Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 76596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2025 17:49:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 23 13:49:50 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1twPSI-0006aF-B4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:49:50 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:59289) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1twPSD-0006Zr-Tq; Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:49:48 -0400 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DA57443B0; Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:49:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations In-Reply-To: <861puoj1ot.fsf@HIDDEN> Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <861pvjtbhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> <86y0xefro7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r034rb1d.fsf@HIDDEN> <86msdp2p5z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87plikyfkn.fsf@HIDDEN> <86h63w20fc.fsf@HIDDEN> <878qp0yitp.fsf@HIDDEN> <878qoyke9p.fsf@HIDDEN> <86r02qlqka.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wmcg3o5c.fsf@HIDDEN> <861puoj1ot.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87h63j63k0.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -100 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduheejheduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvfevufgjohhffffkfgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeffgeetfeevlefhleejfeeuheeiudeitdffhfdutdekfeffgffhveehteegueekheenucfkphepledurdduvdelrddutdehrdduudejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepledurdduvdelrddutdehrdduudejpdhhvghlohepmhgrihhlrdhgrghnughirdhnvghtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvthdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepgedprhgtphhtthhopegtohhnthhrohhlseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtohepjeeiheelieesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopehkihgtkhhinhhgvhgvghgrshesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopegvlhhiiiesghhnuhdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) close 76596 30.1.50 thanks >> >> >>> New values could be >> >> >>> >> >> >>> (const :tag "Cycle through file lines" cycle-files) >> >> >>> (const :tag "Stop on last/first file line" bounded-files)) >> >> >> >> >> >> Feel free. >> >> > >> >> > So here is the patch: >> >> >> >> Eli, this patch should go to emacs-30? >> > >> > AFAIU, these are new features, no? Why should they be in emacs-30? >> >> Because users might prefer to get the old behavior back in emacs-30. > > OK, then emacs-30 it is. So now pushed to emacs-30 and closed.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#76596; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 76596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2025 19:38:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 22 15:38:36 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45551 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tw4g0-0003IX-Cq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:38:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50266) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tw4fx-0003Hz-OP for 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:38:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tw4fs-0001wE-Bh; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:38:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=i7W9VuQ7+b/61//kkiJh9DK6vK666V/tXCQwXfiqW3I=; b=Ni2owqIADEZo rLnYozMTgabKaEHj6ZHuTyI3kHQmibCEd0RBmbL7tw+CU+pDyvimKkyehBjO1PhVMjas129Px4gr+ YQRCQKEliF8q6kP1ZMUjbcaol2JxkFOLKOFSLTUL4MTJlKlisYqd/YCJSdkh55M2ExgvY8JdmofB3 WufEwhRa5B0wdoGH1lnQq70o/U8y33Ni41WrrAuWhqMAa1d7xLgPR3QK9xk8IvYNvYK8qlPuJrAiA bGhv8AICwd3FunW+EERco4HY17+wPMG97iJQokso4U8HGiSHrAUAitUIJ1k7m44CsjbEwqp9JUtd0 xy0lMFyTzfiJsE5AXSgPxQ==; Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 21:38:26 +0200 Message-Id: <861puoj1ot.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87wmcg3o5c.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Juri Linkov on Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:39:59 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <861pvjtbhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> <86y0xefro7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r034rb1d.fsf@HIDDEN> <86msdp2p5z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87plikyfkn.fsf@HIDDEN> <86h63w20fc.fsf@HIDDEN> <878qp0yitp.fsf@HIDDEN> <878qoyke9p.fsf@HIDDEN> <86r02qlqka.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wmcg3o5c.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:39:59 +0200 > > >> >>> I'd like to add the new values under this bug report. > >> >>> > >> >>> Current values are > >> >>> > >> >>> (const :tag "Cycle through non-empty lines" cycle) > >> >>> (const :tag "Stop on last/first non-empty line" bounded)) > >> >>> > >> >>> New values could be > >> >>> > >> >>> (const :tag "Cycle through file lines" cycle-files) > >> >>> (const :tag "Stop on last/first file line" bounded-files)) > >> >> > >> >> Feel free. > >> > > >> > So here is the patch: > >> > >> Eli, this patch should go to emacs-30? > > > > AFAIU, these are new features, no? Why should they be in emacs-30? > > Because users might prefer to get the old behavior back in emacs-30. OK, then emacs-30 it is. Thanks.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#76596; Package emacs.
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Not wrapping is an option, but IMO > > it's maybe not needed (I kept it as an option, to provide the vanilla > > Dired behavior). Likewise, as I say, I see no real need to skip blank > > lines. YMMV. >=20 > Do you need such wrapping in other modes too, not only in Dired? Dunno what other places it would be helpful.=20 But maybe other "listing" buffers (occur, buffer menu/ibuffer, bookmarks,..= .)? Maybe tabulated-list buffers? It should be optional, wherever it's added, IMO. Isearch was probably the first place in Emacs to add wrapping. Unless I'm f= orgetting something else obvious. > >> > Please tell me why cycling doesn't logically apply to `C-M-n', > >> > `C-M-p', `>', and `<'. > >> > >> `>' and `<' are already cycling, > >> while `C-M-n' and `C-M-p' aren't. > > > > Why shouldn't they? >=20 > They could if someone will implement this. It's implemented in dired+.el. Feel free to take it or use it as inspiratio= n for a different implementation. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/dired%2.el
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It wraps directly to the first > file/dir listed in the buffer, under the main directory header line. So the empty line at the end of the buffer is skipped, ok. >> Why might anyone want this? > > Do you mean why would anyone want to stop at the blank line at the > end, instead of wrapping? Dunno. I even wonder why anyone would want > to not wrap - but some people apparently do. Maybe it helps with some > keyboard macros? > > I also don't care about skipping blank lines, personally. > > I do care about wrapping - for ALL of the navigation keys > I mentioned. That's what's really needed, IMO. Not wrapping is an option, > but IMO it's maybe not needed (I kept it as an option, to provide the > vanilla Dired behavior). Likewise, as I say, I see no real need to skip > blank lines. YMMV. Do you need such wrapping in other modes too, not only in Dired? >> > Please tell me why cycling doesn't logically apply to `C-M-n', >> > `C-M-p', `>', and `<'. >> >> `>' and `<' are already cycling, >> while `C-M-n' and `C-M-p' aren't. > > Why shouldn't they? They could if someone will implement this.
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Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying or what you did. If you mean that you try `n' and `p' (and the others I mentioned) after loa= ding dired+.el then you should see cycling, not stopping (at all) at the em= pty line at the end of the Dired buffer. It wraps directly to the first fil= e/dir listed in the buffer, under the main directory header line. > Why might anyone want this? Do you mean why would anyone want to stop at the blank line at the end, ins= tead of wrapping? Dunno. I even wonder why anyone would want to not wrap - = but some people apparently do. Maybe it helps with some keyboard macros? I also don't care about skipping blank lines, personally.=20 I do care about wrapping - for ALL of the navigation keys I mentioned. That= 's what's really needed, IMO. Not wrapping is an option, but IMO it's maybe= not needed (I kept it as an option, to provide the vanilla Dired behavior)= . Likewise, as I say, I see no real need to skip blank lines. YMMV. > > Please tell me why cycling doesn't logically apply to `C-M-n', > > `C-M-p', `>', and `<'. >=20 > `>' and `<' are already cycling, > while `C-M-n' and `C-M-p' aren't. Why shouldn't they?
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>> I'd like to add the new values under this bug report.
>>
>> Current values are
>>
>> (const :tag "Cycle through non-empty lines" cycle)
>> (const :tag "Stop on last/first non-empty line" bounded))
>>
>> New values could be
>>
>> (const :tag "Cycle through file lines" cycle-files)
>> (const :tag "Stop on last/first file line" bounded-files))
>
> Feel free.
So here is the patch:
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diff --git a/lisp/dired.el b/lisp/dired.el
index c00ae0fde7d..f735747e991 100644
--- a/lisp/dired.el
+++ b/lisp/dired.el
@@ -518,10 +518,14 @@ dired-movement-style
to the first/last visible line.
* `bounded': don't move up/down if the current line is the
first/last visible line.
+ * `cycle-files': like `cycle' but moves only over file lines.
+ * `bounded-files': like `bounded' but moves only over file lines.
Any other non-nil value is treated as `bounded'."
:type '(choice (const :tag "Move to any line" nil)
(const :tag "Cycle through non-empty lines" cycle)
- (const :tag "Stop on last/first non-empty line" bounded))
+ (const :tag "Cycle through file lines" cycle-files)
+ (const :tag "Stop on last/first non-empty line" bounded)
+ (const :tag "Stop on last/first file line" bounded-files)))
:group 'dired
:version "30.1")
@@ -2925,7 +2929,7 @@ dired--move-to-next-line
;; but it still wants to move farther.
(cond
;; `cycle': go to the other end.
- ((eq dired-movement-style 'cycle)
+ ((memq dired-movement-style '(cycle cycle-files))
;; Argument not changing on the second wrap
;; means infinite loop with no files found.
(if (and wrapped (eq old-arg arg))
@@ -2937,7 +2941,8 @@ dired--move-to-next-line
;; `bounded': go back to the last non-empty line.
(dired-movement-style ; Either 'bounded or anything else non-nil.
(while (and (dired-between-files)
- (not (dired-get-subdir))
+ (or (eq dired-movement-style 'bounded-files)
+ (not (dired-get-subdir)))
(not (zerop arg)))
(funcall jumpfun (- moving-down))
;; Point not moving means infinite loop.
@@ -2946,9 +2951,12 @@ dired--move-to-next-line
(setq old-position (point))))
;; Encountered a boundary, so let's stop movement.
(setq arg (if (and (dired-between-files)
- (not (dired-get-subdir)))
+ (or (eq dired-movement-style 'bounded-files)
+ (not (dired-get-subdir))))
0 moving-down)))))
- (unless (and (dired-between-files) (not (dired-get-subdir)))
+ (unless (and (dired-between-files)
+ (or (memq dired-movement-style '(cycle-files bounded-files))
+ (not (dired-get-subdir))))
;; Has moved to a non-empty line. This movement does
;; make sense.
(decf arg moving-down))
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Full text available.Received: (at 76596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2025 10:36:23 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 13 06:36:23 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tsfvL-0005MA-Cc for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 06:36:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58344) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tsfvI-0005Lr-Ge for 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 06:36:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tsfvB-0004SE-Ks; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 06:36:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=8Th1cC+37n9QquW4hoR2ge98KedumRy5iP8Zvaajtww=; b=CEtfw+KUNSkf q+CY8Jpk+qkHNmeGpQzIUEUvV/UO/DlTmgQzKPsdFGDd0YBA4roLlJBXX9ZiJoYLZFpaqmk3L3EWX tt7bn4mpIPlwTjzzIn6r0PYicD4ginGN+Gm1qQ/RUhqHzvgjffzVYn4C7BysI+xjZQBS2NWp3nVLx jdp82xjiNQF8Ux1vQZLU0wxPdRNCQULcG9HZlvxSpfPPAfuhf7HQZJt3eDpnhYz7EFmB+Z+BIu8Wy pr+haq2kyL/oVF+GyVH/XbBDQg0KZ62PIC1oX39IPKzl4bGg3ghxH8xv6HZP7aWaQeuJOT9ayE4UC GxZbLWAMBfcUXBgV5Os3tg==; Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 12:36:08 +0200 Message-Id: <86msdp2p5z.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87r034rb1d.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Juri Linkov on Mon, 10 Mar 2025 20:33:02 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <861pvjtbhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> <86y0xefro7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r034rb1d.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 20:33:02 +0200 > > > Ping! Juri, could you please answer my question below? > > > >> > >> I'm not sure what is the behavior expected by most users? > >> > >> It seems the intention for this feature was to visit only > >> > >> filename lines with n, p, C-p, C-n, > >> > > > >> > > I initially thought about that, but (a) the documentation says > >> > > something else, and (b) the original implementation, before your > >> > > changes mentioned above, indeed skipped only empty lines, not any > >> > > lines that don't show a file name. So I changed my mind about that. > >> > > >> > Maybe this preference should be defined by the option? > >> > Or by a new value of the existing option? > >> > >> Yes, additional value(s) of the option would be good if we want to > >> have both behaviors. > >> > >> Are you okay with me installing my patch, and then you working on > >> adding the new value(s)? > > I guess this is okay, since then later we could just add a condition > that uses the new value. Thanks, done. Let me know if you want to leave this bug open, or close it and file another bug for the new values you wanted to add.
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Full text available.Received: (at 76596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2025 10:02:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 09 06:02:29 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1trDUK-00069D-Lr for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 06:02:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48820) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1trDUI-000691-PB for 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 06:02:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1trDUD-00026e-5y; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 06:02:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7qMgZz2A7l/zDQ9PypUCbzsjzhVrHbvYVkpqwMYAayA=; b=MXoj4NI7ag/P USJ1bzfWjAWDIWxDATHfyP1D6X38rtuJcJ//nTRDtoqxbpUbmnK30eHpherzCODR/jQ2sP3zGBcXV 3amL0I5nLZj2mqCiDreQnIvMcoeRHiUFgIdsH89u47R3WprOqNiy//bXIlUW3CsYPYehGI0k1BanK LWw/knNFc5DYyCTxYcPYfMs/N5YjlQEehUzQBKhPteWaGWUnQJ+tc8/q9tFYFj3nVm6nMgm9TPTJO zm5Xdp20YB4uM6KTjtmbQPS8BBOTXpjF4GV43JEyggqF062+aK3z2rsR3I41auDOIC+Ri9KNvPtpL jperY7iMyENKGwRxiZckFA==; Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 12:02:16 +0200 Message-Id: <86y0xefro7.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: juri@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:57:49 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <861pvjtbhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Ping! Juri, could you please answer my question below? > Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:57:49 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > > Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:12:58 +0200 > > > > >> I'm not sure what is the behavior expected by most users? > > >> It seems the intention for this feature was to visit only > > >> filename lines with n, p, C-p, C-n, > > > > > > I initially thought about that, but (a) the documentation says > > > something else, and (b) the original implementation, before your > > > changes mentioned above, indeed skipped only empty lines, not any > > > lines that don't show a file name. So I changed my mind about that. > > > > Maybe this preference should be defined by the option? > > Or by a new value of the existing option? > > Yes, additional value(s) of the option would be good if we want to > have both behaviors. > > Are you okay with me installing my patch, and then you working on > adding the new value(s)? > > > >
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[73.170.198.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-223501d35a4sm98429815ad.35.2025.03.04.09.13.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.400.131.1.6\)) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 09:13:03 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7C23D3EC-9CDE-4289-85C1-EA8051DED30C@HIDDEN> References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <861pvjtbhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.400.131.1.6) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli -=20 It is not clear to me the value of having an option to prevent = navigating to subdirs to reproduce the behavior shipped in 30.1. Why = enforce two separate commands of navigation based on type? To me, subdir = navigation is a subset of line navigation where line navigation moves = the point to any non-blank line, and subdir navigation only applies to = subdirs. If it is insisted that enforcing separate commands for type navigation = (file/directory, subdir) be supported, then please do _not_ make this = option the default for dired-movement-style. I still consider such an = option to be a user interface mistake. Respectfully - Charles =E2=80=94 Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D. kickingvegas@HIDDEN > On Mar 4, 2025, at 6:57=E2=80=AFAM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> = wrote: >=20 > Yes, additional value(s) of the option would be good if we want to > have both behaviors. >=20 > Are you okay with me installing my patch, and then you working on > adding the new value(s)?
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Full text available.Received: (at 76596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2025 14:58:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 04 09:57:59 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60345 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tpTiZ-0000Tf-GE for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:57:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tpTiX-0000TU-6B for 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:57:57 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tpTiR-00006y-7A; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:57:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RP/xqxs1ZjaSEELbQIWI9RFAta7CALWKiw3EJTrNcBg=; b=cOKWSziY+Tn3 yX5omc2QnB9YTr0//tpEPgNaVfnJzFhQvnbAYzoCvAwIkZOCQBXRB+ES1yahOPXPMqDKKRXQN9A8i s0e5IEH1oun4no7wWefJOWfBa+GvDh4/+c9yL7FnCTYU0pYH8kUaaw88/LSx1UQnlupudpNiQS4fR 1McB3rf8FKCfIh2BWGewxdPbZjNBeuK6E5jv5Me4Z26S84YAbC/XA2pJ8xPIV1AGrHwy1iOzfSIKR t4J56xP0DrkNTqozllKD7STUfOK8luLt/QrMAUEssF7/K58v+kW2jgWoMHHP9SCFcaBGQV0m2eZD4 XNuVtbvgEgjgDCQm2wU1WA==; Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:57:49 +0200 Message-Id: <8634fskfma.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:12:58 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <861pvjtbhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5a1nval.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > Cc: kickingvegas@HIDDEN, 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 09:12:58 +0200 > > >> I'm not sure what is the behavior expected by most users? > >> It seems the intention for this feature was to visit only > >> filename lines with n, p, C-p, C-n, > > > > I initially thought about that, but (a) the documentation says > > something else, and (b) the original implementation, before your > > changes mentioned above, indeed skipped only empty lines, not any > > lines that don't show a file name. So I changed my mind about that. > > Maybe this preference should be defined by the option? > Or by a new value of the existing option? Yes, additional value(s) of the option would be good if we want to have both behaviors. Are you okay with me installing my patch, and then you working on adding the new value(s)?
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[73.170.198.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 98e67ed59e1d1-2fe8284f064sm4139513a91.40.2025.02.27.10.29.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Feb 2025 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.400.131.1.6\)) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 10:29:04 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3299B9A5-E4FA-4C26-9734-83C9149D2DCF@HIDDEN> References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.400.131.1.6) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli -=20 Thanks much for the response. I=E2=80=99ve manually applied the patch to = my local dired.el and have verified that the expected behavior for = dired-next-line and dired-previous-line to move the point on a subdir = works for all values of dired-movement-style. All my best -=20 Charles =E2=80=94 Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D. kickingvegas@HIDDEN > On Feb 26, 2025, at 11:53=E2=80=AFPM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> = wrote: >=20 >> From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@HIDDEN> >> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:06:14 -0800 >>=20 >>=20 >> **** Title >> dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations. >>=20 >> **** Description >>=20 >> Setting dired-movement-style to a non-nil value prevents moving the = point to=20 >>=20 >> **** Environment >> GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, aarch64-apple-darwin24.3.0, NS = appkit-2575.40 Version 15.3.1 (Build 24D70)) of 2025-02-25 >> i--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >>=20 >> **** Steps to Reproduce >> 1. Open Dired on a directory with sub-directories. >> 2. Open subdir in Dired. >> 3. M-x customize-variable dired-movement-style >> 4. Set dired-movement-style value to "Cycle through non-empty lines" >> 5. Navigate point via n, p, C-p, C-n to subdir >>=20 >>=20 >> **** Expected Result >> Point should land on subdir. >>=20 >> **** Actual Result >> Point avoids subdir, preventing running operations on it such as = removing it (C-u k). >=20 > Juri, this seems to be due to your changes in commit 29d42d9158ae: > dired-between-files returns non-nil when on a subdirectory line, so > Dired thinks it's an empty line. >=20 > Charles, does the patch below give good results? >=20 > Juri, do you agree with the patch? It should go to the release > branch. >=20 > diff --git a/lisp/dired.el b/lisp/dired.el > index 90d944c..17c8ba5 100644 > --- a/lisp/dired.el > +++ b/lisp/dired.el > @@ -2888,15 +2888,19 @@ dired--move-to-next-line > (setq wrapped t)) > ;; `bounded': go back to the last non-empty line. > (dired-movement-style ; Either 'bounded or anything else = non-nil. > - (while (and (dired-between-files) (not (zerop arg))) > + (while (and (dired-between-files) > + (not (dired-get-subdir)) > + (not (zerop arg))) > (funcall jumpfun (- moving-down)) > ;; Point not moving means infinite loop. > (if (=3D old-position (point)) > (setq arg 0) > (setq old-position (point)))) > ;; Encountered a boundary, so let's stop movement. > - (setq arg (if (dired-between-files) 0 moving-down))))) > - (unless (dired-between-files) > + (setq arg (if (and (dired-between-files) > + (not (dired-get-subdir))) > + 0 moving-down))))) > + (unless (and (dired-between-files) (not (dired-get-subdir))) > ;; Has moved to a non-empty line. This movement does > ;; make sense. > (cl-decf arg moving-down))
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[73.170.198.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 98e67ed59e1d1-2fe825a99a7sm4485480a91.6.2025.02.27.10.04.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Feb 2025 10:04:04 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.400.131.1.6\)) Subject: Re: bug#76596: 30.1; dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 10:03:53 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <D04BA3F3-4C42-4B55-A078-FC66C6911510@HIDDEN> References: <062BC3F1-D2C0-4077-9DB3-684717887E05@HIDDEN> <867c5bvn6q.fsf@HIDDEN> <874j0fwa0q.fsf@HIDDEN> To: 76596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.400.131.1.6) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76596 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Juri - The notion of navigation only by type is I think too restrictive, = particularly for dired-next-line and dired-previous-line. My expectation is that those two commands should also work on subdirs, = and I don't think I'm alone in thinking this. Charles =E2=80=94 Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D. kickingvegas@HIDDEN > On Feb 27, 2025, at 9:52=E2=80=AFAM, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> = wrote: >=20 > I'm not sure what is the behavior expected by most users? > It seems the intention for this feature was to visit only > filename lines with n, p, C-p, C-n, since there are already > special commands to visit subdir lines with C-M-n, C-M-p and M-G.
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dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations
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> From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:06:14 -0800
>
>
> **** Title
> dired-movement-style does not honor subdir operations.
>
> **** Description
>
> Setting dired-movement-style to a non-nil value prevents moving the point to
>
> **** Environment
> GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, aarch64-apple-darwin24.3.0, NS appkit-2575.40 Version 15.3.1 (Build 24D70)) of 2025-02-25
> i--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> **** Steps to Reproduce
> 1. Open Dired on a directory with sub-directories.
> 2. Open subdir in Dired.
> 3. M-x customize-variable dired-movement-style
> 4. Set dired-movement-style value to "Cycle through non-empty lines"
> 5. Navigate point via n, p, C-p, C-n to subdir
>
>
> **** Expected Result
> Point should land on subdir.
>
> **** Actual Result
> Point avoids subdir, preventing running operations on it such as removing it (C-u k).
Juri, this seems to be due to your changes in commit 29d42d9158ae:
dired-between-files returns non-nil when on a subdirectory line, so
Dired thinks it's an empty line.
Charles, does the patch below give good results?
Juri, do you agree with the patch? It should go to the release
branch.
diff --git a/lisp/dired.el b/lisp/dired.el
index 90d944c..17c8ba5 100644
--- a/lisp/dired.el
+++ b/lisp/dired.el
@@ -2888,15 +2888,19 @@ dired--move-to-next-line
(setq wrapped t))
;; `bounded': go back to the last non-empty line.
(dired-movement-style ; Either 'bounded or anything else non-nil.
- (while (and (dired-between-files) (not (zerop arg)))
+ (while (and (dired-between-files)
+ (not (dired-get-subdir))
+ (not (zerop arg)))
(funcall jumpfun (- moving-down))
;; Point not moving means infinite loop.
(if (= old-position (point))
(setq arg 0)
(setq old-position (point))))
;; Encountered a boundary, so let's stop movement.
- (setq arg (if (dired-between-files) 0 moving-down)))))
- (unless (dired-between-files)
+ (setq arg (if (and (dired-between-files)
+ (not (dired-get-subdir)))
+ 0 moving-down)))))
+ (unless (and (dired-between-files) (not (dired-get-subdir)))
;; Has moved to a non-empty line. This movement does
;; make sense.
(cl-decf arg moving-down))
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Open Dired on a directory with sub-directories. 2. Open subdir in Dired. 3. M-x customize-variable dired-movement-style 4. Set dired-movement-style value to "Cycle through non-empty lines" 5. Navigate point via n, p, C-p, C-n to subdir **** Expected Result Point should land on subdir. **** Actual Result Point avoids subdir, preventing running operations on it such as = removing it (C-u k). 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Memory information: ((conses 16 2115083 235089) (symbols 48 74485 2) (strings 32 375561 = 21084) (string-bytes 1 11276924) (vectors 16 161157) (vector-slots 8 2658645 = 247053) (floats 8 1594 19970) (intervals 56 57107 4124) (buffers 992 128)) =E2=80=94 Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D. kickingvegas@HIDDEN
Charles Choi <kickingvegas@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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