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Hi folks,

The help buffer created by M-x describe-input-method has its modified
flag set.

Recipe:

1. emacs -Q
2. M-x describe-input-method RET japanese RET
3. The mode line shows the buffer is modified

I am not sure if this is a bug, but it stood out to me as inconsistent
with similar help buffers (or maybe with special-mode buffers more
generally?) I have seen, which IME are read-only and have the modified
flag unset.

If this is expected behavior, sorry for the noise.

Cheers.

In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin21.6.0, NS
appkit-2113.65 Version 12.7.6 (Build 21H1320)) of 2025-02-24 built on
armbob.lan
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2575
System Description:  macOS 15.4

Configured using:
'configure --with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application
Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/Application
Support/Emacs/site-lisp' --with-modules 'CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=10000
-DDARWIN_UNLIMITED_SELECT' --with-x-toolkit=no'

Configured features:
ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG
RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Help

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  isearch-fold-quotes-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
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indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese
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hashtable-print-readable backquote threads kqueue cocoa ns multi-tty
make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 56777 10594) (symbols 48 5739 0) (strings 32 15585 2085)
(string-bytes 1 390457) (vectors 16 11202)
(vector-slots 8 160271 5895) (floats 8 24 4) (intervals 56 1599 435)
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Hi folks,

The help buffer created by M-x describe-input-method has its modified
flag set.

Recipe:

1. emacs -Q
2. M-x describe-input-method RET japanese RET
3. The mode line shows the buffer is modified

I am not sure if this is a bug, but it stood out to me as inconsistent
with similar help buffers (or maybe with special-mode buffers more
generally?) I have seen, which IME are read-only and have the modified
flag unset.

If this is expected behavior, sorry for the noise.

Cheers.

In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin21.6.0, NS
appkit-2113.65 Version 12.7.6 (Build 21H1320)) of 2025-02-24 built on
armbob.lan
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2575
System Description:  macOS 15.4

Configured using:
'configure --with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application
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> From: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:40:48 -0400
> 
> The help buffer created by M-x describe-input-method has its modified
> flag set.
> 
> Recipe:
> 
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. M-x describe-input-method RET japanese RET
> 3. The mode line shows the buffer is modified
> 
> I am not sure if this is a bug, but it stood out to me as inconsistent
> with similar help buffers (or maybe with special-mode buffers more
> generally?) I have seen, which IME are read-only and have the modified
> flag unset.

Thanks, should be fixed now.


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> From: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:40:48 -0400
> 
> The help buffer created by M-x describe-input-method has its modified
> flag set.
> 
> Recipe:
> 
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. M-x describe-input-method RET japanese RET
> 3. The mode line shows the buffer is modified
> 
> I am not sure if this is a bug, but it stood out to me as inconsistent
> with similar help buffers (or maybe with special-mode buffers more
> generally?) I have seen, which IME are read-only and have the modified
> flag unset.

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Hi folks,

The help buffer created by M-x describe-input-method has its modified
flag set.

Recipe:

1. emacs -Q
2. M-x describe-input-method RET japanese RET
3. The mode line shows the buffer is modified

I am not sure if this is a bug, but it stood out to me as inconsistent
with similar help buffers (or maybe with special-mode buffers more
generally?) I have seen, which IME are read-only and have the modified
flag unset.

If this is expected behavior, sorry for the noise.

Cheers.

In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin21.6.0, NS
appkit-2113.65 Version 12.7.6 (Build 21H1320)) of 2025-02-24 built on
armbob.lan
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2575
System Description:  macOS 15.4

Configured using:
'configure --with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application
Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/Application
Support/Emacs/site-lisp' --with-modules 'CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=10000
-DDARWIN_UNLIMITED_SELECT' --with-x-toolkit=no'

Configured features:
ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG
RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Help

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  isearch-fold-quotes-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date subr-x mm-decode
mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader
sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils
cl-extra help-fns radix-tree japan-util kkc ja-dic-utl quail help-mode
cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric
uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel
term/ns-win ns-win ucs-normalize mule-util term/common-win tool-bar dnd
fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment
text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow
isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax
font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic
indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese
tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek
romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese
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theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties
overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads kqueue cocoa ns multi-tty
make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 56777 10594) (symbols 48 5739 0) (strings 32 15585 2085)
(string-bytes 1 390457) (vectors 16 11202)
(vector-slots 8 160271 5895) (floats 8 24 4) (intervals 56 1599 435)
(buffers 992 13))



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> On Mar 20, 2025, at 4:36=E2=80=AFPM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
>>=20
>> From: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:40:48 -0400
>>=20
>> The help buffer created by M-x describe-input-method has its modified
>> flag set.
>>=20
>> Recipe:
>>=20
>> 1. emacs -Q
>> 2. M-x describe-input-method RET japanese RET
>> 3. The mode line shows the buffer is modified
>>=20
>> I am not sure if this is a bug, but it stood out to me as inconsistent
>> with similar help buffers (or maybe with special-mode buffers more
>> generally?) I have seen, which IME are read-only and have the modified
>> flag unset.
>=20
> Thanks, should be fixed now.

Thanks!=





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