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Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes:
Hi Stefan,
>>> If that is correct, could we stop relying on the compatibility aliases
>>> cl-cXXXXr now? These functions are built-in since Emacs 26.1. Please
>>> see the attached.
>>
>> Of course, feel free to apply the patch.
>
> Thanks, done in commit d06606ff42b.
Thanks.
> BTW, not that I know anything about the specifics of how Tramp is
> distributed, but should tramp.el have a "Package-Requires" header,
> perhaps?
No. See elpa-packages:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(tramp :url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/tramp.git"
:branch "externals/tramp"
:main-file "trampver.el"
:make ("autoloads" "info")
:doc "texi/tramp.texi")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
The main file is "trampver.el".
Best regards, Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#76249; Package emacs.
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Yes. > If that is correct, could we stop relying on the compatibility aliases > cl-cXXXXr now? These functions are built-in since Emacs 26.1. Please > see the attached. Of course, feel free to apply the patch. Best regards, Michael.
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charset="UTF-8" Severity: wishlist Hi Michael, IIUC, Tramp now requires Emacs 28.1 to run (based on the check in trampver.el). If that is correct, could we stop relying on the compatibility aliases cl-cXXXXr now? These functions are built-in since Emacs 26.1. 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