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30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>; Keywords: notabug; merged with #76575; dated Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:44:03 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Forcibly Merged 76526 76575. Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
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Thank you for the prompt response! kill-current-buffer works for me. In
addition, I agree that the name kill-this-buffer is a bit misleading,
because before 30.1, it had the same functionality as kill-current-buffer.
If it only applies to menu-bar now, making it explicit would be clearer,
just my humble opinion.

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 at 03:52, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > When did it stop someone from complaining?
>
> We do have our fair share of space bar heaters, that's true.
>
> https://xkcd.com/1172/
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,=
serif">Thank you for the prompt response! kill-current-buffer works for me.=
 In addition, I agree that the name kill-this-buffer is a bit misleading, b=
ecause before 30.1, it had the same functionality as kill-current-buffer. I=
f it only applies to menu-bar now, making it explicit would be clearer, jus=
t my humble opinion. <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 at 03:52, Stefan Kangas =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stefankangas@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">stefankanga=
s@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">Eli Zaretskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_bla=
nk">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; When did it stop someone from complaining?<br>
<br>
We do have our fair share of space bar heaters, that&#39;s true.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://xkcd.com/1172/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://xkcd.com/1172/</a><br>
</blockquote></div>

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> When did it stop someone from complaining?

We do have our fair share of space bar heaters, that's true.

https://xkcd.com/1172/




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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:35:53 +0000
> Cc: matrixfeeney@HIDDEN, 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> >> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
> >> Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >>
> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> >>
> >> > tags 76526 notabug
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> >> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>
> >> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
> >> >>
> >> >> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
> >> >> gives the output:
> >> >>
> >> >> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
> >> >> parameters"
> >> >>
> >> >> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
> >> >
> >> > Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
> >> >
> >> >   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
> >> >   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
> >> >   do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
> >> >   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
> >> >
> >> > This is not a bug.
> >>
> >> FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
> >> command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.
> >>
> >> Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
> >> menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
> >> mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.
> >
> > I don't see how a different name will help.  What can be more explicit
> > than what the doc string, which is the first place users should look
> > when a command doesn't do what they expect?
> 
> A different name is more explicit because you don't have to look at the
> docstring.

When did it stop someone from complaining?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
>> Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > tags 76526 notabug
>> > thanks
>> >
>> >> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>
>> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
>> >>
>> >> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistent=
ly
>> >> gives the output:
>> >>
>> >> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
>> >> parameters"
>> >>
>> >> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
>> >
>> > Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
>> >
>> >   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
>> >   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silentl=
y
>> >   do nothing or signal an error.  Use =E2=80=98kill-current-buffer=E2=
=80=99 if you
>> >   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
>> >
>> > This is not a bug.
>>
>> FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
>> command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.
>>
>> Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
>> menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
>> mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.
>
> I don't see how a different name will help.  What can be more explicit
> than what the doc string, which is the first place users should look
> when a command doesn't do what they expect?

A different name is more explicit because you don't have to look at the
docstring.




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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
> Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > tags 76526 notabug
> > thanks
> >
> >> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
> >>
> >> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
> >> gives the output:
> >>
> >> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
> >> parameters"
> >>
> >> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
> >
> > Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
> >
> >   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
> >   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
> >   do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
> >   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
> >
> > This is not a bug.
> 
> FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
> command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.
> 
> Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
> menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
> mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.

I don't see how a different name will help.  What can be more explicit
than what the doc string, which is the first place users should look
when a command doesn't do what they expect?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> tags 76526 notabug
> thanks
>
>> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
>>
>> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
>> gives the output:
>>
>> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
>> parameters"
>>
>> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
>
> Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
>
>   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
>   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
>   do nothing or signal an error.  Use =E2=80=98kill-current-buffer=E2=80=
=99 if you
>   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
>
> This is not a bug.

FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.

Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.




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tags 76526 notabug
thanks

> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
> 
> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
> gives the output:
> 
> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
> parameters"
> 
> and doesn't kill the current buffer.

Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:

  This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
  invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
  do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
  need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.

This is not a bug.




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I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
gives the output:

"command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
parameters"

and doesn't kill the current buffer.


In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41,
 cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-02-24 built on lcy02-amd64-070
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=C2=A0 indent-tabs-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-=
composition-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-compre=
ssion-mode: t<br><br>Load-path shadows:<br>None found.<br><br>Features:<br>=
(shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run<br>=
bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx emacsbug message mailcap yank-media<br=
>puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived<br=
>epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date subr-x<br>=
mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils<br>ma=
ilheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums<br>mm-util =
mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren<br>electric =
uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel<br>term/pgtk=
-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen pgtk-dnd tool-bar<br>dnd fontset=
 image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment<br>text-mode lis=
p-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow<br>isearch easy=
menu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax<br>font-core t=
erm/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic<br>indonesian=
 philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese<br>tibetan thai t=
ai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek<br>romanian slova=
k czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese<br>composite emoji-zwj ch=
arscript charprop case-table epa-hook<br>jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray =
oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs<br>theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macr=
oexp files window text-properties<br>overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env cod=
e-pages mule custom widget keymap<br>hashtable-print-readable backquote thr=
eads dbusbind inotify<br>dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-se=
tting cairo gtk pgtk<br>lcms2 multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process n=
ative-compile emacs)<br><br>Memory information:<br>((conses 16 65706 8820) =
(symbols 48 6702 0) (strings 32 16692 2342)<br>=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 591472=
) (vectors 16 10272)<br>=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 142405 6642) (floats 8 22 2) =
(intervals 56 291 0)<br>=C2=A0(buffers 992 11))<br></div>

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Acknowledgement sent to Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#76526; Package emacs. Full text available.
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