GNU bug report logs - #7565
24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified; kill anyway?" doesn't end up in *Messages*

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From: jidanni <at> jidanni.org
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified;
	kill anyway?" doesn't end up in *Messages*
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:17:16 +0800

Please make sure messages like
"Buffer Makefile modified; kill anyway? (yes or no) "
end up in *Messages*. Thanks.

I thought it was due to emacsclient but it turned out not to be.
So no fancy test like the below needed.

$ cat Makefile
h:
	emacsclient -n --eval '(kill-buffer "Makefile")'
$ emacs Makefile
now with the server started, add some blanks to the Makefile and do M-x
compile, but don't save the Makefile...

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1)
 of 2010-11-21 on elegiac, modified by Debian
 (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20101120-1)

Message #10 received at 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Cc: 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7565: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified;
	kill anyway?" doesn't end up in *Messages*
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:09:45 -0500

jidanni <at> jidanni.org wrote:

> Please make sure messages like
> "Buffer Makefile modified; kill anyway? (yes or no) "
> end up in *Messages*.

Why?
It is an interactive query. Did you type "yes" without reading it?

Message #13 received at 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: jidanni <at> jidanni.org
To: rgm <at> gnu.org
Cc: 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7565: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified;
	kill anyway?" doesn't end up in *Messages*
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:16:50 +0800

>>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:
GM> jidanni <at> jidanni.org wrote:

>> Please make sure messages like
>> "Buffer Makefile modified; kill anyway? (yes or no) "
>> end up in *Messages*.

GM> Why?

Probably so one has a way of putting the message into a bug report if needed.

GM> It is an interactive query. Did you type "yes" without reading it?

I just want a easy way of telling people what emacs just said to me if needed.

Message #16 received at 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#7565: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified;
	kill anyway?" doesn't end up in *Messages*
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:09:05 +0100

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> It is an interactive query. Did you type "yes" without reading it?

I sometimes forget.  And then I look in the *Messages* buffer, and am
disappointed that it's not there...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/

Message #19 received at 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#7565: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified; kill anyway?" doesn't
 end up in *Messages*
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 03:19:14 +0200

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> It is an interactive query. Did you type "yes" without reading it?
>
> I sometimes forget.  And then I look in the *Messages* buffer, and am
> disappointed that it's not there...

I wondered where the yes-or-no-p prompt happened, and it's in the bowels
of read_minibuf, and it's this:

    /* Insert the prompt, record where it ends.  */
    Finsert (1, &minibuf_prompt);

So if we want to do this, it probably makes sense to put absolutely all
minibuffer prompts into the *Messages* buffer.

And that's actually something I can see the charm in doing, but I'm not
quite sure that the use case is compelling.  Dan mentions

> Probably so one has a way of putting the message into a bug report if needed.

but you can do that by just going to the beginning of the minibuffer and
copying the text there.

Does anybody have an opinion here?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #22 received at 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#7565: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified; kill anyway?" doesn't
 end up in *Messages*
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 12:40:07 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> I wondered where the yes-or-no-p prompt happened, and it's in the bowels
> of read_minibuf, and it's this:
>
>     /* Insert the prompt, record where it ends.  */
>     Finsert (1, &minibuf_prompt);
>
> So if we want to do this, it probably makes sense to put absolutely all
> minibuffer prompts into the *Messages* buffer.
>
> And that's actually something I can see the charm in doing, but I'm not
> quite sure that the use case is compelling.  Dan mentions
>
>> Probably so one has a way of putting the message into a bug report if needed.
>
> but you can do that by just going to the beginning of the minibuffer and
> copying the text there.
>
> Does anybody have an opinion here?

Nobody had, and as I said, I don't really see a compelling use case
here, so I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #29 received at 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 7565 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7565: 24.0.50; "Buffer ... modified;
 kill anyway?" doesn't end up in *Messages*
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 13:56:43 +0800

OK, I can (almost) always use emacs -nw if needed.

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