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   Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used in etags were

   RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS | RE_FRUGAL

   that got changed to 0. Including a patch that restores
   RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check for these features
   to the test. As far I can understand from the bug 74861, the
   absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching won't be fixed
   until Gnulib supports them


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> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:28:45 +0200
> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> 
>    Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used in etags were
> 
>    RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS | RE_FRUGAL
> 
>    that got changed to 0. Including a patch that restores
>    RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check for these features
>    to the test. As far I can understand from the bug 74861, the
>    absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching won't be fixed
>    until Gnulib supports them

Thanks.

Paul, any comments?

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On 2025-03-11 10:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:28:45 +0200
>> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
>>
>>   =C2=A0 Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used in etags were
>>
>>   =C2=A0 RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS | RE_FRUGAL
>>
>>   =C2=A0 that got changed to 0. Including a patch that restores
>>   =C2=A0 RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check for these fea=
tures
>>   =C2=A0 to the test. As far I can understand from the bug 74861, the
>>   =C2=A0 absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching won't be fixed
>>   =C2=A0 until Gnulib supports them
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> Paul, any comments?

As I understand it the original design for glibc regex was that Emacs=20
was the default, so a flags value of zero meant Emacs. This is why=20
RE_SYNTAX_EMACS is 0.

Evidently that design goal no longer holds, so it makes sense to adjust=20
Emacs's use of glibc flags to match the behavior of Emacs's only=20
regular-expression implementation in emacs/src/regex-emacs.c as best we c=
an.

However, surely this adjustment should be made in Gnulib, not in=20
etags.c. That is, gnulib/lib/regex.h (aka emacs/lib/regex.h) should=20
#define RE_SYNTAX_EMACS to equal RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS, not=20
zero. And eventually this change should be migrated back to glibc.

I'll cc this to rms in case he has further comments about this.

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Excuse me but I have a question. If Gnulib is a collection of utility code
to be used by all projects, why is carrying something Emacs specific? Is
RE_SYNTAX_EMACS used by other projects?

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 7:58=E2=80=AFPM Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> wr=
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> On 2025-03-11 10:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:28:45 +0200
> >> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> >>
> >>     Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used in etags were
> >>
> >>     RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS | RE_FRUGAL
> >>
> >>     that got changed to 0. Including a patch that restores
> >>     RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check for these features
> >>     to the test. As far I can understand from the bug 74861, the
> >>     absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching won't be fixed
> >>     until Gnulib supports them
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Paul, any comments?
>
> As I understand it the original design for glibc regex was that Emacs
> was the default, so a flags value of zero meant Emacs. This is why
> RE_SYNTAX_EMACS is 0.
>
> Evidently that design goal no longer holds, so it makes sense to adjust
> Emacs's use of glibc flags to match the behavior of Emacs's only
> regular-expression implementation in emacs/src/regex-emacs.c as best we
> can.
>
> However, surely this adjustment should be made in Gnulib, not in
> etags.c. That is, gnulib/lib/regex.h (aka emacs/lib/regex.h) should
> #define RE_SYNTAX_EMACS to equal RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS, not
> zero. And eventually this change should be migrated back to glibc.
>
> I'll cc this to rms in case he has further comments about this.
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Excuse me but I have a question. If Gnulib is a collection=
 of utility code to be used by all projects, why is carrying something Emac=
s specific? Is RE_SYNTAX_EMACS used by other projects?<br></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 7:58=E2=80=AFPM Paul Eggert &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:eggert@HIDDEN">eggert@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2025-03-11 10:41, Eli Zaretski=
i wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:28:45 +0200<br>
&gt;&gt; From: Vladimir Gorsunov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gorsunov@HIDDEN" =
target=3D"_blank">gorsunov@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used =
in etags were<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS =
| RE_FRUGAL<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 that got changed to 0. Including a patch that r=
estores<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check=
 for these features<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 to the test. As far I can understand from the b=
ug 74861, the<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching w=
on&#39;t be fixed<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 until Gnulib supports them<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Paul, any comments?<br>
<br>
As I understand it the original design for glibc regex was that Emacs <br>
was the default, so a flags value of zero meant Emacs. This is why <br>
RE_SYNTAX_EMACS is 0.<br>
<br>
Evidently that design goal no longer holds, so it makes sense to adjust <br=
>
Emacs&#39;s use of glibc flags to match the behavior of Emacs&#39;s only <b=
r>
regular-expression implementation in emacs/src/regex-emacs.c as best we can=
.<br>
<br>
However, surely this adjustment should be made in Gnulib, not in <br>
etags.c. That is, gnulib/lib/regex.h (aka emacs/lib/regex.h) should <br>
#define RE_SYNTAX_EMACS to equal RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS, not <br>
zero. And eventually this change should be migrated back to glibc.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll cc this to rms in case he has further comments about this.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Mit Respekt, Vladimir Gorsunov<br></div></div>

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On 3/11/25 15:30, Vladimir Gorsunov wrote:
> If Gnulib is a collection of utility code
> to be used by all projects, why is carrying something Emacs specific? Is
> RE_SYNTAX_EMACS used by other projects?

Zile (an Emacs clone) uses it, and it's used in higher-level libraries 
that front for the GNU C library, e.g., [1].

[1]: https://github.com/jddurand/re-engine-GNU

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Ping!  Can we make some progress in resolving this?

Richard, do you have any comments?

> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:58:58 -0700
> Cc: 76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN>,
>  Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>
> 
> On 2025-03-11 10:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:28:45 +0200
> >> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> >>
> >>     Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used in etags were
> >>
> >>     RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS | RE_FRUGAL
> >>
> >>     that got changed to 0. Including a patch that restores
> >>     RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check for these features
> >>     to the test. As far I can understand from the bug 74861, the
> >>     absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching won't be fixed
> >>     until Gnulib supports them
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Paul, any comments?
> 
> As I understand it the original design for glibc regex was that Emacs 
> was the default, so a flags value of zero meant Emacs. This is why 
> RE_SYNTAX_EMACS is 0.
> 
> Evidently that design goal no longer holds, so it makes sense to adjust 
> Emacs's use of glibc flags to match the behavior of Emacs's only 
> regular-expression implementation in emacs/src/regex-emacs.c as best we can.
> 
> However, surely this adjustment should be made in Gnulib, not in 
> etags.c. That is, gnulib/lib/regex.h (aka emacs/lib/regex.h) should 
> #define RE_SYNTAX_EMACS to equal RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS, not 
> zero. And eventually this change should be migrated back to glibc.
> 
> I'll cc this to rms in case he has further comments about this.
>

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Made a patch to gnulib 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2025-04/msg00064.html as 
Paul suggested

On 3/29/25 13:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Ping!  Can we make some progress in resolving this?
>
> Richard, do you have any comments?
>
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:58:58 -0700
>> Cc: 76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN>,
>>   Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
>> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>
>>
>> On 2025-03-11 10:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:28:45 +0200
>>>> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
>>>>
>>>>      Before commit d904cc83 regex syntax flags used in etags were
>>>>
>>>>      RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS | RE_SHY_GROUPS | RE_FRUGAL
>>>>
>>>>      that got changed to 0. Including a patch that restores
>>>>      RE_CHAR_CLASSES and RE_INTERVALS and adds check for these features
>>>>      to the test. As far I can understand from the bug 74861, the
>>>>      absence of shy groups and non-greedy matching won't be fixed
>>>>      until Gnulib supports them
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Paul, any comments?
>> As I understand it the original design for glibc regex was that Emacs
>> was the default, so a flags value of zero meant Emacs. This is why
>> RE_SYNTAX_EMACS is 0.
>>
>> Evidently that design goal no longer holds, so it makes sense to adjust
>> Emacs's use of glibc flags to match the behavior of Emacs's only
>> regular-expression implementation in emacs/src/regex-emacs.c as best we can.
>>
>> However, surely this adjustment should be made in Gnulib, not in
>> etags.c. That is, gnulib/lib/regex.h (aka emacs/lib/regex.h) should
>> #define RE_SYNTAX_EMACS to equal RE_CHAR_CLASSES | RE_INTERVALS, not
>> zero. And eventually this change should be migrated back to glibc.
>>
>> I'll cc this to rms in case he has further comments about this.
>>

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> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:55:01 +0300
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> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> 
> Made a patch to gnulib 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2025-04/msg00064.html as 
> Paul suggested

Thanks.  I guess we can now close this bug, as the issue will be
resolved in Gnulib?

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Seems strange to me to close before we make sure the software does, in
fact, behave as expected. But if that's how it is usually done in this
project, then of course!

On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:55=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote=
:

> > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:55:01 +0300
> > Cc: 76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> >
> > Made a patch to gnulib
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2025-04/msg00064.html as
> > Paul suggested
>
> Thanks.  I guess we can now close this bug, as the issue will be
> resolved in Gnulib?
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Seems strange to me to close before we make sure the softw=
are does, in fact, behave as expected. But if that&#39;s how it is usually =
done in this project, then of course!<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr =
13, 2025 at 12:55=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN=
rg">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex">&gt; Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:55:01 +0300<br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">76945@d=
ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br>
&gt; From: Vladimir Gorsunov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gorsunov@HIDDEN" targ=
et=3D"_blank">gorsunov@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Made a patch to gnulib <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2025-04/msg00=
064.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.gnu.org/archiv=
e/html/bug-gnulib/2025-04/msg00064.html</a> as <br>
&gt; Paul suggested<br>
<br>
Thanks.=C2=A0 I guess we can now close this bug, as the issue will be<br>
resolved in Gnulib?<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d=
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> From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:08:06 +0300
> Cc: eggert@HIDDEN, rms@HIDDEN, 76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
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> Seems strange to me to close before we make sure the software does, in fact, behave as expected. But if
> that's how it is usually done in this project, then of course!

We could wait until Gnulib folks resolve this on their end, but
someone will need to tell us when that happens, because I don't
normally read the Gnulib list.

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I'll tell you

On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> > From: Vladimir Gorsunov <gorsunov@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:08:06 +0300
> > Cc: eggert@HIDDEN, rms@HIDDEN, 76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > Seems strange to me to close before we make sure the software does, in
> fact, behave as expected. But if
> > that's how it is usually done in this project, then of course!
>
> We could wait until Gnulib folks resolve this on their end, but
> someone will need to tell us when that happens, because I don't
> normally read the Gnulib list.
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ll tell you<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 13,=
 2025 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">=
eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex">&gt; From: Vladimir Gorsunov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gorsunov@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">gorsunov@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:08:06 +0300<br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:eggert@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eggert@cs.=
ucla.edu</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:rms@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">rms@HIDDEN<=
/a>, <a href=3D"mailto:76945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">76945@debbu=
gs.gnu.org</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Seems strange to me to close before we make sure the software does, in=
 fact, behave as expected. But if<br>
&gt; that&#39;s how it is usually done in this project, then of course!<br>
<br>
We could wait until Gnulib folks resolve this on their end, but<br>
someone will need to tell us when that happens, because I don&#39;t<br>
normally read the Gnulib list.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
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