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When I run './src/emacs-30.1.50 -Q' from the build directory, I get the
expected behavior.  I install the built emacs using "make install" into
/usr/local with some version-specific directories configured (see the
options) so I can have multiple major versions of emacs installed.  When
I run '/usr/local/bin/emacs-30.1.50 -Q', the following is displayed in
the terminal window:
------
Loading loadup.el (source)...
Dump mode: nil
Using load-path (/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp
/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/emacs-lisp
/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/progmodes
/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/language
/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/international
/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/textmodes
/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/vc)
Loading emacs-lisp/debug-early...
Loading emacs-lisp/debug-early...done
Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run...
Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run...done
Loading emacs-lisp/backquote...
Loading emacs-lisp/backquote...done
Loading subr...
Loading subr...done
Loading keymap...
Loading keymap...done
Loading version...
Loading version...done
Loading widget...
Loading widget...done
Loading custom...
Loading custom...done
Loading emacs-lisp/map-ynp...
Loading emacs-lisp/map-ynp...done
Loading international/mule...
Loading international/mule...done
Loading international/mule-conf...
Loading international/mule-conf...done
Loading env...
Loading env...done
Loading format...
Loading format...done
Loading bindings...
Loading bindings...done
Loading window...
Loading window...done
Loading files...
Loading files...done
Loading emacs-lisp/macroexp...
Loading emacs-lisp/macroexp...done
Loading cus-face...
Loading cus-face...done
Loading faces...
Loading faces...done
Loading loaddefs...
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/theme-loaddefs.el (source)...
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/theme-loaddefs.el (source)...done
Loading loaddefs...done
Loading button...
Loading button...done
Loading emacs-lisp/cl-preloaded...
Loading emacs-lisp/cl-preloaded...done
Loading emacs-lisp/oclosure...
Loading emacs-lisp/oclosure...done
Loading obarray...
Loading obarray...done
Loading abbrev...
Loading abbrev...done
Loading help...
Loading help...done
Loading jka-cmpr-hook...
Loading jka-cmpr-hook...done
Loading epa-hook...
Loading epa-hook...done
Loading international/mule-cmds...
Loading international/mule-cmds...done
Loading case-table...
Loading case-table...done
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/international/charprop.el
(source)...
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/international/charprop.el
(source)...done
Loading international/characters...
Loading international/characters...done
Loading composite...
Loading composite...done
Loading language/chinese...
Loading language/chinese...done
Loading language/cyrillic...
Loading language/cyrillic...done
Loading language/indian...
Loading language/indian...done
Loading language/sinhala...
Loading language/sinhala...done
Loading language/english...
Loading language/english...done
Loading language/ethiopic...
Loading language/ethiopic...done
Loading language/european...
Loading language/european...done
Loading language/czech...
Loading language/czech...done
Loading language/slovak...
Loading language/slovak...done
Loading language/romanian...
Loading language/romanian...done
Loading language/greek...
Loading language/greek...done
Loading language/hebrew...
Loading language/hebrew...done
Loading international/cp51932...
Loading international/cp51932...done
Loading international/eucjp-ms...
Loading international/eucjp-ms...done
Loading language/japanese...
Loading language/japanese...done
Loading language/korean...
Loading language/korean...done
Loading language/lao...
Loading language/lao...done
Loading language/tai-viet...
Loading language/tai-viet...done
Loading language/thai...
Loading language/thai...done
Loading language/tibetan...
Loading language/tibetan...done
Loading language/vietnamese...
Loading language/vietnamese...done
Loading language/misc-lang...
Loading language/misc-lang...done
Loading language/utf-8-lang...
Loading language/utf-8-lang...done
Loading language/georgian...
Loading language/georgian...done
Loading language/khmer...
Loading language/khmer...done
Loading language/burmese...
Loading language/burmese...done
Loading language/cham...
Loading language/cham...done
Loading language/philippine...
Loading language/philippine...done
Loading language/indonesian...
Loading language/indonesian...done
Loading indent...
Loading indent...done
Loading emacs-lisp/cl-generic...
Loading emacs-lisp/cl-generic...done
Loading simple...
Loading simple...done
Loading emacs-lisp/seq...
Loading emacs-lisp/seq...done
Loading emacs-lisp/nadvice...
Loading emacs-lisp/nadvice...done
Loading minibuffer...
Loading minibuffer...done
Loading frame...
Loading frame...done
Loading startup...
Loading startup...done
Loading term/tty-colors...
Loading term/tty-colors...done
Loading font-core...
Loading font-core...done
Loading emacs-lisp/syntax...
Loading emacs-lisp/syntax...done
Loading font-lock...
Loading font-lock...done
Loading jit-lock...
Loading jit-lock...done
Loading mouse...
Loading mouse...done
Loading scroll-bar...
Loading scroll-bar...done
Loading select...
Loading select...done
Loading emacs-lisp/timer...
Loading emacs-lisp/timer...done
Loading emacs-lisp/easymenu...
Loading emacs-lisp/easymenu...done
Loading isearch...
Loading isearch...done
Loading rfn-eshadow...
Loading rfn-eshadow...done
Loading menu-bar...
Loading menu-bar...done
Loading tab-bar...
Loading tab-bar...done
Loading emacs-lisp/lisp...
Loading emacs-lisp/lisp...done
Loading textmodes/page...
Loading textmodes/page...done
Loading register...
Loading register...done
Loading textmodes/paragraphs...
Loading textmodes/paragraphs...done
Loading progmodes/prog-mode...
Loading progmodes/prog-mode...done
Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode...
Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode...done
Loading textmodes/text-mode...
Loading textmodes/text-mode...done
Loading textmodes/fill...
Loading textmodes/fill...done
Loading newcomment...
Loading newcomment...done
Loading replace...
Loading replace...done
Loading emacs-lisp/tabulated-list...
Loading emacs-lisp/tabulated-list...done
Loading buff-menu...
Loading buff-menu...done
Loading fringe...
Loading fringe...done
Loading emacs-lisp/regexp-opt...
Loading emacs-lisp/regexp-opt...done
Loading image...
Loading image...done
Loading international/fontset...
Loading international/fontset...done
Loading dnd...
Loading dnd...done
Loading tool-bar...
Loading tool-bar...done
Loading dynamic-setting...
Loading dynamic-setting...done
Loading touch-screen...
Loading touch-screen...done
Loading x-dnd...
Loading x-dnd...done
Loading term/common-win...
Loading term/common-win...done
Loading term/x-win...
Loading term/x-win...done
Loading mwheel...
Loading mwheel...done
Loading progmodes/elisp-mode...
Loading progmodes/elisp-mode...done
Loading emacs-lisp/float-sup...
Loading emacs-lisp/float-sup...done
Loading vc/vc-hooks...
Loading vc/vc-hooks...done
Loading vc/ediff-hook...
Loading vc/ediff-hook...done
Loading uniquify...
Loading uniquify...done
Loading electric...
Loading electric...done
Loading paren...
Loading paren...done
Loading emacs-lisp/shorthands...
Loading emacs-lisp/shorthands...done
Loading emacs-lisp/eldoc...
Loading emacs-lisp/eldoc...done
Loading emacs-lisp/cconv...
Loading emacs-lisp/cconv...done
Loading cus-start...
Loading cus-start...done
Loading tooltip...
Loading tooltip...done
Loading international/iso-transl...
Loading international/iso-transl...done
Loading emacs-lisp/rmc...
Loading emacs-lisp/rmc...done
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/leim/leim-list.el (source)...
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1.50/lisp/leim/leim-list.el (source)...done
Finding pointers to doc strings...
Finding pointers to doc strings...done
---------------



In GNU Emacs 30.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.34, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2025-04-03 built on
 dev1.olwresearch.com
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101011
System Description: openSUSE Leap 15.6

Configured using:
 'configure --infodir=/usr/local/share/emacs/30/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/local/share/emacs/30/share/man
 --docdir=/usr/local/share/emacs/30/share/doc/emacs
 --localedir=/usr/local/share/emacs/30/share/locale'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode
mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date subr-x
cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cus-start cconv eldoc paren
electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel
term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd touch-screen tool-bar dnd fontset
image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode
lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch
easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax
font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic
indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese
tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek
romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese
composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs
theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties
overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk
x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 188219 22990) (symbols 48 21967 0) (strings 32 54381 3496)
 (string-bytes 1 1274237) (vectors 16 34665)
 (vector-slots 8 1223310 138052) (floats 8 194 18)
 (intervals 56 377 21) (buffers 992 11))

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Subject: bug#77520: 30.1.50; Installed emacs is loading loadup.el from source
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> From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:28:05 -0400
> 
> When I run './src/emacs-30.1.50 -Q' from the build directory, I get the
> expected behavior.  I install the built emacs using "make install" into
> /usr/local with some version-specific directories configured (see the
> options) so I can have multiple major versions of emacs installed.  When
> I run '/usr/local/bin/emacs-30.1.50 -Q', the following is displayed in
> the terminal window:
> ------
> Loading loadup.el (source)...
> Dump mode: nil

This means Emacs cannot find its pdumper file.  You need to figure out
why.  Crystal ball says you used some non-standard procedure for
installing the built Emacs, so the pdumper file is either not
installed or is installed under the name different from what EMacs
looks for.

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On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 3:34=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> > From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:28:05 -0400
> >
> > When I run './src/emacs-30.1.50 -Q' from the build directory, I get the
> > expected behavior.  I install the built emacs using "make install" into
> > /usr/local with some version-specific directories configured (see the
> > options) so I can have multiple major versions of emacs installed.  Whe=
n
> > I run '/usr/local/bin/emacs-30.1.50 -Q', the following is displayed in
> > the terminal window:
> > ------
> > Loading loadup.el (source)...
> > Dump mode: nil
>
> This means Emacs cannot find its pdumper file.  You need to figure out
> why.  Crystal ball says you used some non-standard procedure for
> installing the built Emacs, so the pdumper file is either not
> installed or is installed under the name different from what EMacs
> looks for.

Other than specifying version-specific paths in the configure (details
in bug report), I just used "make -j $(nproc)" and "sudo make
install".
I've used this approach for a while to maintain separate lisp
libraries and documentation while installing multiple versions of
emacs. (newlines added to shell output for visual clarity).

----------------------
owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> ls /usr/local/bin/emacs*
/usr/local/bin/emacs        /usr/local/bin/emacs-28.3
/usr/local/bin/emacs-29.3.50  /usr/local/bin/emacs-30.1.50
/usr/local/bin/emacsclient  /usr/local/bin/emacs-29.0.91
/usr/local/bin/emacs-30.0.50

owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> ls /usr/local/lib/emacs/
28.3/    29.0.91/ 29.3.50/ 30.0.50/ 30.1.50/

owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> ls /usr/local/lib/emacs/30.1.50/
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> ls
/usr/local/lib/emacs/30.1.50/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/
emacs-915e4e5cb8d283f00a79086d479910f292af5fe7b2430c3eaae2631e73dab0d7.pdmp
 hexl      rcs2log
emacs-d016b46c0511d7b5a01304258481021fb366397c719be76601044696239ac9cf.pdmp
 movemail  update-game-score

owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> /usr/local/bin/emacs-30.1.50
--fingerprint
Not initialized

owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> ./BUILD/src/emacs-30.1.50.1
--fingerprint
d016b46c0511d7b5a01304258481021fb366397c719be76601044696239ac9cf
----------------------
For comparison, I tried a previously installed copy of 30.0.50:
----------------------
owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> ls
/usr/local/lib/emacs/30.0.50/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/
emacs-4c6b60663e1157be3085c73f1e2ac7187bc745455a7531f00d78a41d2fd1dbbd.pdmp
 emacs-bc4b7834c0e05bc2b531ab001a62a6546f5bde655069f59b363e75b428b1dde6.pdm=
p
 update-game-score
emacs-104460d468e0a372d127c340258407e60ce36cf166d4e182cfe9f46f70c6f5f9.pdmp
 hexl
emacs-a93e06357fd60c362c6a3db9e95355a96eb59830d567f7d01bb22c4ffb81bcad.pdmp
 rcs2log

owinebar@dev1:~/projects/emacs/emacs-30> /usr/local/bin/emacs-30.0.50
--fingerprint
104460d468e0a372d127c340258407e60ce36cf166d4e182cfe9f46f70c6f5f9
----------------------

Lynn

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