv0NUcvqQp3 ewXUBTAkS+TUA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74792 Cc: dmitry@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 74792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: >>> > goto-address-mode binds C-c RET to goto-address-at-point when point is >>> > on a URL or email address. In special-mode buffers (or maybe any >>> > read-only buffer?) it should also bind RET while point is on the URL or >>> > email address. >>> >>> I don't think it's a good idea, since many special-mode descendants >>> bind RET to useful commands. For goto-address-at-point to override >>> that would be a nuisance, I think. >>> >>> True, but when I've specifically moved point to a URL it is usually because I want to follow the URL, not do >>> whatever is bound to RET in the mode. >> >> You cannot know that. E.g., point could be on a URL by chance, for >> example, if a buffer starts with a URL. >> >>> But this sounds like something that may differ between users, so perhaps we could add this controlled by a >>> defcustom? >> >> Let's first hear that enough people here think that it might sometimes >> be a good thing. If so, then yes, a user option, by default off, >> could be a way to introduce such behavior. > > Typing just RET would be more intuitive, but indeed there is a problem > that e.g. 'C-h C-t RET RET RET ...' will scroll lines one by one > until this line becomes current: > > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html > > Then RET will surprisingly visit that URL. > > Unfortunately, an option can't help because most users might want to > enable it, but only if it doesn't misfire in unexpected situations. True. Perhaps it should be enabled buffer-locally, then. Then a user can set it in a major-mode hook - and if a major-mode does not bind RET to something else, the major-mode can just enable it.
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Full text available.Received: (at 74792) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2024 16:45:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 12 11:45:27 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40078 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tLmJa-0003nR-GY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:45:27 -0500 Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:37275) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1tLmJW-0003lm-8I for 74792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:45:25 -0500 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA0BA20003; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#74792: 29.2.50; goto-address-mode should support RET in special-mode buffers In-Reply-To: <86ed2e2gnm.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 11 Dec 2024 20:55:41 +0200") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <ierzfl22oaa.fsf@HIDDEN> <86ldwm2lko.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAO=BR8MtXJewQBhrJmvQZTS2T3nxAu6+UCG-=hYnwPTYbdYXtQ@HIDDEN> <86ed2e2gnm.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:35:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87v7vp6vfd.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74792 Cc: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>, 74792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dmitry@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> > goto-address-mode binds C-c RET to goto-address-at-point when point is >> > on a URL or email address. In special-mode buffers (or maybe any >> > read-only buffer?) it should also bind RET while point is on the URL or >> > email address. >> >> I don't think it's a good idea, since many special-mode descendants >> bind RET to useful commands. For goto-address-at-point to override >> that would be a nuisance, I think. >> >> True, but when I've specifically moved point to a URL it is usually because I want to follow the URL, not do >> whatever is bound to RET in the mode. > > You cannot know that. E.g., point could be on a URL by chance, for > example, if a buffer starts with a URL. > >> But this sounds like something that may differ between users, so perhaps we could add this controlled by a >> defcustom? > > Let's first hear that enough people here think that it might sometimes > be a good thing. If so, then yes, a user option, by default off, > could be a way to introduce such behavior. Typing just RET would be more intuitive, but indeed there is a problem that e.g. 'C-h C-t RET RET RET ...' will scroll lines one by one until this line becomes current: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html Then RET will surprisingly visit that URL. Unfortunately, an option can't help because most users might want to enable it, but only if it doesn't misfire in unexpected situations.
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 12:09=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Cc: dmitry@HIDDEN > > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 11:10:53 -0500 > > From: Spencer Baugh via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > > > > > goto-address-mode binds C-c RET to goto-address-at-point when point is > > on a URL or email address. In special-mode buffers (or maybe any > > read-only buffer?) it should also bind RET while point is on the URL or > > email address. > > I don't think it's a good idea, since many special-mode descendants > bind RET to useful commands. For goto-address-at-point to override > that would be a nuisance, I think. > True, but when I've specifically moved point to a URL it is usually because I want to follow the URL, not do whatever is bound to RET in the mode. But this sounds like something that may differ between users, so perhaps we could add this controlled by a defcustom? > --000000000000bd25eb062902164a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><di= v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 12:09=E2=80=AFPM E= li Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote= :<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor= der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:dmitry= @gutov.dev" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dmitry@HIDDEN</a><br> > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 11:10:53 -0500<br> > From:=C2=A0 Spencer Baugh via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,<br> >=C2=A0 the Swiss army knife of text editors" <<a href=3D"mailto= :bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bug-gnu-emacs@= gnu.org</a>><br> > <br> > <br> > goto-address-mode binds C-c RET to goto-address-at-point when point is= <br> > on a URL or email address.=C2=A0 In special-mode buffers (or maybe any= <br> > read-only buffer?) it should also bind RET while point is on the URL o= r<br> > email address.<br> <br> I don't think it's a good idea, since many special-mode descendants= <br> bind RET to useful commands.=C2=A0 For goto-address-at-point to override<br= > that would be a nuisance, I think.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"= auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">True, but when I've specifically move= d point to a URL it is usually because I want to follow the URL, not do wha= tever is bound to RET in the mode.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di= r=3D"auto">But this sounds like something that may differ between users, so= perhaps we could add this controlled by a defcustom?</div><div dir=3D"auto= "><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gma= il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef= t:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div></div> --000000000000bd25eb062902164a--
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