Received: (at 77157-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2025 12:08:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 29 08:08:17 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tyUz3-0007fa-5P for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:08:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tyUyR-0007dv-GS for 77157-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:07:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tyUyM-0000g4-72; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:07:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=/KvHfBzfVQf4KD48efIaed1bUa/hpC46SpkC1NuPn34=; b=Hw4rew5a/6Yurh1vVinx vI7pV9OjiF0ieAX1LkxPPAm2XCXqWNhy4WXtsQX1ZatWmxD/QLGhOgo5/S3G+TLx08NGARIfOnGck 3eQPtY7PyDurc/2gc9ZnHhxsN5BxFRIofjiCVONViRRQAWoUEpZJpyPY1Cpy9RS8gktMe5dDkcC52 AwUWgKcD5/sFPGy3Wv6K0nty5leTmCKoqhDHav/VkqcwsvIQmNLFhcW3Azq2gjgKp4HAjZAivr/5+ Fw8lD6ago8UrgmMEr+x8h1qXURJ6hB3YYG3HeVDC6mhXGEnMVmBqjkD7FMmTmXICyYqbuxskr12b5 mS9spWW7A5y6Mg==; Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 15:07:31 +0300 Message-Id: <86ikns6nwc.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1HbrQo-OQR6BMHXnHtzsLcMsNqrxB-x-qAy5EwL-sMxTeAg@HIDDEN> (message from Ship Mints on Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:09:18 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#77157: [PATCH] 'uniquify' user option setters and automatic buffer refresh References: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbqrhL87uDsSx-hyd=H5zxT4VAu67jcZmxU7Dc5hsZJMDQ@HIDDEN> <861puplfst.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq7gz_xhrEFK3gbcZ-928vZ-qH2MNMNxLphkOw0eFZOpA@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbrABdQ1JvGj29izNWrU7mjrzd9MzacZVioXqjd_SV9xiQ@HIDDEN> <86h63ljowh.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq_RN=AEiMevT4JCpANWr8-B1YvFo==zOw=ypZjNr_otQ@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbrQo-OQR6BMHXnHtzsLcMsNqrxB-x-qAy5EwL-sMxTeAg@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77157-done Cc: 77157-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:09:18 -0400 > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:40 AM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:17 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400 > > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > We usually use the following style for such variables: > > > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; > > use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option' > > or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly. > > > > I'll adapt this language. Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode. It's a rename buffer hook in > buffer.c > > and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style. > > > > Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove the hook (it probably > should set > > 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its business). It's not even clear if unload ever > gets called > > by anyone. Perhaps a candidate to obsolete. > > > > The following seems more precise. Okay with you? > > > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use either > > \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; otherwise > > reload your buffers, or restart Emacs. > > Yes, but I'd omit the "restart Emacs" alternative, as too far-fetched > (we are talking about the ways to make the change take effect in the > same session). > > Thanks. > > Revised patch attached. It's my pleasure. > > With bug# added to commit log... Thanks, installed on the master branch, and closing the bug.
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boundary="00000000000031f0430630ed3ef8" --00000000000031f0430630ed3ef8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:40=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> wr= ote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:17=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrot= e: > >> > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> >> > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400 >> > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> > >> > We usually use the following style for such variables: >> > >> > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; >> > use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option= ' >> > or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly. >> > >> > I'll adapt this language. Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode. It'= s >> a rename buffer hook in buffer.c >> > and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style. >> > >> > Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remov= e >> the hook (it probably should set >> > 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its business). It's >> not even clear if unload ever gets called >> > by anyone. Perhaps a candidate to obsolete. >> > >> > The following seems more precise. Okay with you? >> > >> > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use eithe= r >> > \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; otherwise >> > reload your buffers, or restart Emacs. >> >> Yes, but I'd omit the "restart Emacs" alternative, as too far-fetched >> (we are talking about the ways to make the change take effect in the >> same session). >> >> Thanks. >> > > Revised patch attached. It's my pleasure. > With bug# added to commit log... --00000000000031f0430630ed3ef8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:40=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:sh= ipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><di= v class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu= ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20= 4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-f= amily:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On = Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:17=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:el= iz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg= in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e= x">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target= =3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77157@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 We usually use the following style for such variables:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Setting this variable directly will not usually take effe= ct;<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniqui= fy--set-option'<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable= directly.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 I'll adapt this language.=C2=A0 Uniquify isn't implement= ed as a mode.=C2=A0 It's a rename buffer hook in buffer.c<br> >=C2=A0 and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a de= fined style.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't= attempt to remove the hook (it probably should set<br> >=C2=A0 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its busin= ess).=C2=A0 It's not even clear if unload ever gets called<br> >=C2=A0 by anyone.=C2=A0 Perhaps a candidate to obsolete.<br> > <br> > The following seems more precise.=C2=A0 Okay with you?<br> > <br> > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use eithe= r<br> > \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; oth= erwise<br> > reload your buffers, or restart Emacs.<br> <br> Yes, but I'd omit the "restart Emacs" alternative, as too far= -fetched<br> (we are talking about the ways to make the change take effect in the<br> same session).<br> <br> Thanks.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace"= >Revised patch attached.=C2=A0 It's my pleasure.</div></div></div></blo= ckquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mo= nospace">With bug# added to commit log...</div></div></div> --00000000000031f0430630ed3ef8-- 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Sat, 22 Mar 2025 04:40:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbqrhL87uDsSx-hyd=H5zxT4VAu67jcZmxU7Dc5hsZJMDQ@HIDDEN> <861puplfst.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq7gz_xhrEFK3gbcZ-928vZ-qH2MNMNxLphkOw0eFZOpA@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbrABdQ1JvGj29izNWrU7mjrzd9MzacZVioXqjd_SV9xiQ@HIDDEN> <86h63ljowh.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86h63ljowh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:40:43 -0400 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1Jqp89-CMcyh9Pi68J-gyiqEQwWUJiia7P7Xne8BsRa6ApPLJp1u85mJcYA Message-ID: <CAN+1Hbq_RN=AEiMevT4JCpANWr8-B1YvFo==zOw=ypZjNr_otQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77157: [PATCH] 'uniquify' user option setters and automatic buffer refresh To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000000125060630ecd81c" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77157 Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000000125060630ecd81c Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000125050630ecd81a" --0000000000000125050630ecd81a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:17=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400 > > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > We usually use the following style for such variables: > > > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; > > use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option' > > or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly. > > > > I'll adapt this language. Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode. It's > a rename buffer hook in buffer.c > > and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style. > > > > Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove > the hook (it probably should set > > 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its business). It's no= t > even clear if unload ever gets called > > by anyone. Perhaps a candidate to obsolete. > > > > The following seems more precise. Okay with you? > > > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use either > > \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; otherwise > > reload your buffers, or restart Emacs. > > Yes, but I'd omit the "restart Emacs" alternative, as too far-fetched > (we are talking about the ways to make the change take effect in the > same session). > > Thanks. > Revised patch attached. It's my pleasure. --0000000000000125050630ecd81a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:17=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77157@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 We usually use the following style for such variables:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Setting this variable directly will not usually take effe= ct;<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniqui= fy--set-option'<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable= directly.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 I'll adapt this language.=C2=A0 Uniquify isn't implement= ed as a mode.=C2=A0 It's a rename buffer hook in buffer.c<br> >=C2=A0 and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a de= fined style.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't= attempt to remove the hook (it probably should set<br> >=C2=A0 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its busin= ess).=C2=A0 It's not even clear if unload ever gets called<br> >=C2=A0 by anyone.=C2=A0 Perhaps a candidate to obsolete.<br> > <br> > The following seems more precise.=C2=A0 Okay with you?<br> > <br> > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use eithe= r<br> > \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; oth= erwise<br> > reload your buffers, or restart Emacs.<br> <br> Yes, but I'd omit the "restart Emacs" alternative, as too far= -fetched<br> (we are talking about the ways to make the change take effect in the<br> same session).<br> <br> Thanks.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:monospace">Revised patch attached.=C2=A0 It's my pleasu= re.</div></div></div> --0000000000000125050630ecd81a-- --0000000000000125060630ecd81c Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="0001-uniquify-user-option-setters-and-automatic-buffer-re.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-uniquify-user-option-setters-and-automatic-buffer-re.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <f_m8k50b500> X-Attachment-Id: f_m8k50b500 RnJvbSBhMzVjNGUxY2Q3OTI5YmIzNmYzNmVlN2QwMjhjZTA5ZDg1M2FhNjMxIE1vbiBTZXAgMTcg MDA6MDA6MDAgMjAwMQpGcm9tOiBzaGlwbWludHMgPHNoaXBtaW50c0BnbWFpbC5jb20+CkRhdGU6 IEZyaSwgMjEgTWFyIDIwMjUgMTM6NTk6MDMgLTA0MDAKU3ViamVjdDogW1BBVENIXSAndW5pcXVp 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Full text available.Received: (at 77157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2025 11:17:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 22 07:17:13 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tvwqn-0006wy-8r for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:17:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tvwql-0006wj-1R for 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:17:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tvwqf-0002Tu-NH; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:17:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=fd9OpzIliz5PTjfQPAaBe2uZM1R33SdQk7pvv2tLmq0=; b=H1fJO7hewjKU YuQSQqB5OsEngAUgg+6M9ERQiD/jHUVA6kN8pjaEJSQVAtWjOEPTD/vWLFdyq8zZCdCFg0wh659OT 9kx9tw3b+Lga10HT6/3/Yt7EmJRX8HlUgMsrQGp8BPd15hg7pLgTO0iGZC6yMqai0IYJgiBarb9aR 75kM8L9CiEvumRHTaCwCZSu68DAC5UsN6+rmDDdKZ6XnKb8pRy1mp1zAs0BHNEJpVMBiZrDAaHdI0 ApsMn+c1m2MrwNVnjoy/Qfegalb2hQxX3y+7AidsahPlI43wLmzuhLdgV93XlTt4bP8mDmDVJ/rzN jxOYgX4lsi9jtqKVUzP8oQ==; Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:17:02 +0200 Message-Id: <86h63ljowh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1HbrABdQ1JvGj29izNWrU7mjrzd9MzacZVioXqjd_SV9xiQ@HIDDEN> (message from Ship Mints on Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#77157: [PATCH] 'uniquify' user option setters and automatic buffer refresh References: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbqrhL87uDsSx-hyd=H5zxT4VAu67jcZmxU7Dc5hsZJMDQ@HIDDEN> <861puplfst.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq7gz_xhrEFK3gbcZ-928vZ-qH2MNMNxLphkOw0eFZOpA@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbrABdQ1JvGj29izNWrU7mjrzd9MzacZVioXqjd_SV9xiQ@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77157 Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:04:08 -0400 > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > We usually use the following style for such variables: > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; > use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option' > or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly. > > I'll adapt this language. Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode. It's a rename buffer hook in buffer.c > and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style. > > Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove the hook (it probably should set > 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its business). It's not even clear if unload ever gets called > by anyone. Perhaps a candidate to obsolete. > > The following seems more precise. Okay with you? > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use either > \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; otherwise > reload your buffers, or restart Emacs. Yes, but I'd omit the "restart Emacs" alternative, as too far-fetched (we are talking about the ways to make the change take effect in the same session). Thanks.
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 6:44=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> wr= ote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 2:50=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrot= e: > >> > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> >> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:02:34 -0400 >> > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> > >> > Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the middle o= f >> > an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, but >> > not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-option is >> > then invoked). >> > >> > Eli, how is this wording which I'll put in each docstring? >> > >> > "To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buffer names, >> > use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both of which >> > call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you)." >> >> We usually use the following style for such variables: >> >> Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; >> use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option' >> or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly. >> > > I'll adapt this language. Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode. It's a > rename buffer hook in buffer.c and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style= ' > to have a defined style. > > Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove th= e > hook (it probably should set 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part = of > its business). It's not even clear if unload ever gets called by anyone. > Perhaps a candidate to obsolete. > The following seems more precise. Okay with you? Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; otherwise reload your buffers, or restart Emacs. --0000000000003cc1ec0630ec5519 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 6:44=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:sh= ipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><di= v class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu= ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20= 4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-f= amily:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On = Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 2:50=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:el= iz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg= in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e= x">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" target= =3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:02:34 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77157@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the mid= dle of<br> >=C2=A0 an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, = but<br> >=C2=A0 not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-optio= n is<br> >=C2=A0 then invoked).<br> > <br> > Eli, how is this wording which I'll put in each docstring?<br> > <br> > "To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buff= er names,<br> > use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both = of which<br> > call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you)."= <br> <br> We usually use the following style for such variables:<br> <br> =C2=A0 Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect;<br> =C2=A0 use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-opt= ion'<br> =C2=A0 or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly.<= br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace">I'l= l adapt this=C2=A0language.=C2=A0 Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode.= =C2=A0 It's a rename buffer hook in buffer.c and depends on 'uniqui= fy-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style.</div><div style=3D"font-= family:monospace"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace">Even the f= unction 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove th= e hook (it probably should set 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil = as part of its business).=C2=A0 It's not even clear if unload ever gets= called by anyone.=C2=A0 Perhaps a candidate to obsolete.</div></div></div>= </blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami= ly:monospace">The=C2=A0following seems more precise.=C2=A0 Okay with you?</= div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div>= <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Setting this v= ariable directly will not usually take effect; use either<br>\\[customize] = or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option'; otherwise<br>reload yo= ur buffers, or restart Emacs.<br></div></div></div> --0000000000003cc1ec0630ec5519--
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> > > > "To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buffer names, > > use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both of which > > call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you)." > > We usually use the following style for such variables: > > Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; > use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option' > or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly. > I'll adapt this language. Uniquify isn't implemented as a mode. It's a rename buffer hook in buffer.c and depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style. Even the function 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove the hook (it probably should set 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as part of its business). It's not even clear if unload ever gets called by anyone. Perhaps a candidate to obsolete. --000000000000525f1a0630ec10a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 2:50=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:02:34 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77157@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the mid= dle of<br> >=C2=A0 an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, = but<br> >=C2=A0 not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-optio= n is<br> >=C2=A0 then invoked).<br> > <br> > Eli, how is this wording which I'll put in each docstring?<br> > <br> > "To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buff= er names,<br> > use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both = of which<br> > call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you)."= <br> <br> We usually use the following style for such variables:<br> <br> =C2=A0 Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect;<br> =C2=A0 use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-opt= ion'<br> =C2=A0 or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly.<= br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f= amily:monospace">I'll adapt this=C2=A0language.=C2=A0 Uniquify isn'= t implemented as a mode.=C2=A0 It's a rename buffer hook in buffer.c an= d depends on 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to have a defined style.<= /div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div= ><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Even the func= tion 'uniquify-unload-function' doesn't attempt to remove the h= ook (it probably should set 'uniquify-buffer-name-style' to nil as = part of its business).=C2=A0 It's not even clear if unload ever gets ca= lled by anyone.=C2=A0 Perhaps a candidate to obsolete.</div></div></div> --000000000000525f1a0630ec10a7--
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Full text available.Received: (at 77157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2025 06:50:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 22 02:50:55 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40535 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tvsh4-0000IW-UN for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 02:50:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33652) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tvsh2-0000IE-LO for 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 02:50:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tvsgx-0007fJ-7H; Sat, 22 Mar 2025 02:50:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=YEYHfUK1UFZRZ4Webt8b7V22FR19WdHtOD2Z5cXl8pw=; b=j1cw4i1QwTTc 7xn8lDn6ozQJr4SmesMbKWq5OhSsk0SUojE4jDJfRBlA3VKWzkBg0RBq4AUAQ0FffYCM4gdqESmwR 5/4J9RZ4j75RE71Z1HXhP90Tj/P73JmeHLsPqHhKhzS2nXiCGoNB0UkO1CJ/fwSewJHWYjyVdVV9o K3S0tJeEYk/Y1GZ98+zv++orY/eHvjAvYcL7Y+et3I26OJ5Li4jyNsiOqvyCBrb4ZwSzDhAaFOHLb 2RaQunxbIhIK0zlK230eVHlI0bHlMsOPQzG9wc+JgOD7tc2/5a0laoscMgPfNIvZuMDQWyGGvYphx /umcMVli7st7ZZkyNSclwQ==; Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:50:42 +0200 Message-Id: <861puplfst.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1HbqrhL87uDsSx-hyd=H5zxT4VAu67jcZmxU7Dc5hsZJMDQ@HIDDEN> (message from Ship Mints on Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:02:34 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#77157: [PATCH] 'uniquify' user option setters and automatic buffer refresh References: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbqrhL87uDsSx-hyd=H5zxT4VAu67jcZmxU7Dc5hsZJMDQ@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77157 Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:02:34 -0400 > Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the middle of > an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, but > not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-option is > then invoked). > > Eli, how is this wording which I'll put in each docstring? > > "To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buffer names, > use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both of which > call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you)." We usually use the following style for such variables: Setting this variable directly will not usually take effect; use either \\[customize] or `setopt', or call `uniquify--set-option' or restart `uniquify-mode' after setting the variable directly.
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Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:02:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:02:34 -0400 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1JoK61NN6AL01ozqnYFH9QSe_MQdt5TZvPRmFdfjH6dcHjtc54a7qMGDAPo Message-ID: <CAN+1HbqrhL87uDsSx-hyd=H5zxT4VAu67jcZmxU7Dc5hsZJMDQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77157: [PATCH] 'uniquify' user option setters and automatic buffer refresh To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ea15d60630dfbcb5" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77157 Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000ea15d60630dfbcb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 3:51=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:11:01 -0400 > > (defcustom uniquify-buffer-name-style 'post-forward-angle-brackets > > "How to construct unique buffer names for files with the same base > name. > > @@ -121,6 +135,8 @@ uniquify-buffer-name-style > > (const post-forward-angle-brackets) > > (function :tag "Other") > > (const :tag "numeric suffixes" nil)) > > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > > + :set #'uniquify--set-option > > Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the middle of > an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, but > not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-option is > then invoked). > > Eli, how is this wording which I'll put in each docstring? "To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buffer names, use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both of which call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you)." --000000000000ea15d60630dfbcb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 3:51=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:11:01 -0400<br>>=C2=A0 (defcustom uniquif= y-buffer-name-style 'post-forward-angle-brackets<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "How to construct unique buffer names for files with= the same base name.<br> > @@ -121,6 +135,8 @@ uniquify-buffer-name-style<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(const post-forw= ard-angle-brackets)<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (functio= n :tag "Other")<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(const :tag &quo= t;numeric suffixes" nil))<br> > +=C2=A0 :initialize #'custom-initialize-default<br> > +=C2=A0 :set #'uniquify--set-option<br> <br> Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the middle of<br> an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, but<br> not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-option is<br> then invoked).<br> <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"= font-family:monospace">Eli, how is this wording which I'll put in each = docstring?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace= "><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">&q= uot;To reflect a change to this option's value in your live buffer name= s,<br>use `customize' interactively, or use `setopt' in Elisp, both= of which<br>call `uniquify--set-option' (setq will not do that for you= )."</div></div></div></div> --000000000000ea15d60630dfbcb5--
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Full text available.Received: (at 77157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2025 19:51:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 21 15:51:14 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39645 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tviOg-0000Hv-Cq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2025 15:51:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tviOd-0000Hi-QN for 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2025 15:51:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tviOY-000459-9I; Fri, 21 Mar 2025 15:51:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=YeJEEPSIk1mZH1qkoqZw3aXYUv00QWQ+HShuBiTrOHQ=; b=BPjr+wZlCINs PGL58KzVFAyG9GhNNIZIxC5PQfNFGt06/t8LXcGw95YJeJ+zDxi/2IfuA6nJmPd1SJGRW2WBakI1E 9JjIiFzqkMhYYzw3fOdlWMuzb3AVIzmW7zpYZc5lCFOQHpFp0smp6B1pevlBythsNWJk8LCkutwZy VX4ipT9I70cBNCeK6M2R4Radx+VhIUTSux03dv+vrkBhBvGk1eUxYLXFk9kiIILxRZq/+tHK22Pq4 8KwfXqkGSSKvjfnt9djwknnf5OVnLQwJSSz1uAZCl+9NYI1o+HYWIPKRW+2ilURYBPeqceCd8Exwr BVl+qaPWzOjbRTjX4cSxrA==; Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 21:50:58 +0200 Message-Id: <864izmkvrx.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> (message from Ship Mints on Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:11:01 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#77157: [PATCH] 'uniquify' user option setters and automatic buffer refresh References: <CAN+1HboXKhaeEPMQGgfVL4herydwuUYm+PPmgsceooCxNJHJYA@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77157 Cc: 77157 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:11:01 -0400 > > --- a/etc/NEWS > +++ b/etc/NEWS > @@ -1566,6 +1566,14 @@ This user option replaces 'follow-mode-prefix', which had to be set > before loading Follow mode. This new option allows you to change the > prefix even after it was loaded, using 'customize-option' or 'setopt'. > > +--- > +*** Changing uniquify user options refreshes buffer names. > +Use customize interactively, or setopt in Elisp, to refresh buffer names > +when changing 'uniquify' user options. Previously, reloading or > +renaming your buffers (or an Emacs restart) was required. I don't think this change warrants a NEWS entry. It's a minor convenience improvement, and arguably a bugfix. > (defcustom uniquify-buffer-name-style 'post-forward-angle-brackets > "How to construct unique buffer names for files with the same base name. > @@ -121,6 +135,8 @@ uniquify-buffer-name-style > (const post-forward-angle-brackets) > (function :tag "Other") > (const :tag "numeric suffixes" nil)) > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > + :set #'uniquify--set-option Please tell in the doc string that changing the style in the middle of an Emacs session must be done via Customize or by using setopt, but not by setting the variable directly (unless uniquify--set-option is then invoked). > @@ -136,11 +152,15 @@ uniquify-ignore-buffers-re > For instance, set this to \"^draft-[0-9]+$\" to avoid having uniquify > rename draft buffers even if `uniquify-after-kill-buffer-flag' is > non-nil and the visited file name isn't the same as that of the buffer." > - :type '(choice (const :tag "Uniquify all buffers" nil) regexp)) > + :type '(choice (const :tag "Uniquify all buffers" nil) regexp) > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > + :set #'uniquify--set-option) > > (defcustom uniquify-min-dir-content 0 > "Minimum number of directory name components included in buffer name." > - :type 'integer) > + :type 'integer > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > + :set #'uniquify--set-option) > > (defcustom uniquify-separator nil > "String separator for buffer name components. > @@ -148,7 +168,9 @@ uniquify-separator > base file name from directory part in buffer names (default \"|\"). > When `uniquify-buffer-name-style' is `reverse', separates all > file name components (default \"\\\")." > - :type '(choice (const nil) string)) > + :type '(choice (const nil) string) > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > + :set #'uniquify--set-option) > > (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'uniquify-trailing-separator-p > 'uniquify-trailing-separator-flag "31.1") > @@ -167,7 +189,9 @@ uniquify-strip-common-suffix > E.g. if you open /a1/b/c/d and /a2/b/c/d, the buffer names will say > \"d|a1\" and \"d|a2\" instead of \"d|a1/b/c\" and \"d|a2/b/c\". > This can be handy when you have deep parallel hierarchies." > - :type 'boolean) > + :type 'boolean > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > + :set #'uniquify--set-option) > > (defvar uniquify-list-buffers-directory-modes '(dired-mode cvs-mode vc-dir-mode) > "List of modes for which uniquify should obey `list-buffers-directory'. > @@ -197,6 +221,8 @@ uniquify-dirname-transform > (function-item :tag "Include project name in directory name" > ,#'project-uniquify-dirname-transform) > function) > + :initialize #'custom-initialize-default > + :set #'uniquify--set-option > :version "30.1" > :group 'uniquify) Likewise for these user options. Thanks.
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boundary="000000000000f879d60630de2d58" --000000000000f879d60630de2d58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Okay, here's a fun one that's been on my list for a while that other people might find useful. When I have a lot of buffers open, I occasionally want to increase or decrease uniquify-min-dir-content to make it easier to discern, with higher precision, one buffer from another with the same name, and without reloading buffers... Changing uniquify user options refreshes buffer names. Use customize interactively, or setopt in Elisp, to refresh buffer names when changing 'uniquify' user options. Previously, reloading or renaming your buffers (or an Emacs restart) was required. e.g., (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 2) In my init file, I have the following which makes this convenient: (defun my/uniquify-dir-content-cycle () (interactive) (if uniquify-buffer-name-style (progn (pcase uniquify-min-dir-content (0 (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 1)) (1 (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 2)) (2 (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 0))) (setopt uniquify-strip-common-suffix (= 0 uniquify-min-dir-content)) (when (< emacs-major-version 31) ; Hopefully deprecated! (my/uniquify-refresh))) (message "No `uniquify-buffer-name-style' defined"))) -Stephane --000000000000f879d60630de2d58 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">Okay, here's a fun one that's been on my list for a while that o= ther people might=C2=A0find useful.=C2=A0 When I have a lot of buffers open= , I occasionally want to increase or decrease uniquify-min-dir-content to m= ake it easier to discern, with higher precision, one buffer from another wi= th the same name, and without reloading buffers...</div><div class=3D"gmail= _default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def= ault" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Changing uniquify user options refres= hes buffer names.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mo= nospace"><br>Use customize interactively, or setopt in Elisp, to refresh bu= ffer names when changing 'uniquify' user options.=C2=A0 Previously,= reloading or renaming your buffers (or an Emacs restart) was required.<br>= <br>e.g., (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 2)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_= default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa= ult" style=3D"font-family:monospace">In my init file, I have the following = which makes this convenient:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:monospace">=C2=A0 (defun my/uniquify-dir-content-cycle ()<br>=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 (interactive)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (if uniquify-buffer-name-style<br>=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (progn<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (pcas= e uniquify-min-dir-content<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (0 = (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 1))<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 (1 (setopt uniquify-min-dir-content 2))<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (2 (setopt 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