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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
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Subject: Re: bug#75775: 30.0.93; [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of
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> I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default
> changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do
> it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30.
>
> Stefan, WDYT?
No specific opinion. My understanding is that we should introduce some
kind of `pp-fast` function, but in the mean time hacks like this patch
seem fine to me.
Stefan
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#75775; Package emacs.
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Looks like someone put in (non-essential t) so that takes care of that. In any case, it seems would be better would be to defer the translation work rather than do it in the defcustom. On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:43=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> wr= ote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:01=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrot= e: > >> > From: Zhengyi Fu <i@HIDDEN> >> > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800 >> > >> > `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', which is >> > great. However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less >> > human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch >> > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. >> >> I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default >> changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do >> it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. >> >> Stefan, WDYT? >> > > (I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefans Stevens Stephans Stephanes= ) > > I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of the packages I help > maintain that relies on bookmarks. > > I prefer easier to harder and I prefer the original format. > > -Stephane > --0000000000001cc04f062c86ca3d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">Aha, I spoke to soon about Tramp. Looks like someone put in=C2=A0(non-es= sential t) so that takes care of that.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st= yle=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:monospace">In any case, it seems would be better would be t= o defer the translation work rather than do it in the defcustom.</div></div= ><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas= s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:43=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <<a = href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br><= /div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo= rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">= <span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sat, Jan 25, 2025= at 6:01=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN" targe= t=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"gm= ail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.= 8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: Zhe= ngyi Fu=C2=A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:i@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">i@HIDDEN<= /a>><br> > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800<br> > <br> > `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', wh= ich is<br> > great.=C2=A0 However, this changed the bookmark format and made it les= s<br> > human-readable and unfriendly to version control.=C2=A0 =C2=A0This sma= ll patch<br> > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'.<br> <br> I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default<br= > changes the whitespace.=C2=A0 But if we do make any changes, we should do<b= r> it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30.<= br> <br> Stefan, WDYT?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s= tyle=3D"font-family:monospace">(I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefa= ns Stevens Stephans Stephanes)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-= family:monospace">I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of=C2=A0th= e=C2=A0packages I help maintain that=C2=A0relies=C2=A0on bookmarks.</div><d= iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div c= lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I prefer easier to h= arder and I prefer the original format.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s= tyle=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:monospace">-Stephane</div></div></div> </blockquote></div> --0000000000001cc04f062c86ca3d--
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However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less > > human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch > > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. > > I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default > changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do > it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. > > Stefan, WDYT? > (I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefans Stevens Stephans Stephanes) I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of the packages I help maintain that relies on bookmarks. I prefer easier to harder and I prefer the original format. -Stephane --0000000000009e1937062c866165 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:01=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Zhengyi Fu=C2=A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:i@HIDDEN" tar= get=3D"_blank">i@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800<br> > <br> > `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', wh= ich is<br> > great.=C2=A0 However, this changed the bookmark format and made it les= s<br> > human-readable and unfriendly to version control.=C2=A0 =C2=A0This sma= ll patch<br> > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'.<br> <br> I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default<br= > changes the whitespace.=C2=A0 But if we do make any changes, we should do<b= r> it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30.<= br> <br> Stefan, WDYT?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s= tyle=3D"font-family:monospace">(I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefa= ns Stevens Stephans Stephanes)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-= family:monospace">I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of=C2=A0th= e=C2=A0packages I help maintain that=C2=A0relies=C2=A0on bookmarks.</div><d= iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div c= lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I prefer easier to h= arder and I prefer the original format.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s= tyle=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:monospace">-Stephane</div></div></div> --0000000000009e1937062c866165--
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However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less > human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. 1. Thanks for reporting this. 2. Seriously? pp.el now has a function named "pp-28"? And the (only? best?) way to prevent filling and obtain the longstanding behavior is to bind `pp-default-function' to `pp-28'? What kind of progress is this? What happened to adding new behavior as optional? PP _defaults_ to filling now? Since when does pretty-printing, in general, imply filling?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#75775; Package emacs.
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