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:bug#76194
; Package emacs
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This is undocumented >>>> since 2019, lacking (e.g. doesn't support signed packages), and is >>>> hardly used by anyone. For example, MELPA and GNU ELPA have their own >>>> scripts for this. >>>> >>>> If there is any interest in it, I'd suggest that interested parties >>>> should pick it up and continue its development on GNU ELPA instead. >>> >>> +1 >> >> +1 from me as well. > > Thanks. Now done. See commits f7867e68565 and 5d4927192a2. I'm consequently closing this bug report. >> Should we move the file to elpa.git? > > If you think it's worth the effort then feel free. Please go ahead with this if you think that it's appropriate.
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This is undocumented >>> since 2019, lacking (e.g. doesn't support signed packages), and is >>> hardly used by anyone. For example, MELPA and GNU ELPA have their own >>> scripts for this. >>> >>> If there is any interest in it, I'd suggest that interested parties >>> should pick it up and continue its development on GNU ELPA instead. >> >> +1 > > +1 from me as well. Thanks. > Should we move the file to elpa.git? If you think it's worth the effort then feel free.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#76194
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Full text available.Received: (at 76194) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2025 16:27:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 11:27:58 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tht78-0000sj-Ka for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 11:27:58 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:43419) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1tht75-0000sQ-82 for 76194 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 11:27:57 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0033240103 for <76194 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:27:46 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1739291266; bh=MG4K/6k9+hw83zA2vcFN5ulk4cD1TyXDjTaGvnI8S5c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:From; b=VCoX236he88VkwcJ2FrHTiTcEmSmdGjPSji+9nCKlJGq1KMnRdr2LiQH+ihFwp6u1 Y8N32awlP/dQlsbsRIHTy2ZLoDX8Vk5ngqKYjd2ygShgUaGjGOV8g1RF72BynL8Bws i0qs8TU67o19BSlBb8KNo14+yNTJLjMtUa3NvpwYnBNjeuIKlGGZQ69kkOwvJMA173 rpXc9kMNWV9rv5ZD6lC3JTDDW2sYuYIPaNRlmKEGavpF5pU6r5LDLs71xqtkLXcOX6 ufQHIBRTelrVYelKB+qd/BLvnyFBCruqoqNanf9rUh06Mll2w4rEKmDcFuYeEEAx/F mqEUduyapd4pQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Ysn0x5K2mz9rxP; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:27:44 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76194: Obsoleting package-x.el In-Reply-To: <jwvzfisa77e.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <CADwFkmn=4xwg0=MWZYbgdsnuz_OrjaOxZuwynmQrf5Vg0pv4PA@HIDDEN> <jwvzfisa77e.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@HIDDEN; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM OpenPGP: id=7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66"; preference=signencrypt Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:27:43 +0000 Message-ID: <878qqcqwe8.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76194 Cc: 76194 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: >> I think we should obsolete package-x.el, which contains largely >> unmaintained code to keep an ELPA package archive. This is undocumented >> since 2019, lacking (e.g. doesn't support signed packages), and is >> hardly used by anyone. For example, MELPA and GNU ELPA have their own >> scripts for this. >> >> If there is any interest in it, I'd suggest that interested parties >> should pick it up and continue its development on GNU ELPA instead. > > +1 +1 from me as well. Should we move the file to elpa.git? > > Stefan
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Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:10:55 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> X-Debbugs-CC: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:10:55 -0800 X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZnGbsxYajbbu0gzD0KMfh9RQ3O3n4CtwJ29dtOiRz3TXj3lz7yB-LBBPlM Message-ID: <CADwFkmn=4xwg0=MWZYbgdsnuz_OrjaOxZuwynmQrf5Vg0pv4PA@HIDDEN> Subject: Obsoleting package-x.el To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::634; envelope-from=stefankangas@HIDDEN; helo=mail-ej1-x634.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Severity: wishlist I think we should obsolete package-x.el, which contains largely unmaintained code to keep an ELPA package archive. This is undocumented since 2019, lacking (e.g. doesn't support signed packages), and is hardly used by anyone. For example, MELPA and GNU ELPA have their own scripts for this. If there is any interest in it, I'd suggest that interested parties should pick it up and continue its development on GNU ELPA instead.
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