Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>
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Of course, the docstring could be > changed to say that the arguments need to resolve to files and, if > not, the return value is unspecified. > > I will offer patches related to calling file-equal-p with incorrect > arguments as I've been doing, like to project.el. > > Please close this issue. Done. > -Stephane Best regards, Michael.
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Of course, the docstring could be changed to say that the arguments need to resolve to files and, if not, the return value is unspecified. I will offer patches related to calling file-equal-p with incorrect arguments as I've been doing, like to project.el. Please close this issue. -Stephane On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 3:05=E2=80=AFAM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx= .de> wrote: > Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes: > > Hi, > > > I think file-equal-p should accept nil arguments and consider the > > result unspecified as in its docstring: "If FILE1 or FILE2 does not > > exist, the return value is unspecified." > > This is against the docstring. file-equal-p has two arguments, "files > FILE1 and FILE2". nil is not a file. > > > Currently, file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are > > specified. > > As specified. We should not support to write too sloppy code. Getting an > error is often an indication, that the code using file-equal-p is not in > its best shape. > > > -Stephane > > Best regards. > --000000000000f985c8062d4e8b2b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">I am also against writing sloppy code, of course, but if a change like t= his can help avoid error signals for cases as I illustrated, I figured it w= as worth a discussion. Of course, the docstring could be changed to say tha= t the arguments need to resolve to files and, if not, the return value is u= nspecified.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><= div class=3D"gmail_default">I will offer patches related to calling file-eq= ual-p with incorrect arguments as I've been doing, like to project.el.<= /div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default">Pl= ease close this issue.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div cla= ss=3D"gmail_default">-Stephane</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo= te gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb= 4, 2025 at 3:05=E2=80=AFAM Michael Albinus <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.a= lbinus@HIDDEN">michael.albinus@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c= lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli= d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipm= ints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br> <br> Hi,<br> <br> > I think file-equal-p should accept nil arguments and consider the<br> > result unspecified as in its docstring: "If FILE1 or FILE2 does n= ot<br> > exist, the return value is unspecified."<br> <br> This is against the docstring. file-equal-p has two arguments, "files<= br> FILE1 and FILE2". nil is not a file.<br> <br> > Currently, file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are<br> > specified.<br> <br> As specified. We should not support to write too sloppy code. Getting an<br= > error is often an indication, that the code using file-equal-p is not in<br= > its best shape.<br> <br> > -Stephane<br> <br> Best regards.<br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000f985c8062d4e8b2b--
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This is against the docstring. file-equal-p has two arguments, "files FILE1 and FILE2". nil is not a file. > Currently, file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are > specified. As specified. We should not support to write too sloppy code. Getting an error is often an indication, that the code using file-equal-p is not in its best shape. > -Stephane Best regards.
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I'd simply add a stringp test and the result is unspecified, per the docstring, if the arguments aren't strings. On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:00=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:12:08 -0500 > > > > I think file-equal-p should accept nil arguments and consider the resul= t > unspecified as in its docstring: "If > > FILE1 or FILE2 does not exist, the return value is unspecified." > > > > Currently, file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are > specified. > > Yes, because nil is not a valid file name. So it neither exists nor > does not exist. It simply doesn't name a file. > > If we accept nil, then why not t or any other symbol or a number? > --000000000000655895062d4262ec Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">If the file can't be opened based on the arguments, then it will fai= l as it should. I'd simply add a stringp test and the result is unspeci= fied, per the docstring, if the arguments aren't strings.</div></div><b= r><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:00=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <<a= href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu= ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px= solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href= =3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>&g= t;<br> > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:12:08 -0500<br> > <br> > I think file-equal-p should accept nil arguments and consider the resu= lt unspecified as in its docstring: "If<br> > FILE1 or FILE2 does not exist, the return value is unspecified."<= br> > <br> > Currently, file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are speci= fied.<br> <br> Yes, because nil is not a valid file name.=C2=A0 So it neither exists nor<b= r> does not exist.=C2=A0 It simply doesn't name a file.<br> <br> If we accept nil, then why not t or any other symbol or a number?<br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000655895062d4262ec--
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charset="UTF-8" I think file-equal-p should accept nil arguments and consider the result unspecified as in its docstring: "If FILE1 or FILE2 does not exist, the return value is unspecified." Currently, file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are specified. -Stephane --0000000000009fc367062d40db8b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e"><div class=3D"gmail_default">I think file-equal-p should accept nil argu= ments and consider the result unspecified as in its docstring: "If FIL= E1 or FILE2 does not exist, the return value is unspecified."</div><di= v class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default">Currently,= file-equal-p signals an error when nil file names are specified.</div><div= class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default">-Stephane</= div></div></div> --0000000000009fc367062d40db8b--
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