Received: (at 75684-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2025 07:42:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 23 02:42:38 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tarrK-0002zI-IG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:42:38 -0500 Received: from out-186.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.186]:10570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <joseph@HIDDEN>) id 1tarrI-0002yw-7u for 75684-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:42:37 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=breatheoutbreathe.in; s=key1; t=1737618149; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YHckqBH8BTN3mZwP7LNB6MHJ909wZ2ORzmxmtC1ifi0=; b=BTt+Z2CB5/HzrQyuy2RDek4bS81J725fJO/kojVZQX+eRtGCxvP8JMV6/GDtjWBbZnk0/N jLYHMm5cZ8HI1VheQEJBk1T3EEVjh5K4QardFNrZ0m4QoIFI3HVJWJhmYDO0MktDseGHns ryjlad3lLZuOhxmKXkHCvT41N3nFRGw= From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> To: Joseph Turner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#75684: missing from mailing list archives In-Reply-To: <877c6mt9qw.fsf@HIDDEN> (Joseph Turner via's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:49:43 -0800") References: <87a5bmj57f.fsf@HIDDEN> <877c6mt9qw.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 23:42:25 -0800 Message-ID: <877c6mq8m6.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75684-done Cc: 75684-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Joseph Turner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: > Three days ago, on 2025-01-19, I submitted bug report #75684. I received > the acknowledgment email, but I don't see the bug report in the mailing > list archive. I know there have been some issues with some of the FSF > infrastructure over the past few days, so I wonder if my bug report was > somehow lost (and maybe other bug reports too?). > > Thank you! > > Joseph Hmm... Now I see this message on the mailing list archives as if it were bug#75684. I'll just re-submit my bug report again. Thanks! Joseph
Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>:Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>:Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2025 07:42:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 23 02:42:46 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tarrR-0002zm-T9 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:42:46 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:57916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <joseph@HIDDEN>) id 1tarrP-0002zA-7d for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:42:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <joseph@HIDDEN>) id 1tarrH-0006GX-HG for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:42:35 -0500 Received: from out-189.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.189]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <joseph@HIDDEN>) id 1tarrE-0002nl-DQ for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:42:35 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=breatheoutbreathe.in; s=key1; t=1737618149; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YHckqBH8BTN3mZwP7LNB6MHJ909wZ2ORzmxmtC1ifi0=; b=BTt+Z2CB5/HzrQyuy2RDek4bS81J725fJO/kojVZQX+eRtGCxvP8JMV6/GDtjWBbZnk0/N jLYHMm5cZ8HI1VheQEJBk1T3EEVjh5K4QardFNrZ0m4QoIFI3HVJWJhmYDO0MktDseGHns ryjlad3lLZuOhxmKXkHCvT41N3nFRGw= From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> To: Joseph Turner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#75684: missing from mailing list archives In-Reply-To: <877c6mt9qw.fsf@HIDDEN> (Joseph Turner via's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:49:43 -0800") References: <87a5bmj57f.fsf@HIDDEN> <877c6mt9qw.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 23:42:25 -0800 Message-ID: <877c6mq8m6.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.215.58.189; envelope-from=joseph@HIDDEN; helo=out-189.mta1.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 75684-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Joseph Turner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: > Three days ago, on 2025-01-19, I submitted bug report #75684. I received > the acknowledgment email, but I don't see the bug report in the mailing > list archive. I know there have been some issues with some of the FSF > infrastructure over the past few days, so I wonder if my bug report was > somehow lost (and maybe other bug reports too?). > > Thank you! > > Joseph Hmm... Now I see this message on the mailing list archives as if it were bug#75684. I'll just re-submit my bug report again. Thanks! Joseph
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DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=breatheoutbreathe.in; s=key1; t=1737359341; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=P0JDv89JilhmkwTiE5m8eCR2c/zMBAJWUxZtM2zpJDI=; b=dmLLoAM3wOKhyQMTk4qxndyyq2h7jd4ejcKYCREIF04GHhWz0K+sw4pSNywr4CFH6WEo5a CssuIYhMqoi403EjxK7S3XXH7/ZfvrWS69JZe0qbQrUMhPNUkHmI37rbLyKbhrPaN1a1tQ X6ueHBzgT9NP9TPLIZS2jHSmnFtCYug= From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: persist-defvar symbol bound before definition, causing data loss Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:48:52 -0800 Message-ID: <87a5bmj57f.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:41d0:203:375::bd; envelope-from=joseph@HIDDEN; helo=out-189.mta1.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Adam Porter <adam@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Variables defined with persist-defvar which have persisted values are sometimes bound to their persisted values before the package is loaded. persist-defvar then incorrectly sets the symbol's persist-default property to its persisted value, which then causes the persist value to sometimes be deleted. The bug in the wild: https://github.com/alphapapa/activities.el/issues/109 I am able to reproduce this issue on Emacs 29.4: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- rm -rf /tmp/test-persist-issue/ mkdir /tmp/test-persist-issue cat > /tmp/test-persist-issue/init.el <<EOF (package-initialize) (unless (package-installed-p 'test-persist-issue) (package-vc-install "https://git.sr.ht/~breatheoutbreathein/test-persist-issue")) EOF emacs --init-directory=/tmp/test-persist-issue/ --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Wait for Emacs to install test-persist-issue.el and persist.el, then: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (progn (require 'test-persist-issue) (setf test-persist-issue 'foo) (persist-save 'test-persist-issue) (kill-emacs)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- /tmp/test-persist-issue/persist/test-persist-issue now exists as expected. Now run: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- rm -rf /tmp/test-persist-issue/elpa/ emacs --init-directory=/tmp/test-persist-issue/ --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Wait for installation again, then evaluate: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (progn ;; (persist-default 'test-persist-issue) ;; foo (should be nil) (persist-save 'test-persist-issue)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The second time Emacs is opened, just before the call to persist-defvar in activities.el, the test-persist-issue variable is already bound to the persisted value, which results in the persisted value being incorrectly set as the default. Why is the persist variable bound before the persist-defvar form? This example uses package-vc for the sake of reliable bug reproduction, but the issue also exists with package.el, as in the original report. Thank you! Joseph P.S. The linked git repo contains two files, both of which appear to be necessary to reproduce the issue. For the sake of future bug reproduction, I have attached both files to this email. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=test-persist-issue.el Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ;;; test-persist-issue.el -*- lexical-binding: t; -*- ;; Version: 0.1-pre ;; Package-Requires: ((persist "0.6")) (require 'persist) (persist-defvar test-persist-issue nil "Docstring.") (provide 'test-persist-issue) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=test-persist-issue-other-file.el Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ;;; test-persist-issue-other-file.el -*- lexical-binding: t; -*- (require 'test-persist-issue) test-persist-issue (provide 'test-persist-issue-other-file) --=-=-=--
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