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On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:59=E2=80=AFPM Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN=
eal.ca>
wrote:
> > +(defun dir-locals--base-file (directory)
> > + "Return readable `dir-locals-file' in DIRECTORY, or nil."
> > + (when (file-readable-p directory)
> > + (let* ((f (expand-file-name (if (eq system-type 'ms-dos)
> > + (dosified-file-name dir-locals-fil=
e)
> > + dir-locals-file)
> > + directory)))
> > + (when (and f
> > + (file-readable-p f)
> > + ;; FIXME: Aren't file-regular-p and
> > + ;; file-directory-p mutually exclusive?
> > + (file-regular-p f)
> > + (not (file-directory-p f)))
> > + f))))
>
> Please try and rephrase this so it can share its code with
> `dir-locals--all-files`.
>
I had a version that shared code, but was unsure if I should. I'll do that
again.
> +(ert-deftest files-test-dir-locals-2-solo ()
> > + "Test if solo `.dir-locals-2.el' is ignored."
> > + (find-file (ert-resource-file (concat
> "dir-locals-2-solo/dir-locals-2-solo.txt")))
> > + (should-not (local-variable-p 'dir-locals-2-loaded)))
>
> Avoid `find-file` which is only for interactive use.
> Use `find-file-noselect` instead (in both tests).
> [ I know it's used in a few other tests, but it's a bad habit: tests
> shouldn't mess with windows unless they really mean it. ]
>
> While at it, replace "Test if" by "Ensure that" so as to make it clear
> which behavior is desired.
>
I'll take a look.
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:59=E2=80=AFPM Stefan Monnier <<a href=3D"mail=
to:monnier@HIDDEN">monnier@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span>=
</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> +(defun dir-locals--base-file (dir=
ectory)<br>
> +=C2=A0 "Return readable `dir-locals-file' in DIRECTORY, or n=
il."<br>
> +=C2=A0 (when (file-readable-p directory)<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (let* ((f (expand-file-name (if (eq system-type 'ms=
-dos)<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (dosified-file-nam=
e dir-locals-file)<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 dir-locals-file)<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 directory)))<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (and f<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(file-r=
eadable-p f)<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0;; FIXM=
E: Aren't file-regular-p and<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0;; file=
-directory-p mutually exclusive?<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(file-r=
egular-p f)<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(not (f=
ile-directory-p f)))<br>
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 f))))<br>
<br>
Please try and rephrase this so it can share its code with<br>
`dir-locals--all-files`.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I had a version that shared =
code, but was unsure if I should.=C2=A0 I'll do that again.</div></div>=
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> +(ert-deftest files-test-dir-locals-2-solo ()<br>
> +=C2=A0 "Test if solo `.dir-locals-2.el' is ignored."<br=
>
> +=C2=A0 (find-file (ert-resource-file (concat "dir-locals-2-solo/=
dir-locals-2-solo.txt")))<br>
> +=C2=A0 (should-not (local-variable-p 'dir-locals-2-loaded)))<br>
<br>
Avoid `find-file` which is only for interactive use.<br>
Use `find-file-noselect` instead (in both tests).<br>
[ I know it's used in a few other tests, but it's a bad habit: test=
s<br>
=C2=A0 shouldn't mess with windows unless they really mean it.=C2=A0 ]<=
br>
<br>
While at it, replace "Test if" by "Ensure that" so as t=
o make it clear<br>
which behavior is desired.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I'll take a look.</div></di=
v></div>
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> +(defun dir-locals--base-file (directory)
> + "Return readable `dir-locals-file' in DIRECTORY, or nil."
> + (when (file-readable-p directory)
> + (let* ((f (expand-file-name (if (eq system-type 'ms-dos)
> + (dosified-file-name dir-locals-file)
> + dir-locals-file)
> + directory)))
> + (when (and f
> + (file-readable-p f)
> + ;; FIXME: Aren't file-regular-p and
> + ;; file-directory-p mutually exclusive?
> + (file-regular-p f)
> + (not (file-directory-p f)))
> + f))))
Please try and rephrase this so it can share its code with
`dir-locals--all-files`.
> +(ert-deftest files-test-dir-locals-2-solo ()
> + "Test if solo `.dir-locals-2.el' is ignored."
> + (find-file (ert-resource-file (concat "dir-locals-2-solo/dir-locals-2-solo.txt")))
> + (should-not (local-variable-p 'dir-locals-2-loaded)))
Avoid `find-file` which is only for interactive use.
Use `find-file-noselect` instead (in both tests).
[ I know it's used in a few other tests, but it's a bad habit: tests
shouldn't mess with windows unless they really mean it. ]
While at it, replace "Test if" by "Ensure that" so as to make it clear
which behavior is desired.
Stefan
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Subject: Re: bug#75890: 31.0.50; dir-locals{-2}.el is only found in directory
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:37=E2=80=AFPM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> wr=
ote:
> Patch attached, including tests. The other references to
> 'dir-locals--all-files' around the code base do not use
> 'locate-dominating-file', just the list from 'dir-locals--all-files', so
> they should be fine as is, using the list from 'dir-locals--all-files',
> which produces the base and -2 files only if found together.
>
> -Stephane
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 12:02=E2=80=AFPM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>=
wrote:
>
>> Let's do it in two steps, then. I'll first make the code and docs
>> match. I leave it up to you and Eli to guide on -2 being exclusively
>> coincident or can also be lower in the tree.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gma=
il.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
>>>
>>> > The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree
>>> base
>>> > file, so this is clearly wrong. When they are coincident, they are
>>> both
>>> > loaded with -2 overriding. The behavior should either be:
>>> >
>>> > 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is
>>> found
>>> > in the same directory
>>> >
>>> > 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el
>>> coincidental
>>> > with, or located further up the tree.
>>> >
>>> > Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.
>>>
>>> Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit
>>> and intention of the documentation. As for a fix, I think number 2
>>> makes more sense.
>>>
>>
Anything else needed for this?
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:37=E2=80=AFPM Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:sh=
ipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:monospace">=
Patch attached, including tests.=C2=A0 The other references to 'dir-loc=
als--all-files' around the code base do not use 'locate-dominating-=
file', just the list from 'dir-locals--all-files', so they shou=
ld be fine as is, using the list from 'dir-locals--all-files', whic=
h produces the base and -2 files only if found together.</div><div style=3D=
"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace">-Ste=
phane</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 12:02=E2=80=AFPM Ship Mints <<a href=
=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:monospace">Let's do it in two step=
s, then.=C2=A0 I'll first make the=C2=A0code and docs match.=C2=A0 I le=
ave it up to you and Eli to guide on -2 being exclusively coincident=C2=A0o=
r can also be lower=C2=A0in the tree.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:58=E2=
=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <<a href=3D"mailto:stefankangas@HIDDEN" target=
=3D"_blank">stefankangas@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmint=
s@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree b=
ase<br>
> file, so this is clearly wrong.=C2=A0 When they are coincident, they a=
re both<br>
> loaded with -2 overriding.=C2=A0 The behavior should either be:<br>
><br>
> 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is f=
ound<br>
> in the same directory<br>
><br>
> 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincident=
al<br>
> with, or located further up the tree.<br>
><br>
> Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.<br>
<br>
Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit<br>
and intention of the documentation.=C2=A0 As for a fix, I think number 2<br=
>
makes more sense.<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">An=
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Patch attached, including tests. The other references to
'dir-locals--all-files' around the code base do not use
'locate-dominating-file', just the list from 'dir-locals--all-files', so
they should be fine as is, using the list from 'dir-locals--all-files',
which produces the base and -2 files only if found together.
-Stephane
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 12:02=E2=80=AFPM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
> Let's do it in two steps, then. I'll first make the code and docs match.
> I leave it up to you and Eli to guide on -2 being exclusively coincident =
or
> can also be lower in the tree.
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmai=
l.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree
>> base
>> > file, so this is clearly wrong. When they are coincident, they are bo=
th
>> > loaded with -2 overriding. The behavior should either be:
>> >
>> > 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is
>> found
>> > in the same directory
>> >
>> > 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincident=
al
>> > with, or located further up the tree.
>> >
>> > Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.
>>
>> Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit
>> and intention of the documentation. As for a fix, I think number 2
>> makes more sense.
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">Patch attached, including tests.=C2=A0 The other references to 'dir-=
locals--all-files' around the code base do not use 'locate-dominati=
ng-file', just the list from 'dir-locals--all-files', so they s=
hould be fine as is, using the list from 'dir-locals--all-files', w=
hich produces the base and -2 files only if found together.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">-Stephane</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 12:02=E2=80=AFPM Ship Mints <<a href=3D=
"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Let's do it in two s=
teps, then.=C2=A0 I'll first make the=C2=A0code and docs match.=C2=A0 I=
leave it up to you and Eli to guide on -2 being exclusively coincident=C2=
=A0or can also be lower=C2=A0in the tree.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:5=
8=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <<a href=3D"mailto:stefankangas@HIDDEN" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">stefankangas@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:ship=
mints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree b=
ase<br>
> file, so this is clearly wrong.=C2=A0 When they are coincident, they a=
re both<br>
> loaded with -2 overriding.=C2=A0 The behavior should either be:<br>
><br>
> 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is f=
ound<br>
> in the same directory<br>
><br>
> 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincident=
al<br>
> with, or located further up the tree.<br>
><br>
> Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.<br>
<br>
Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit<br>
and intention of the documentation.=C2=A0 As for a fix, I think number 2<br=
>
makes more sense.<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
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Let's do it in two steps, then. I'll first make the code and docs match.
I leave it up to you and Eli to guide on -2 being exclusively coincident or
can also be lower in the tree.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.=
com>
wrote:
> Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree ba=
se
> > file, so this is clearly wrong. When they are coincident, they are bot=
h
> > loaded with -2 overriding. The behavior should either be:
> >
> > 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is
> found
> > in the same directory
> >
> > 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincidenta=
l
> > with, or located further up the tree.
> >
> > Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.
>
> Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit
> and intention of the documentation. As for a fix, I think number 2
> makes more sense.
>
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e">Let's do it in two steps, then.=C2=A0 I'll first make the=C2=A0c=
ode and docs match.=C2=A0 I leave it up to you and Eli to guide on -2 being=
exclusively coincident=C2=A0or can also be lower=C2=A0in the tree.</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas =
<<a href=3D"mailto:stefankangas@HIDDEN">stefankangas@HIDDEN</a>>=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Mi=
nts <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@=
gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree b=
ase<br>
> file, so this is clearly wrong.=C2=A0 When they are coincident, they a=
re both<br>
> loaded with -2 overriding.=C2=A0 The behavior should either be:<br>
><br>
> 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is f=
ound<br>
> in the same directory<br>
><br>
> 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincident=
al<br>
> with, or located further up the tree.<br>
><br>
> Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.<br>
<br>
Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit<br>
and intention of the documentation.=C2=A0 As for a fix, I think number 2<br=
>
makes more sense.<br>
</blockquote></div>
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Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
> The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree base
> file, so this is clearly wrong. When they are coincident, they are both
> loaded with -2 overriding. The behavior should either be:
>
> 1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is found
> in the same directory
>
> 2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincidental
> with, or located further up the tree.
>
> Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.
Thanks, I agree that the current behavior seems contrary to the spirit
and intention of the documentation. As for a fix, I think number 2
makes more sense.
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And that's what I'll do.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 11:28=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote=
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> > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:23:13 -0500
> > Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, monnier@HIDDEN,
> 75890 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > I think the documented behavior makes a lot of sense, we just need to
> > make sure the ode behaves as documented.
> >
> > The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree
> base file, so this is clearly wrong. When
> > they are coincident, they are both loaded with -2 overriding.
>
> Which is why I said that the _documented_ behavior makes sense, not
> the actual one. The actual behavior we should IMO fix so it matches
> the documentation.
>
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e gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb =
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> <br>
>=C2=A0 I think the documented behavior makes a lot of sense, we just ne=
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>=C2=A0 make sure the ode behaves as documented.<br>
> <br>
> The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree b=
ase file, so this is clearly wrong.=C2=A0 When<br>
> they are coincident, they are both loaded with -2 overriding.<br>
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Which is why I said that the _documented_ behavior makes sense, not<br>
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The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree base
file, so this is clearly wrong. When they are coincident, they are both
loaded with -2 overriding. The behavior should either be:
1. .dir-locals-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is found
in the same directory
2. .dir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincidental
with, or located further up the tree.
Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 9:37=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN=
om>
wrote:
> Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Looking deeper and gaining some clarity on this.
> >
> > The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -locals
> and
> > -locals-2 files "in the same directory will override". But this does n=
ot
> > mean replace, as I thought.
>
> There is a better explanation in the manual:
>
> You can also use =E2=80=98.dir-locals-2.el=E2=80=99; if found in the =
same directory
> as =E2=80=98.dir-locals.el=E2=80=99, Emacs loads it in addition to =
=E2=80=98.dir-locals.el=E2=80=99.
>
> I think we should improve the docstring; patches welcome.
>
> > The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed overlay th=
e
> > values, with -2 values taking precedence. It seems that this is the
> > intended behavior.
>
> Yes.
>
> > My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence wh=
en
> > one is found at a level equal to or lower in the tree than
> .dir-locals.el,
> > overriding variables as implemented, and change the dir-locals-file
> > docstring.
>
> And the .dir-locals.el is still loaded, right? If so, I think this
> makes sense, but the manual also has to be updated.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree bas=
e file, so this is clearly wrong.=C2=A0 When they are coincident, they are =
both loaded with -2 overriding.=C2=A0 The behavior should either=C2=A0be:</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">1. .dir-locals=
-2.el is ignored if no corresponding .dir-locals.el is found in the same di=
rectory</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">2. .d=
ir-locals-2.el is loaded iff there is a .dir-locals.el coincidental with, o=
r located further up the tree.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:monospace">Let's decide and I'll propose a patch.</div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 9:37=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Kangas <=
<a href=3D"mailto:stefankangas@HIDDEN">stefankangas@HIDDEN</a>> wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Mints =
<<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@gmai=
l.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> Looking deeper and gaining some clarity on this.<br>
><br>
> The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -local=
s and<br>
> -locals-2 files "in the same directory will override".=C2=A0=
But this does not<br>
> mean replace, as I thought.<br>
<br>
There is a better explanation in the manual:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 You can also use =E2=80=98.dir-locals-2.el=E2=80=99; if found=
in the same directory<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as =E2=80=98.dir-locals.el=E2=80=99, Emacs loads it in additi=
on to =E2=80=98.dir-locals.el=E2=80=99.<br>
<br>
I think we should improve the docstring; patches welcome.<br>
<br>
> The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed o=
verlay the<br>
> values, with -2 values taking precedence.=C2=A0 It seems that this is =
the<br>
> intended behavior.<br>
<br>
Yes.<br>
<br>
> My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence w=
hen<br>
> one is found at a level equal to or lower in the tree than .dir-locals=
.el,<br>
> overriding variables as implemented, and change the dir-locals-file<br=
>
> docstring.<br>
<br>
And the .dir-locals.el is still loaded, right?=C2=A0 If so, I think this<br=
>
makes sense, but the manual also has to be updated.<br>
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 9:29=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 09:09:58 -0500
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Stefan Monnier <
> monnier@HIDDEN>, 75890 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -locals
> and -locals-2 files "in the same directory
> > will override". But this does not mean replace, as I thought.
> >
> > The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed overlay th=
e
> values, with -2 values taking
> > precedence. It seems that this is the intended behavior.
> >
> > The docstring for dir-locals-file is incorrect both in spirit and the
> code in implementation.
> >
> > My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence
> when one is found at a level equal to or
> > lower in the tree than .dir-locals.el, overriding variables as
> implemented, and change the dir-locals-file
> > docstring.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Ignoring .dir-locals.el because there's .dir-locals-2.el in the same
> directory makes little sense to me, and its definitely a change in
> behavior and contrary to the intent.
>
> I think the documented behavior makes a lot of sense, we just need to
> make sure the ode behaves as documented.
>
The tested behavior is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree base
file, so this is clearly wrong. When they are coincident, they are both
loaded with -2 overriding.
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> <br>
> The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -local=
s and -locals-2 files "in the same directory<br>
> will override".=C2=A0 But this does not mean replace, as I though=
t.<br>
> <br>
> The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed o=
verlay the values, with -2 values taking<br>
> precedence.=C2=A0 It seems that this is the intended behavior.<br>
> <br>
> The docstring for dir-locals-file is incorrect both in spirit and the =
code in implementation.<br>
> <br>
> My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence w=
hen one is found at a level equal to or<br>
> lower in the tree than .dir-locals.el, overriding variables as impleme=
nted, and change the dir-locals-file<br>
> docstring.<br>
> <br>
> Thoughts?<br>
<br>
Ignoring .dir-locals.el because there's .dir-locals-2.el in the same<br=
>
directory makes little sense to me, and its definitely a change in<br>
behavior and contrary to the intent.<br>
<br>
I think the documented behavior makes a lot of sense, we just need to<br>
make sure the ode behaves as documented.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">The tested behavi=
or is that -2 gets loaded instead of an up-the-tree base file, so this is c=
learly wrong.=C2=A0 When they are coincident, they are both loaded with -2 =
overriding.</div></div></div>
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Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
> Looking deeper and gaining some clarity on this.
>
> The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -locals a=
nd
> -locals-2 files "in the same directory will override". But this does not
> mean replace, as I thought.
There is a better explanation in the manual:
You can also use =E2=80=98.dir-locals-2.el=E2=80=99; if found in the sa=
me directory
as =E2=80=98.dir-locals.el=E2=80=99, Emacs loads it in addition to =E2=
=80=98.dir-locals.el=E2=80=99.
I think we should improve the docstring; patches welcome.
> The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed overlay the
> values, with -2 values taking precedence. It seems that this is the
> intended behavior.
Yes.
> My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence when
> one is found at a level equal to or lower in the tree than .dir-locals.el=
,
> overriding variables as implemented, and change the dir-locals-file
> docstring.
And the .dir-locals.el is still loaded, right? If so, I think this
makes sense, but the manual also has to be updated.
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> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 09:09:58 -0500
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, 75890 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -locals and -locals-2 files "in the same directory
> will override". But this does not mean replace, as I thought.
>
> The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed overlay the values, with -2 values taking
> precedence. It seems that this is the intended behavior.
>
> The docstring for dir-locals-file is incorrect both in spirit and the code in implementation.
>
> My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence when one is found at a level equal to or
> lower in the tree than .dir-locals.el, overriding variables as implemented, and change the dir-locals-file
> docstring.
>
> Thoughts?
Ignoring .dir-locals.el because there's .dir-locals-2.el in the same
directory makes little sense to me, and its definitely a change in
behavior and contrary to the intent.
I think the documented behavior makes a lot of sense, we just need to
make sure the ode behaves as documented.
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Looking deeper and gaining some clarity on this.
The docstring for (defconst dir-locals-file definitely says the -locals and
-locals-2 files "in the same directory will override". But this does not
mean replace, as I thought.
The implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed overlay the
values, with -2 values taking precedence. It seems that this is the
intended behavior.
The docstring for dir-locals-file is incorrect both in spirit and the code
in implementation.
My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take precedence when
one is found at a level equal to or lower in the tree than .dir-locals.el,
overriding variables as implemented, and change the dir-locals-file
docstring.
Thoughts?
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 6:39=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> wr=
ote:
> The current docstring says -2 replaces not overlays. I was thinking abou=
t
> composition use cases, perhaps as an option with the existing convention,
> perhaps with a variable that could be present in the -2 file, perhaps as =
an
> alternate naming scheme for the overlay (e.g., -2 for replace, +2 for
> overlay). I have rarely used -2 because I intuitively expected it to
> have overlay semantics so I didn't have to copy pasta a .dir-locals.el ju=
st
> to change one thing.
>
> I'd be happy to work on making -2 take effect only if there is a
> sibling "master" file present in the same directory and table composabili=
ty
> for another discussion.
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 7:18=E2=80=AFPM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@tha=
odan.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > The user wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay =
a
>> > .dir-locals-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more
>> than
>> > one -2 file. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored a=
nd
>> > live in the user's local tree without being disturbed.
>>
>> Overlay as in replace or as in merge? The .dir-locals.el isn't used at
>> all if a -2 variant is found in a subdirectory.
>>
>> I see an advantage of using the -2 in addition to the dir-locals without
>> the suffix when the -2 comes from a subdirectory but not without. The
>> point is that none the projects configuration would be applied if they
>> are not merged in such a situation.
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">Looking deeper and gaining some clarity on this.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:monospace">The docstring for=C2=A0(defconst dir=
-locals-file definitely says the -locals and -locals-2 files "in the s=
ame directory will override".=C2=A0 But this does not mean replace, as=
I thought.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">T=
he implementation of 'dir-locals-read-from-dir' does indeed overlay=
the values, with -2 values taking precedence.=C2=A0 It seems that this is =
the intended behavior.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:m=
onospace">The docstring for dir-locals-file is incorrect both in spirit and=
the code in implementation.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:monospace">My inclination is to correct the behavior to have -2 take p=
recedence when one is found at a level equal to or lower in the tree than .=
dir-locals.el, overriding variables as implemented, and change the dir-loca=
ls-file docstring.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:m=
onospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monos=
pace">Thoughts?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mono=
space"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 6:39=E2=80=
=AFAM Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@gmail=
.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mono=
space">The current docstring says -2 replaces not overlays.=C2=A0 I was thi=
nking about composition use cases, perhaps as an option with the existing c=
onvention, perhaps with a variable that could be present in the -2 file, pe=
rhaps as an alternate naming scheme for the overlay (e.g., -2 for replace, =
+2 for overlay).=C2=A0=C2=A0I have rarely used -2 because I intuitively exp=
ected it to have=C2=A0overlay=C2=A0semantics so I didn't have to copy p=
asta a .dir-locals.el just to change one thing.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I'd be happy to work on making -2 ta=
ke effect only if there is a sibling=C2=A0"master" file present i=
n the same directory and table composability for another discussion.</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 7:18=E2=80=AFPM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <<a href=3D"mail=
to:bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Min=
ts <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@g=
mail.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> The user wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay =
a<br>
> .dir-locals-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more t=
han<br>
> one -2 file. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored a=
nd<br>
> live in the user's local tree without being disturbed. <br>
<br>
Overlay as in replace or as in merge? The .dir-locals.el isn't used at<=
br>
all if a -2 variant is found in a subdirectory.<br>
<br>
I see an advantage of using the -2 in addition to the dir-locals without<br=
>
the suffix when the -2 comes from a subdirectory but not without. The<br>
point is that none the projects configuration would be applied if they<br>
are not merged in such a situation.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
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The current docstring says -2 replaces not overlays. I was thinking about
composition use cases, perhaps as an option with the existing convention,
perhaps with a variable that could be present in the -2 file, perhaps as an
alternate naming scheme for the overlay (e.g., -2 for replace, +2 for
overlay). I have rarely used -2 because I intuitively expected it to
have overlay semantics so I didn't have to copy pasta a .dir-locals.el just
to change one thing.
I'd be happy to work on making -2 take effect only if there is a
sibling "master" file present in the same directory and table composability
for another discussion.
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 7:18=E2=80=AFPM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaod=
an.de> wrote:
> Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > The user wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay a
> > .dir-locals-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more th=
an
> > one -2 file. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored an=
d
> > live in the user's local tree without being disturbed.
>
> Overlay as in replace or as in merge? The .dir-locals.el isn't used at
> all if a -2 variant is found in a subdirectory.
>
> I see an advantage of using the -2 in addition to the dir-locals without
> the suffix when the -2 comes from a subdirectory but not without. The
> point is that none the projects configuration would be applied if they
> are not merged in such a situation.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">The current docstring says -2 replaces not overlays.=C2=A0 I was thinkin=
g about composition use cases, perhaps as an option with the existing conve=
ntion, perhaps with a variable that could be present in the -2 file, perhap=
s as an alternate naming scheme for the overlay (e.g., -2 for replace, +2 f=
or overlay).=C2=A0=C2=A0I have rarely used -2 because I intuitively expecte=
d it to have=C2=A0overlay=C2=A0semantics so I didn't have to copy pasta=
a .dir-locals.el just to change one thing.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:monospace">I'd be happy to work on making -2 take e=
ffect only if there is a sibling=C2=A0"master" file present in th=
e same directory and table composability for another discussion.</div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 7:18=E2=80=AFPM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN">bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Min=
ts <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@g=
mail.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> The user wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay =
a<br>
> .dir-locals-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more t=
han<br>
> one -2 file. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored a=
nd<br>
> live in the user's local tree without being disturbed. <br>
<br>
Overlay as in replace or as in merge? The .dir-locals.el isn't used at<=
br>
all if a -2 variant is found in a subdirectory.<br>
<br>
I see an advantage of using the -2 in addition to the dir-locals without<br=
>
the suffix when the -2 comes from a subdirectory but not without. The<br>
point is that none the projects configuration would be applied if they<br>
are not merged in such a situation.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
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Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:
> The user wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay a
> .dir-locals-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more than
> one -2 file. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored and
> live in the user's local tree without being disturbed.
Overlay as in replace or as in merge? The .dir-locals.el isn't used at
all if a -2 variant is found in a subdirectory.
I see an advantage of using the -2 in addition to the dir-locals without
the suffix when the -2 comes from a subdirectory but not without. The
point is that none the projects configuration would be applied if they
are not merged in such a situation.
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I would make the change, but upon reflection, I sense this may be
intentional behavior. Take for example the case where there's a shared
.dir-locals.el in the root of a project, and stored in source control. The
user wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay a
.dir-locals-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more than
one -2 file. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored and
live in the user's local tree without being disturbed. It's a form of
composition that someone out there is surely taking advantage of. I might.
-Stephane
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:25=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN>,
> > 75890 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:26:47 -0500
> >
> > > I guess I've misread the documentation. It seems that the "in the
> > > same directory" condition is for overriding the settings in
> > > .dir-locals.el, not for loading .dir-locals-2.el.
> >
> > I don't know whether the current behavior is the intended one, but FWIW=
,
> > I agree it would make a lot of sense to consult `.dir-locals-2.el` only
> > when we found a `.dir-locals.el` sibling (it would also make it cheap
> > to extend this to `.dir-locals-N.eld`).
>
> Would someone want to work on such a change?
>
>
>
>
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e">I would make the change, but upon reflection, I sense this may be intent=
ional=C2=A0behavior. Take for example the case where there's a shared .=
dir-locals.el in the root of a project, and stored in source control. The u=
ser wants to both use the .dir-locals.el at the root and overlay a .dir-loc=
als-2.el in a subdirectory of the project, perhaps with more than one -2 fi=
le. In the git-style world, those -2 files could be ignored and live in the=
user's local tree without being disturbed. It's a form of composit=
ion that someone out there is surely taking advantage of. I might.</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">-Stephane</div></div>=
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a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: Stefan Monnier <<a=
href=3D"mailto:monnier@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">monnier@HIDDEN=
ntreal.ca</a>><br>
> Cc: Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <<a href=3D"mailto:bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN" tar=
get=3D"_blank">bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN</a>>,<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:75890 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank"=
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> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:26:47 -0500<br>
> <br>
> > I guess I've misread the documentation.=C2=A0 It seems that t=
he "in the<br>
> > same directory" condition is for overriding the settings in<=
br>
> > .dir-locals.el, not for loading .dir-locals-2.el.<br>
> <br>
> I don't know whether the current behavior is the intended one, but=
FWIW,<br>
> I agree it would make a lot of sense to consult `.dir-locals-2.el` onl=
y<br>
> when we found a `.dir-locals.el` sibling (it would also make it cheap<=
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> to extend this to `.dir-locals-N.eld`).<br>
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Would someone want to work on such a change?<br>
<br>
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<br>
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> > I guess I've misread the documentation. It seems that the "in the
> > same directory" condition is for overriding the settings in
> > .dir-locals.el, not for loading .dir-locals-2.el.
>
> I don't know whether the current behavior is the intended one, but FWIW,
> I agree it would make a lot of sense to consult `.dir-locals-2.el` only
> when we found a `.dir-locals.el` sibling (it would also make it cheap
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> I guess I've misread the documentation. It seems that the "in the
> same directory" condition is for overriding the settings in
> .dir-locals.el, not for loading .dir-locals-2.el.
I don't know whether the current behavior is the intended one, but FWIW,
I agree it would make a lot of sense to consult `.dir-locals-2.el` only
when we found a `.dir-locals.el` sibling (it would also make it cheap
to extend this to `.dir-locals-N.eld`).
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>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> >> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: 75890-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 01:53:16 +0200
> >>
> >>
> >> Hm how should this be dealt with best as a user? dir-locals-2.el can
> >> override dir-locals.el from the parent directory with the current
> >> behavior.
> >
> > How so? .dir-locals-2.el is only loaded if there's .dir-locals.el in
> > the same directory, and AFAIU it is loaded as side effect of loading
> > .dir-locals.el. So what is the scenario when the override can happen?
>
> The scenario explained, e.g.:
>
> / is the project root in this case
>
> /.dir-locals.el
> /src/.dir-locals-2.el
>
> Only /src/.dir-locals-2.el is loaded not the /.dir-locals.el.
>
> >> E.g. the project as <project-root>/.dir-locals.el and the user has
> >> <project-root>/src/.dir-locals-2.el
> >>
> >> Meaning the -2 variant of dir-locals is the only one even if there's
> >> dir-locals.el further down the directory tree.
> >
> > AFAIU, in this scenario .dir-locals-2.el is not supposed to be loaded.
>
> Than that's a bug. IMHO there's a use case to load .dir-locals-2.el up
> or down the tree in a additional to the nearest .dir-locals.el but not alone.
I guess I've misread the documentation. It seems that the "in the
same directory" condition is for overriding the settings in
.dir-locals.el, not for loading .dir-locals-2.el.
Stefan, am I right?
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Subject: Re: bug#75890: 31.0.50; dir-locals{-2}.el is only found in
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 75890-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 01:53:16 +0200
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hm how should this be dealt with best as a user? dir-locals-2.el can
>> override dir-locals.el from the parent directory with the current
>> behavior.
>
> How so? .dir-locals-2.el is only loaded if there's .dir-locals.el in
> the same directory, and AFAIU it is loaded as side effect of loading
> .dir-locals.el. So what is the scenario when the override can happen?
The scenario explained, e.g.:
/ is the project root in this case
/.dir-locals.el
/src/.dir-locals-2.el
Only /src/.dir-locals-2.el is loaded not the /.dir-locals.el.
>> E.g. the project as <project-root>/.dir-locals.el and the user has
>> <project-root>/src/.dir-locals-2.el
>>=20
>> Meaning the -2 variant of dir-locals is the only one even if there's
>> dir-locals.el further down the directory tree.
>
> AFAIU, in this scenario .dir-locals-2.el is not supposed to be loaded.
Than that's a bug. IMHO there's a use case to load .dir-locals-2.el up
or down the tree in a additional to the nearest .dir-locals.el but not alon=
e.
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> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 75890-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 01:53:16 +0200
>
>
> Hm how should this be dealt with best as a user? dir-locals-2.el can
> override dir-locals.el from the parent directory with the current
> behavior.
How so? .dir-locals-2.el is only loaded if there's .dir-locals.el in
the same directory, and AFAIU it is loaded as side effect of loading
.dir-locals.el. So what is the scenario when the override can happen?
> E.g. the project as <project-root>/.dir-locals.el and the user has
> <project-root>/src/.dir-locals-2.el
>
> Meaning the -2 variant of dir-locals is the only one even if there's
> dir-locals.el further down the directory tree.
AFAIU, in this scenario .dir-locals-2.el is not supposed to be loaded.
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Subject: Re: bug#75890: 31.0.50; dir-locals{-2}.el is only found in
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Hm how should this be dealt with best as a user? dir-locals-2.el can
override dir-locals.el from the parent directory with the current
behavior.
E.g. the project as <project-root>/.dir-locals.el and the user has
<project-root>/src/.dir-locals-2.el
Meaning the -2 variant of dir-locals is the only one even if there's
dir-locals.el further down the directory tree.
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Oh that was fast, thanks.
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> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:46:54 +0200
> From: Björn Bidar via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>
>
> I noticed that dir-locals-2.el is only considered if it is in the directory
> that dir-locals.el is and vice versa.
>
> What I mean is that if ~/dev/gnu contains dir-locals-2.el
> and ~/dev/gnu/emacs contains .dir-locals.el only the latter is read.
> Similar if ~/dev/gnu/emacs/src/.dir-locals-2.el, the .dir-locals.el
> in ~/dev/emacs is not read.
>
> The manual does not specific that behavior but says it will traverse the
> directory tree down, from the point of view of the file which the
> variables are supposed to be applied to, and pick the first appropriate file but it doesn't
> say it will do that for both files at the same time.
Thanks, fixed on the emacs-30 branch, and closing the bug.
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the .dir-locals.el in ~/ [...]
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Content preview: I noticed that dir-locals-2.el is only considered if it is
in the directory that dir-locals.el is and vice versa. What I mean is that
if ~/dev/gnu contains dir-locals-2.el and ~/dev/gnu/emacs contains .dir-locals.el
only the latter is read. Similar if ~/dev/gnu/emacs/src/.dir-locals-2.el,
the .dir-locals.el in ~/ [...]
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I noticed that dir-locals-2.el is only considered if it is in the directory
that dir-locals.el is and vice versa.
What I mean is that if ~/dev/gnu contains dir-locals-2.el
and ~/dev/gnu/emacs contains .dir-locals.el only the latter is read.
Similar if ~/dev/gnu/emacs/src/.dir-locals-2.el, the .dir-locals.el
in ~/dev/emacs is not read.
The manual does not specific that behavior but says it will traverse the
directory tree down, from the point of view of the file which the
variables are supposed to be applied to, and pick the first appropriate file but it doesn't
say it will do that for both files at the same time.
In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2)
Repository revision: eaf5bf736e1dd5eb977a16a3f1b3dfd3da3c4612
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