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When accessing certain feeds with `nnatom', it is possible to notice the
absence of characters such as curly quotes.

To reproduce, which is possible with `emacs -Q', please:

1. M-x load-library RET gnus RET
2. M-x gnus
3. In the groups buffer:
   - press B (shift+b), then type nnatom and insert the address
     planet.emcaslife.com/atom.xml then RET
4. In the browse server buffer, RET and select an article with RET

Results in:

        - It should be noticeable that curly quotes are missing from the
          text.  This can be validated by opening the original article
          link in a browser.

Additionally, in feeds like YouTube channels, the link to the video is
missing.  It is also possible to reproduce this with `emacs -Q' by
following the steps described above, but change the address to (Prot's
channel):

- www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UC0uTPqBCFIpZxlz_Lv1tk_g

Results in:

        - Instead of the link, the content of the article is:
          (nil (Content-Type . text/html) links)


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>>>>> Fernando de Morais writes:

    > When accessing certain feeds with `nnatom', it is possible to notice the
    > absence of characters such as curly quotes.

    > To reproduce, which is possible with `emacs -Q', please:

    > 1. M-x load-library RET gnus RET
    > 2. M-x gnus
    > 3. In the groups buffer:
    >    - press B (shift+b), then type nnatom and insert the address
    >      planet.emcaslife.com/atom.xml then RET
    > 4. In the browse server buffer, RET and select an article with RET

    > Results in:

    >         - It should be noticeable that curly quotes are missing from the
    >           text.  This can be validated by opening the original article
    >           link in a browser.

I think those characters disappear due to the text being HTML, which
causes Gnus to display it differently.
AFAICT, the characters do appear in the body of the text saved by nnatom.

    > Additionally, in feeds like YouTube channels, the link to the video is
    > missing.  It is also possible to reproduce this with `emacs -Q' by
    > following the steps described above, but change the address to (Prot's
    > channel):

    > - www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UC0uTPqBCFIpZxlz_Lv1tk_g

    > Results in:

    >         - Instead of the link, the content of the article is:
    >           (nil (Content-Type . text/html) links)

YouTube "articles" should actually contain two links, a link to the
channel and the video; unfortunately even though I remember testing this
it seems I made a typo and any article with an empty body (other than
links) will be broken in this way.
Attached a patch which fixes this.

Daniel

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From 5cca19014b90b2edcbbc3373cd9c66c75ed34561 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 01:29:44 +0300
Subject: [PATCH] nnatom: Fix parsing of empty articles

* lisp/gnus/nnatom.el (nnatom--read-parts): Fix typo
---
 lisp/gnus/nnatom.el | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el b/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el
index 281c3a1aeed..0d2136f20cb 100644
--- a/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el
@@ -269,7 +269,7 @@ nnatom--read-parts
            (or st (push summary parts)))
           ((setq content (or summary content))
            (push (append content '(links)) parts))
-          (t (push '((nil (Content-Type . "text/html") links)) parts)))
+          (t (push '(nil (Content-Type . "text/html") links) parts)))
     parts))
 (defvoo nnatom-read-parts-function #'nnatom--read-parts
   nil nnfeed-read-parts-function)
-- 
2.49.0

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Hello Daniel,

Thank you for checking on this issue.  I applied the patch and it fixed
the problem with YouTube channel feeds!

Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:

> I think those characters disappear due to the text being HTML, which
> causes Gnus to display it differently.
> AFAICT, the characters do appear in the body of the text saved by nnatom.

In that case, do you think this is something that can be solved in
`nnatom', or would it require investigating other parts of Gnus?  I ask
because I used `nnrss' + atom2rss.xml for a while to read some Atom
feeds, and this issue with the characters didn't appear.

Interestingly, Philip Kaludercic's feed (amodernist.com/all.atom)
doesn't show the problem when accessed via `nnatom'...

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>>>>> Fernando de Morais writes:

    > Hello Daniel,
    > Thank you for checking on this issue.  I applied the patch and it fixed
    > the problem with YouTube channel feeds!

    > Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:

    >> I think those characters disappear due to the text being HTML, which
    >> causes Gnus to display it differently.
    >> AFAICT, the characters do appear in the body of the text saved by nnatom.

    > In that case, do you think this is something that can be solved in
    > `nnatom', or would it require investigating other parts of Gnus?  I ask
    > because I used `nnrss' + atom2rss.xml for a while to read some Atom
    > feeds, and this issue with the characters didn't appear.

IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
"bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).

    > Interestingly, Philip Kaludercic's feed (amodernist.com/all.atom)
    > doesn't show the problem when accessed via `nnatom'...

The curly quotes I found in this feed do not appear literally in the
feed, but rather appear as "&#8220;" and "&#8221;" in the HTML content
of the article; AFAIU this is the correct way to include such characters
in HTML, so it doesn't surprise me they show up correctly in Gnus.

    > Thanks again!

Thank you for reporting these issues,
Daniel

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Hello Daniel,

Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:

> IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
> would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
> "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).

`shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
characters appeared normally.

I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
then?

> Thank you for reporting these issues,

You're welcome!

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>>>>> Fernando de Morais writes:

    > Hello Daniel,
    > Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:

    >> IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
    >> would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
    >> "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).

    > `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
    > did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
    > navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
    > characters appeared normally.

    > I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
    > everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
    > then?

Interesting, looking at the page source it seems the quotes are included
literally like they are in the Atom feed, so I would expect it to be
broken in the same way, but it also seems fine on my end; I'll have to
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Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?

> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
> 
> Hello Daniel,
> 
> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
> 
> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
> characters appeared normally.
> 
> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
> then?
> 
> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
> 
> You're welcome!
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Fernando de Morais.
> 
> 
> 
>

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>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:

    > Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?

I haven't had time to look into it properly yet, sorry.
I plan to test with HTML emails in Gnus (to figure out whether the issue
occurs in general when Gnus renders an HTML article, or just nnatom HTML
articles).

    >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
    >> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
    >> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
    >> 
    >> Hello Daniel,
    >> 
    >> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
    >> 
    >> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
    >> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
    >> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
    >> 
    >> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
    >> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
    >> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
    >> characters appeared normally.
    >> 
    >> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
    >> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
    >> then?
    >> 
    >> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
    >> 
    >> You're welcome!
    >> 
    >> -- 
    >> Regards,
    >> Fernando de Morais.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >>

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Ping!  Any progress here?

> From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>,  77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:04:08 +0300
> 
> >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
>     > Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?
> 
> I haven't had time to look into it properly yet, sorry.
> I plan to test with HTML emails in Gnus (to figure out whether the issue
> occurs in general when Gnus renders an HTML article, or just nnatom HTML
> articles).
> 
>     >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>     >> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
>     >> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
>     >> 
>     >> Hello Daniel,
>     >> 
>     >> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
>     >> 
>     >> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
>     >> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
>     >> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
>     >> 
>     >> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
>     >> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
>     >> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
>     >> characters appeared normally.
>     >> 
>     >> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
>     >> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
>     >> then?
>     >> 
>     >> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
>     >> 
>     >> You're welcome!
>     >> 
>     >> -- 
>     >> Regards,
>     >> Fernando de Morais.
>     >> 
>     >> 
>     >> 
>     >> 
>

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Ping! Ping! Can we make some further progress here?

> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:18:45 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> 
> Ping!  Any progress here?
> 
> > From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>,  77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:04:08 +0300
> > 
> > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> > 
> >     > Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?
> > 
> > I haven't had time to look into it properly yet, sorry.
> > I plan to test with HTML emails in Gnus (to figure out whether the issue
> > occurs in general when Gnus renders an HTML article, or just nnatom HTML
> > articles).
> > 
> >     >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >     >> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
> >     >> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
> >     >> 
> >     >> Hello Daniel,
> >     >> 
> >     >> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
> >     >> 
> >     >> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
> >     >> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
> >     >> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
> >     >> 
> >     >> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
> >     >> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
> >     >> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
> >     >> characters appeared normally.
> >     >> 
> >     >> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
> >     >> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
> >     >> then?
> >     >> 
> >     >> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
> >     >> 
> >     >> You're welcome!
> >     >> 
> >     >> -- 
> >     >> Regards,
> >     >> Fernando de Morais.
> >     >> 
> >     >> 
> >     >> 
> >     >> 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>

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Ping! Ping! Ping! Daniel, please respond.

> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 11:50:34 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> 
> Ping! Ping! Can we make some further progress here?
> 
> > Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:18:45 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> > 
> > Ping!  Any progress here?
> > 
> > > From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
> > > Cc: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>,  77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:04:08 +0300
> > > 
> > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> > > 
> > >     > Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?
> > > 
> > > I haven't had time to look into it properly yet, sorry.
> > > I plan to test with HTML emails in Gnus (to figure out whether the issue
> > > occurs in general when Gnus renders an HTML article, or just nnatom HTML
> > > articles).
> > > 
> > >     >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > >     >> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
> > >     >> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> Hello Daniel,
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
> > >     >> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
> > >     >> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
> > >     >> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
> > >     >> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
> > >     >> characters appeared normally.
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
> > >     >> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
> > >     >> then?
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> You're welcome!
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> -- 
> > >     >> Regards,
> > >     >> Fernando de Morais.
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> 
> > >     >> 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:

    > Ping! Ping! Ping! Daniel, please respond.

Sorry, I'm very sick for a few weeks now (getting better hopefully),
this issue is specific to nnatom, I did test but need to do more
research, I think I'll be able to do this soon.
Did not expect to be away for so long, sorry again, I'll make sure to
write soon whether or not I made progress

    >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
    >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 11:50:34 +0300
    >> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
    >> 
    >> Ping! Ping! Can we make some further progress here?
    >> 
    >> > Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
    >> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:18:45 +0300
    >> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
    >> > 
    >> > Ping!  Any progress here?
    >> > 
    >> > > From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
    >> > > Cc: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>,  77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
    >> > > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:04:08 +0300
    >> > > 
    >> > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
    >> > > 
    >> > >     > Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?
    >> > > 
    >> > > I haven't had time to look into it properly yet, sorry.
    >> > > I plan to test with HTML emails in Gnus (to figure out whether the issue
    >> > > occurs in general when Gnus renders an HTML article, or just nnatom HTML
    >> > > articles).
    >> > > 
    >> > >     >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
    >> > >     >> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
    >> > >     >> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> Hello Daniel,
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
    >> > >     >> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
    >> > >     >> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
    >> > >     >> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
    >> > >     >> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
    >> > >     >> characters appeared normally.
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
    >> > >     >> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
    >> > >     >> then?
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> You're welcome!
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> -- 
    >> > >     >> Regards,
    >> > >     >> Fernando de Morais.
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > >     >> 
    >> > > 
    >> > 
    >> > 
    >> > 
    >> > 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
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>>>>> Daniel Semyonov writes:

>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
    >> Ping! Ping! Ping! Daniel, please respond.

    > Sorry, I'm very sick for a few weeks now (getting better hopefully),
    > this issue is specific to nnatom, I did test but need to do more
    > research, I think I'll be able to do this soon.
    > Did not expect to be away for so long, sorry again, I'll make sure to
    > write soon whether or not I made progress

Not sure how no one noticed this for so long, but nnatom/nnfeed don't
take into account the fact that MIME messages can only contain ASCII
text (in the case of Gnus, it seems non-ASCII text is simply not shown
when an article is displayed); Non-ASCII text must encoded in one of a
two ways specific to MIME to be displayed correctly.

However, I made some simple changes to encode the body of articles using
'quoted-printable' encoding to test this, and yet non-ASCII characters
still seem to be missing, even though looking at the raw article I can
see it was encoded correctly and all the appropriate MIME headers are
set correctly (I even tested with an HTML email with identical content
where non-ASCII characters are visible through Gnus, and it seems the
raw articles are nearly identical, barring some headers specific to the
email unrelated to encoding).

I'm honestly not sure how to proceed from here, I don't know what could
be causing this difference at this point.

From a cursory look at how nnrss handles this, it seems that encoding
the body is handled automatically there, as the message is structured
with MML and then converted to MIME using 'mml-to-mime' (which also
encodes the message body); if I don't figure it out soon I'll guess I'll
convert nnatom to use this method too.

    >>> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
    >>> Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 11:50:34 +0300
    >>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
    >>> 
    >>> Ping! Ping! Can we make some further progress here?
    >>> 
    >>> > Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN
    >>> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:18:45 +0300
    >>> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
    >>> > 
    >>> > Ping!  Any progress here?
    >>> > 
    >>> > > From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
    >>> > > Cc: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>,  77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
    >>> > > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:04:08 +0300
    >>> > > 
    >>> > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
    >>> > > 
    >>> > >     > Ping! How should we proceed with this issue?
    >>> > > 
    >>> > > I haven't had time to look into it properly yet, sorry.
    >>> > > I plan to test with HTML emails in Gnus (to figure out whether the issue
    >>> > > occurs in general when Gnus renders an HTML article, or just nnatom HTML
    >>> > > articles).
    >>> > > 
    >>> > >     >> Cc: 77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
    >>> > >     >> From: Fernando de Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>
    >>> > >     >> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 10:33:52 -0300
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> Hello Daniel,
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN> writes:
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> > IIRC HTML articles are displayed by Gnus using shr.el, I assume this
    >>> > >     >> > would need to be fixed there (though I'm not sure if this is really a
    >>> > >     >> > "bug" or expected behavior for an HTML renderer).
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> `shr' is also the default HTML render for EWW, if I'm not mistaken.  I
    >>> > >     >> did a test: I repeated the same steps from my original report and
    >>> > >     >> navigated, via the article link, to the original page using EWW, and the
    >>> > >     >> characters appeared normally.
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> I also navigated to the feed page (planet.emacslife.com) via EWW, and
    >>> > >     >> everything is displayed normally there.  Maybe is not related to `shr',
    >>> > >     >> then?
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> > Thank you for reporting these issues,
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> You're welcome!
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> -- 
    >>> > >     >> Regards,
    >>> > >     >> Fernando de Morais.
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > >     >> 
    >>> > > 
    >>> > 
    >>> > 
    >>> > 
    >>> > 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>

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>>>>> Daniel Semyonov writes:

>>>>> Daniel Semyonov writes:
>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes:
    >>> Ping! Ping! Ping! Daniel, please respond.

    >> Sorry, I'm very sick for a few weeks now (getting better hopefully),
    >> this issue is specific to nnatom, I did test but need to do more
    >> research, I think I'll be able to do this soon.
    >> Did not expect to be away for so long, sorry again, I'll make sure to
    >> write soon whether or not I made progress

    > Not sure how no one noticed this for so long, but nnatom/nnfeed don't
    > take into account the fact that MIME messages can only contain ASCII
    > text (in the case of Gnus, it seems non-ASCII text is simply not shown
    > when an article is displayed); Non-ASCII text must encoded in one of a
    > two ways specific to MIME to be displayed correctly.

    > However, I made some simple changes to encode the body of articles using
    > 'quoted-printable' encoding to test this, and yet non-ASCII characters
    > still seem to be missing, even though looking at the raw article I can
    > see it was encoded correctly and all the appropriate MIME headers are
    > set correctly (I even tested with an HTML email with identical content
    > where non-ASCII characters are visible through Gnus, and it seems the
    > raw articles are nearly identical, barring some headers specific to the
    > email unrelated to encoding).

    > I'm honestly not sure how to proceed from here, I don't know what could
    > be causing this difference at this point.

    > From a cursory look at how nnrss handles this, it seems that encoding
    > the body is handled automatically there, as the message is structured
    > with MML and then converted to MIME using 'mml-to-mime' (which also
    > encodes the message body); if I don't figure it out soon I'll guess I'll
    > convert nnatom to use this method too.

Just wanted to give an update, I'm still dealing with health issues so
it's taking me a while, but I've decided to convert nnfeed and nnatom to
also use MML; this unfortunately requires changing a lot of the
existing code.

Daniel

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I think commit 98b2516f6e868dcda33076ab6e7b7b270c468d00 fixed it.

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Hi,

Yarl <yarl-baudig@HIDDEN> writes:

> I think commit 98b2516f6e868dcda33076ab6e7b7b270c468d00 fixed it.

I don't think so. I've built locally from commit the master branch,
commit 1b2b433fc0a, and the problem persists, visiting for example the
Atom feed at https://planet.guix.gnu.org/atom.xml, I see:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
From: Planet Guix
Subject: First few months with my Librem 13
Date: 2019-11-05 04:05:50 (6 years, 4 weeks, 22 hours ago)

(nil (Content-Type . text/html) links)


--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

So the original bug ("missing content in articles") I can still
reproduce.

It does fix encoding problems though; I used to see for example ^Y in
place of apostrophes in articles from https://wingolog.org/feed/atom, a
bug which is now resolved.

-- 
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Maxim

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Hi,

Yarl <yarl-baudig@HIDDEN> writes:

> I think commit 98b2516f6e868dcda33076ab6e7b7b270c468d00 fixed it.

I don't think so. I've built locally from commit the master branch,
commit 1b2b433fc0a, and the problem persists, visiting for example the
Atom feed at https://planet.guix.gnu.org/atom.xml, I see:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
From: Planet Guix
Subject: First few months with my Librem 13
Date: 2019-11-05 04:05:50 (6 years, 4 weeks, 22 hours ago)

(nil (Content-Type . text/html) links)


--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

So the original bug ("missing content in articles") I can still
reproduce.

It does fix encoding problems though; I used to see for example ^Y in
place of apostrophes in articles from https://wingolog.org/feed/atom, a
bug which is now resolved.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

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>>>>> Maxim Cournoyer writes:

    > Hi,
    > Yarl <yarl-baudig@HIDDEN> writes:

    >> I think commit 98b2516f6e868dcda33076ab6e7b7b270c468d00 fixed it.

    > I don't think so. I've built locally from commit the master branch,
    > commit 1b2b433fc0a, and the problem persists, visiting for example the
    > Atom feed at https://planet.guix.gnu.org/atom.xml, I see:

    > From: Planet Guix
    > Subject: First few months with my Librem 13
    > Date: 2019-11-05 04:05:50 (6 years, 4 weeks, 22 hours ago)

    > (nil (Content-Type . text/html) links)


    > So the original bug ("missing content in articles") I can still
    > reproduce.

This is fixed by a patch I sent in an earlier message, though it was
never applied (I've attached it again to this message).

    > It does fix encoding problems though; I used to see for example ^Y in
    > place of apostrophes in articles from https://wingolog.org/feed/atom, a
    > bug which is now resolved.

I tested this now and it does seem to have fixed this for the articles I
used for testing as well.
Thank you very much Eli, I was working on and off on a patch for this
for months now, it probably wouldn't have been ready anytime soon, and
would have made much of the code in nnfeed/nnatom much more complex.

Daniel


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From 5cca19014b90b2edcbbc3373cd9c66c75ed34561 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 01:29:44 +0300
Subject: [PATCH] nnatom: Fix parsing of empty articles

* lisp/gnus/nnatom.el (nnatom--read-parts): Fix typo
---
 lisp/gnus/nnatom.el | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el b/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el
index 281c3a1aeed..0d2136f20cb 100644
--- a/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/nnatom.el
@@ -269,7 +269,7 @@ nnatom--read-parts
            (or st (push summary parts)))
           ((setq content (or summary content))
            (push (append content '(links)) parts))
-          (t (push '((nil (Content-Type . "text/html") links)) parts)))
+          (t (push '(nil (Content-Type . "text/html") links) parts)))
     parts))
 (defvoo nnatom-read-parts-function #'nnatom--read-parts
   nil nnfeed-read-parts-function)
-- 
2.49.0


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> From: Daniel Semyonov <daniel@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Yarl <yarl-baudig@HIDDEN>,  77539 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  Fernando de
>  Morais <fernandodemorais.jf@HIDDEN>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2025 09:30:18 +0200
> 
> >>>>> Maxim Cournoyer writes:
> 
>     > Hi,
>     > Yarl <yarl-baudig@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
>     >> I think commit 98b2516f6e868dcda33076ab6e7b7b270c468d00 fixed it.
> 
>     > I don't think so. I've built locally from commit the master branch,
>     > commit 1b2b433fc0a, and the problem persists, visiting for example the
>     > Atom feed at https://planet.guix.gnu.org/atom.xml, I see:
> 
>     > From: Planet Guix
>     > Subject: First few months with my Librem 13
>     > Date: 2019-11-05 04:05:50 (6 years, 4 weeks, 22 hours ago)
> 
>     > (nil (Content-Type . text/html) links)
> 
> 
>     > So the original bug ("missing content in articles") I can still
>     > reproduce.
> 
> This is fixed by a patch I sent in an earlier message, though it was
> never applied (I've attached it again to this message).
> 
>     > It does fix encoding problems though; I used to see for example ^Y in
>     > place of apostrophes in articles from https://wingolog.org/feed/atom, a
>     > bug which is now resolved.
> 
> I tested this now and it does seem to have fixed this for the articles I
> used for testing as well.
> Thank you very much Eli, I was working on and off on a patch for this
> for months now, it probably wouldn't have been ready anytime soon, and
> would have made much of the code in nnfeed/nnatom much more complex.

Sorry, I don't think I understand: does the above mean we can install
the patch you posted and it will work well?  Or do you mean something
else?

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