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Subject: bug#77136: 31.0.50; package.el: Built-in packages marked as upgradable when versions =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=89=A4?= bundled version
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Dear Emacs maintainers,

I've encountered an issue in `package.el` where built-in packages are
marked as upgradable even when the repository version is <= the built-in
version.  This occurs because the version comparison logic prioritizes
repository versions over built-in ones.

### Steps to reproduce:
1. Set package-archive-priorities to '(("gnu" . 5) ("nongnu" . 4)).
2. Set package-install-upgrade-built-in to t.
3. Run `M-x list-packages` and observe the package status.

### Current behavior:
Built-in packages are marked as upgradable even when the repository
version is <= the built-in version.

### Expected behavior:
Built-in packages should only be marked as upgradable if the repository
version is newer.

In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-03-16 built on fedora
Repository revision: eab14d68b2e72b9a6b8b0cc67c9667c2bfbed4f5
Repository branch: master
System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition)

Configured using:
 'configure --with-imagemagick --with-pgtk --with-tree-sitter
 --with-mailutils --with-sound=yes --with-pdumper=yes
 --with-dumping=pdumper --with-file-notification=yes --with-gnutls'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ
IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3
THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run
bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap
yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache
epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search
time-date subr-x mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip
cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen
pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list
replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar
menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse
jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer
nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian
utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk multi-tty move-toolbar
make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs)

Memory information:
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM <davidimagid@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Dear Emacs maintainers,
>
> I've encountered an issue in `package.el` where built-in packages are
> marked as upgradable even when the repository version is <=3D the built-i=
n
> version.  This occurs because the version comparison logic prioritizes
> repository versions over built-in ones.
>
> ### Steps to reproduce:
> 1. Set package-archive-priorities to '(("gnu" . 5) ("nongnu" . 4)).
> 2. Set package-install-upgrade-built-in to t.
> 3. Run `M-x list-packages` and observe the package status.
>
> ### Current behavior:
> Built-in packages are marked as upgradable even when the repository
> version is <=3D the built-in version.
>
> ### Expected behavior:
> Built-in packages should only be marked as upgradable if the repository
> version is newer.
>
> In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
>  3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-03-16 built on fedora
> Repository revision: eab14d68b2e72b9a6b8b0cc67c9667c2bfbed4f5
> Repository branch: master
> System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition)
>
> Configured using:
>  'configure --with-imagemagick --with-pgtk --with-tree-sitter
>  --with-mailutils --with-sound=3Dyes --with-pdumper=3Dyes
>  --with-dumping=3Dpdumper --with-file-notification=3Dyes --with-gnutls'
>
> Configured features:
> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ
> IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES
> NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3
> THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB
>
> Important settings:
>   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
>   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
>   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>
> Major mode: Lisp Interaction
>
> Minor modes in effect:
>   tooltip-mode: t
>   global-eldoc-mode: t
>   eldoc-mode: t
>   show-paren-mode: t
>   electric-indent-mode: t
>   mouse-wheel-mode: t
>   tool-bar-mode: t
>   menu-bar-mode: t
>   file-name-shadow-mode: t
>   global-font-lock-mode: t
>   font-lock-mode: t
>   blink-cursor-mode: t
>   minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
>   line-number-mode: t
>   indent-tabs-mode: t
>   transient-mark-mode: t
>   auto-composition-mode: t
>   auto-encryption-mode: t
>   auto-compression-mode: t
>
> Load-path shadows:
> None found.
>
> Features:
> (shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run
> bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap
> yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache
> epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search
> time-date subr-x mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
> mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047
> rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip
> cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
> elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen
> pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list
> replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar
> menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse
> jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer
> nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian
> utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
> japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
> ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop
> case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
> cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
> files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
> code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
> threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
> font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk multi-tty move-toolbar
> make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs)
>
> Memory information:
> ((conses 16 66717 12779) (symbols 48 6838 0) (strings 32 17183 2502)
>  (string-bytes 1 531430) (vectors 16 10577)
>  (vector-slots 8 148392 3429) (floats 8 22 13) (intervals 56 249 0)
>  (buffers 992 11))
>

David,

See the discussion here https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D765=
67

-Stephane

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t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">=
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:davidimagid@=
gmail.com">davidimagid@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">Dear Emacs maintainers,<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve encountered an issue in `package.el` where built-in packages are<b=
r>
marked as upgradable even when the repository version is &lt;=3D the built-=
in<br>
version.=C2=A0 This occurs because the version comparison logic prioritizes=
<br>
repository versions over built-in ones.<br>
<br>
### Steps to reproduce:<br>
1. Set package-archive-priorities to &#39;((&quot;gnu&quot; . 5) (&quot;non=
gnu&quot; . 4)).<br>
2. Set package-install-upgrade-built-in to t.<br>
3. Run `M-x list-packages` and observe the package status.<br>
<br>
### Current behavior:<br>
Built-in packages are marked as upgradable even when the repository<br>
version is &lt;=3D the built-in version.<br>
<br>
### Expected behavior:<br>
Built-in packages should only be marked as upgradable if the repository<br>
version is newer.<br>
<br>
In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version<br>
=C2=A03.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-03-16 built on fedora<br>
Repository revision: eab14d68b2e72b9a6b8b0cc67c9667c2bfbed4f5<br>
Repository branch: master<br>
System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition)<br>
<br>
Configured using:<br>
=C2=A0&#39;configure --with-imagemagick --with-pgtk --with-tree-sitter<br>
=C2=A0--with-mailutils --with-sound=3Dyes --with-pdumper=3Dyes<br>
=C2=A0--with-dumping=3Dpdumper --with-file-notification=3Dyes --with-gnutls=
&#39;<br>
<br>
Configured features:<br>
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ<br>
IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES<br>
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3<br>
THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB<br>
<br>
Important settings:<br>
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8<br>
=C2=A0 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus<br>
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix<br>
<br>
Major mode: Lisp Interaction<br>
<br>
Minor modes in effect:<br>
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 eldoc-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 show-paren-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 menu-bar-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 minibuffer-regexp-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 indent-tabs-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t<br>
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t<br>
<br>
Load-path shadows:<br>
None found.<br>
<br>
Features:<br>
(shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run<br>
bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap<br>
yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache<br>
epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search<br>
time-date subr-x mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231<br>
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047<br>
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip<br>
cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type<br>
elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen<br>
pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list<br>
replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar<br>
menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse<br>
jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer<br>
nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian<br>
utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean<br>
japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european<br>
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop<br=
>
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure<br>
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp<br>
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env<br>
code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote<br>
threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting<br>
font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk multi-tty move-toolbar<br>
make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs)<br>
<br>
Memory information:<br>
((conses 16 66717 12779) (symbols 48 6838 0) (strings 32 17183 2502)<br>
=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 531430) (vectors 16 10577)<br>
=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 148392 3429) (floats 8 22 13) (intervals 56 249 0)<br=
>
=C2=A0(buffers 992 11))<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">David,</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:monospace">See the discussion here <a href=3D"https=
://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D76567">https://debbugs.gnu.org/c=
gi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D76567</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace">-Stephane</div></div></div>

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merge 77136 76567
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> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 11:50:10 -0400
> Cc: 77136 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>, 
> 	Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 
> 	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
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> David,
> 
> See the discussion here https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=76567

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merge 77136 76567
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> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 11:50:10 -0400
> Cc: 77136 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>, 
> 	Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 
> 	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
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> David,
> 
> See the discussion here https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=76567

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Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes:

> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM <davidimagid@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>> Dear Emacs maintainers,
>>
>> I've encountered an issue in `package.el` where built-in packages are
>> marked as upgradable even when the repository version is <=3D the built-=
in
>> version.  This occurs because the version comparison logic prioritizes
>> repository versions over built-in ones.
>>
>> ### Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. Set package-archive-priorities to '(("gnu" . 5) ("nongnu" . 4)).
>> 2. Set package-install-upgrade-built-in to t.
>> 3. Run `M-x list-packages` and observe the package status.
>>
>> ### Current behavior:
>> Built-in packages are marked as upgradable even when the repository
>> version is <=3D the built-in version.
>>
>> ### Expected behavior:
>> Built-in packages should only be marked as upgradable if the repository
>> version is newer.
>>
>> In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
>>  3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-03-16 built on fedora
>> Repository revision: eab14d68b2e72b9a6b8b0cc67c9667c2bfbed4f5
>> Repository branch: master
>> System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition)
>>
>> Configured using:
>>  'configure --with-imagemagick --with-pgtk --with-tree-sitter
>>  --with-mailutils --with-sound=3Dyes --with-pdumper=3Dyes
>>  --with-dumping=3Dpdumper --with-file-notification=3Dyes --with-gnutls'
>>
>> Configured features:
>> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ
>> IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES
>> NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3
>> THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB
>>
>> Important settings:
>>   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
>>   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
>>   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>>
>> Major mode: Lisp Interaction
>>
>> Minor modes in effect:
>>   tooltip-mode: t
>>   global-eldoc-mode: t
>>   eldoc-mode: t
>>   show-paren-mode: t
>>   electric-indent-mode: t
>>   mouse-wheel-mode: t
>>   tool-bar-mode: t
>>   menu-bar-mode: t
>>   file-name-shadow-mode: t
>>   global-font-lock-mode: t
>>   font-lock-mode: t
>>   blink-cursor-mode: t
>>   minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
>>   line-number-mode: t
>>   indent-tabs-mode: t
>>   transient-mark-mode: t
>>   auto-composition-mode: t
>>   auto-encryption-mode: t
>>   auto-compression-mode: t
>>
>> Load-path shadows:
>> None found.
>>
>> Features:
>> (shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run
>> bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap
>> yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache
>> epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search
>> time-date subr-x mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
>> mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047
>> rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip
>> cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
>> elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen
>> pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list
>> replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar
>> menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse
>> jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer
>> nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian
>> utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
>> japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
>> ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop
>> case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
>> cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
>> files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
>> code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
>> threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
>> font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk multi-tty move-toolbar
>> make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs)
>>
>> Memory information:
>> ((conses 16 66717 12779) (symbols 48 6838 0) (strings 32 17183 2502)
>>  (string-bytes 1 531430) (vectors 16 10577)
>>  (vector-slots 8 148392 3429) (floats 8 22 13) (intervals 56 249 0)
>>  (buffers 992 11))
>>
>
> David,
>
> See the discussion here https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7=
6567
>
> -Stephane

Adding to the previous discussion, I feel that adding
`package-install-upgrade-built-in' was a mistake and the confusion is
visible in reports like these.

My ongoing suggestion to replace `package-install-upgrade-built-in' is
to use `package-pinned-packages' and upgrade built-in packages if they
are pinned to "gnu" in the user option.  But I know that this was and is
a controversial topic, so we shouldn't deprecate anything without
putting in the necessary thought.

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