Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2025 08:45:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 10 04:45:30 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u2nXO-0007bJ-75 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2025 04:45:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47114) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u2nXM-0007J2-6N for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2025 04:45:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u2nXE-0005xQ-O2; Thu, 10 Apr 2025 04:45:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=GVQnBVxCAunqAMiCgYA9E9MfwypkGI5eKwBi5D0czek=; b=lDTPv7hq5M0owtIbSwrN XAuv+zVc5+UZq3y1jlUpDfzh3+ZQVdYjl7crf3Gz2XF6Cvi4DpvTdvCAHIVxOwZ4+wLTkgO12hS5i JR0LyLhu53Gog+8gWA7t78Nttcc6vgi9no23i1XUGGcebY5WGYtcLeCXDuX9DXe4U0TXDcL7AbqGO x7Z01nZb2ECjLOzMajzwa0ED9Pte6Tex6In/vfbYdrR5eOhxuEP0/9Zs8WBW5kTYWfZvzW70RHqJE xGwlzAcz2bVrR2VlBpsk60R2mkvyfzxhBXQXoLU/c1s0sdN9usXTBAerSx+pQXHMOehIvqfUZo2qe pl1I1/k6uwxFFg==; From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <87v7red706.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87v7red706.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:44:57 +0200 Message-ID: <877c3so16e.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: > >>> "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: >>> >>>>> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >>>>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >>>>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>>>> >>>>> > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. >>>>> >>>>> > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming >>>>> > language implemented by poke. >>>>> >>>>> It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will >>>>> surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the >>>>> difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. >>>>> but they can differ more. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or >>>>> subpoke. >>>> >>>> What about renaming poke-mode.el to poke-lang-mode.el? >>> >>> I have to admit that "-lang-mode" sounds off. Is there a reason you >>> don't bundle poke-mode.el with the poke package? >> >> poke-mode.el is useful even if you don't use the Emacs interface to >> poke. > > But that is not inherently a reason to package both features in the same > package. The user gets both the Poke interface and poke-mode in the > same package, but they don't have to use everything. That would require a multi-file package? >> I myself use the poke CLI primarily, and still use poke-mode.el all the >> time to write my .pk files. >> >> Then, what about to rename poke.el into something else. Suggestions?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2025 00:12:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 09 20:12:42 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u2fX8-0001m7-8s for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2025 20:12:42 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-x531.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::531]:56753) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stefankangas@HIDDEN>) id 1u2fX5-0001ln-65 for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2025 20:12:39 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-x531.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5e5dce099f4so314722a12.1 for <77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 09 Apr 2025 17:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1744243953; x=1744848753; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=mJ0JF+1jl+MGc1gVm/1LNlFVtifoSxtvBrxQ3xWMa94=; b=C9jb9Yb0NIgf7rT9lsQRb8NVY+oZsSdWWgDvA3zIn5uZ3EpEYXg8HjcEhGz+sWE+gn yvg4oqZj7UfpruGcMnnO3FFld8F8roWM70WPRtajRfdvrmQz51mw+Wo/E/MqNHy3OyXw G4m5IXHphIXScEaiGU5zjYMKZ0UymTMyOMgheHVQ5DQCjsy1GQM90cAxTIiFBAs/Daos XjafOYw+ZDsy0OTt8Z48dayLk9zDGQFwA3KSclV6u5sgxMFYTXAnSpIS4xWR3bGHrSMI FUPPV3XgTU8uw9fCsnvd+yOvRvLAbwt/Cwer9MwQOpWSApIYa9DhVdw85es7aK2wArwF oUmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1744243953; x=1744848753; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=mJ0JF+1jl+MGc1gVm/1LNlFVtifoSxtvBrxQ3xWMa94=; b=oEyny9RoW/KGQVf2f0BbfBeCbDsOhptwVMjqc9gZDdM2s+sJx20FhmkVDT0CSIvUis 67pYt2ZRmLSjStN1mLw8lsoxZJUTnkzF803eTmfMWLzm+HdYJUy7ME5g+g7v+oNyeESo n3XzUoX8yRiOyRlpaux27hVpGcQMFk3HFHxCprg3iUsAPKojRMfzWr4CDFT8hKQw9jtX k9cq/58cCCJ0AqTPv3zPydhXxwDwdH31aYHxLpOQ/JB8SLvAn0ObeajX5tBiPjmOiccf jQiO3+Vge8bbmxOFZAXdtOBTDdXnwfgLFF5i7XQW355+QDR63xvNQ+C7INbRE0wbgaeC Cqhw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz6Dh0t7t/mjVUUCUMbzSSC7xxqmPOs9fMglIvS18mejysZfiU3 /R4MZJCDlUdoePx3UbC5SrDwbipwptPuXimTveLGZSQRM4UZivZtAhW/9+gxgmIo/7tN+1FZ2MS f1STM5zsXAo2RR4/mQ2jgRIcKNNM= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvGzTidJroV4fufFmtGLIpXyb7uOO2uOBAuTKvWoZ+W9rR6dmZBDX6GlUey2Zz QqYL05ZKRTdrRApc0CrjHCG1ag9G2orIk0TrNaPBahzoQUTaQD0MQNSvZ6BioTOn2icvVdr196A R9YU6qhE3/jE+cAPGYv7Rw X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHv1GGF+/rXvdqKHokreFwXoQlduRGgjsM6P19Cj+1r0ZL21OegHRNjJBAhTOwtUhQ53iNS1G2cC7akJXLO1A0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:2816:b0:5ed:d988:ae0c with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5f32c5fbb04mr183072a12.24.1744243952940; Wed, 09 Apr 2025 17:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 9 Apr 2025 17:12:32 -0700 Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 9 Apr 2025 17:12:32 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87v7red706.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87v7red706.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 17:12:32 -0700 X-Gm-Features: ATxdqUE0eWI8CG7fQomqsuC_w12GGVaIdiSbu3bXJVYkrbWQDt38dxZe0mOO5Po Message-ID: <CADwFkmkDm=8nmsExOVMFCLX3_gFFCu2MA3fhj1R=rCVidFJksw@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>, "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> I have to admit that "-lang-mode" sounds off. Is there a reason you >>> don't bundle poke-mode.el with the poke package? >> >> poke-mode.el is useful even if you don't use the Emacs interface to >> poke. > > But that is not inherently a reason to package both features in the same > package. The user gets both the Poke interface and poke-mode in the > same package, but they don't have to use everything. Agreed. Having a few unused autoloaded functions is very cheap.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2025 15:10:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 08 11:10:14 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34627 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u2Aac-0006AK-53 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 11:10:14 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:55231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1u2AaY-00064D-91 for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 11:10:11 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D109240027 for <77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 8 Apr 2025 17:10:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1744125003; bh=aQBckICf8268ApeiDVkoC/m+3dK1sYddSlHNlE8eWH0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:From; b=nSARVkywotQpSUncdIrsW/I/C8lF9AnJ2cQG7o+7fwqB+CNgXpf6ZU+tZJr+S+/WX 5iHuHASW3rUXAwwRrKa6FD7K+J/fdKG9CAiWnVcPXP56KfMeijSoI1V2heAqT1w0JM 0h6+uVZCmd0Z/FWA4SM7O/2kHZEQaC6EfJrzEYGwhP2/hJoATVEOHdZT/SXnH3SHea JyYsvzj1+7spR29c/yTRxvkKy/4GdqKwQQh8u0cYpzJaIkv22LeUhgL6wilqQd5PGq kmOpqh+HtrQxv2uAYVRKrxO9egU+DRszBFlg5y2leYOpxnbUNj4JjL3lWKmNGQFI0x g2TPKf1/ZK0rw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4ZX8dQ230Cz9rxQ; Tue, 8 Apr 2025 17:10:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> To: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@HIDDEN; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM OpenPGP: id=7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66"; preference=signencrypt Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2025 15:10:01 +0000 Message-ID: <87v7red706.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: >> "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>>> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >>>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >>>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>>> >>>> > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. >>>> >>>> > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming >>>> > language implemented by poke. >>>> >>>> It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will >>>> surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the >>>> difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. >>>> but they can differ more. >>>> >>>> Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or >>>> subpoke. >>> >>> What about renaming poke-mode.el to poke-lang-mode.el? >> >> I have to admit that "-lang-mode" sounds off. Is there a reason you >> don't bundle poke-mode.el with the poke package? > > poke-mode.el is useful even if you don't use the Emacs interface to > poke. But that is not inherently a reason to package both features in the same package. The user gets both the Poke interface and poke-mode in the same package, but they don't have to use everything. > I myself use the poke CLI primarily, and still use poke-mode.el all the > time to write my .pk files. > > Then, what about to rename poke.el into something else. Suggestions?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2025 21:11:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 07 17:11:09 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u1tkK-0000b2-Rg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 17:11:09 -0400 Received: from out-180.mta1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:203:375::b4]:17793) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jb@HIDDEN>) id 1u1tkI-0000aB-Ay for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 17:11:07 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeremybryant.net; s=key1; t=1744060258; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Po/Hbre829Xawilg9qpIzk5gQJBxGhaBoWoR7pdy6ok=; b=MB6TmJPfXgVnc4ax/g2/LioXWjFRR8xhutmiDo8PsdyfJJKl1GsbInDIpThbG+80eLdVWu GiNOrYNXaDOMSRq/Ko2zXVx6qq6hll9pDDTGaAqcnRT2VCpKJRFVCcdPbRbN05qlYeP7jA jzYhOaLga/UUf5gTEGFLer9MeByLWqgJGLeuUfE+2EKY/OelPtGmSIUhFd8I7/kUGnzAd9 UYNN4u7EZjfrrFYfzxoS2wfJnONN2nPXNcAT6khUX9TzWMbh24nIM/RV/d6fZe0gv01cxk Oep5ITnRYrIfxSNX49s7KDggJxNac0EW1FpFFbItYuMZgf9iHrebILjYHv+0hw== From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@HIDDEN> To: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> (Jose E. Marchesi's message of "Mon, 07 Apr 2025 18:24:09 +0200") References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 22:10:57 +0100 Message-ID: <87cydnsmn2.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: >> "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>>> > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. >>>> >>>> > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming >>>> > language implemented by poke. >>>> >>>> It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will >>>> surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the >>>> difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. >>>> but they can differ more. >>>> Yes, and the description of these as displayed by list-packages could be updated to clearer text? poke.el is described as 'Emacs meets GNU poke!' >>>> Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or >>>> subpoke. >>> >>> What about renaming poke-mode.el to poke-lang-mode.el? >> >> I have to admit that "-lang-mode" sounds off. Is there a reason you >> don't bundle poke-mode.el with the poke package? > > poke-mode.el is useful even if you don't use the Emacs interface to > poke. > > I myself use the poke CLI primarily, and still use poke-mode.el all the > time to write my .pk files. > > Then, what about to rename poke.el into something else. Suggestions? How would you describe the advantage of using poke.el rather than using M-x shell, and then poke?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2025 16:25:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 07 12:25:09 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56535 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u1pHZ-0003YA-CL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 12:25:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50196) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u1pHS-0003SL-Fk for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 12:25:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u1pHL-0008Nq-UB; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 12:24:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=wZ37rX434YY9j4lcKusXW4KhC0T3d/um5ETIxVW15yw=; b=bN2+N0sTUTtP/YkpC1Km EUQ4AsxGHcBualUQGypKTIMm8SyZkJiPG2TkuF8HjlMrH1+V3N0FRN5XHqlvifmmOuMBWBHNb97O9 AWhygwRXBhxztztJJ9mUX6v1rWsrtQVBjHWppIf82FHHOza0DNcWKi9Ni9s9KjWoYNoBmpP6SGp0A 5tHsVPIjx4m08tOn0XWGCVMsa2xMIwNTEM3y2HJTVnho+0DfXA2i7AYf6o+a80c4Sz1dPTiULZacW T+nLNri6aVJlTQMNQNYo0MfV7EQekfB+3PRpiQMK1oEu8fQGgKhdRFMb6R0X6VnjJNkjvRu4RUe3o DmEYFZFr12FKrA==; From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 18:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87semkj5xy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: > >>> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>> >>> > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. >>> >>> > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming >>> > language implemented by poke. >>> >>> It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will >>> surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the >>> difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. >>> but they can differ more. >>> >>> Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or >>> subpoke. >> >> What about renaming poke-mode.el to poke-lang-mode.el? > > I have to admit that "-lang-mode" sounds off. Is there a reason you > don't bundle poke-mode.el with the poke package? poke-mode.el is useful even if you don't use the Emacs interface to poke. I myself use the poke CLI primarily, and still use poke-mode.el all the time to write my .pk files. Then, what about to rename poke.el into something else. Suggestions?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2025 16:18:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 07 12:18:18 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u1pAw-0002yK-CI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 12:18:18 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:54159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1u1pAu-0002xo-Cs for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 12:18:17 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6279240101 for <77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:18:09 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1744042689; bh=7GNFlWZqp+njpCyvrmud9vGfJqV8nFyZcFRQkakLW+E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:From; b=SU3hVbAsgPcrldE255A3+RvJXyyj1oyQeI7up9Tm5OpspYA55zsNfjz3BDqa4H6c0 ra4lFCWEHm+/hucYJnaT2XymLz17d2z8cxvHortzy3k/caE7087d2UTxedpCIvl7PB mWZ9udxpg4MibM+G2j/llfzxJQUAOnU01IxOO4foxVBRD8/UQRbHnpMaunJiS3ryLI w+ZGQNlNqKsoXjTIw0ltK7VfxJaqlOCSxgmFlr2N4K1mIrLT494czcxQqOCX7nTra0 m/a0U3s75fuCUwZ1CsIWUtJidpvyFQXFWp5yTzrTo1fPhVaf1y6Gogy8HNcNutu1Sn Ub6m8vhqJIhvg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4ZWZBS68vRz9rxR; Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:18:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> To: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@HIDDEN; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM OpenPGP: id=7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66"; preference=signencrypt Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:18:06 +0000 Message-ID: <87ikngkksh.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> writes: >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >> >> > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. >> >> > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming >> > language implemented by poke. >> >> It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will >> surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the >> difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. >> but they can differ more. >> >> Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or >> subpoke. > > What about renaming poke-mode.el to poke-lang-mode.el? I have to admit that "-lang-mode" sounds off. Is there a reason you don't bundle poke-mode.el with the poke package?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2025 14:32:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 07 10:32:03 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u1nW7-00031l-HA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 10:32:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59632) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u1nW3-000311-Td for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 10:32:01 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u1nVy-0007YD-2v; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 10:31:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=ckfjjuu8IfevDAqKS2lSsbVB66eQiHxWUtAwXXPKeCQ=; b=Em+lOOzzQsWK9TEaVVc7 W7Y719BHA25O0j02xOhbUgELdnyfjVpNy2oTUok3N974kkntWW0MUm/bt+k/3sN88n1YB6CaogmfY Rh4ewJvGL6pU3B6IsKpBO7WnLNqnfLZAo33ssym1zp/Q8G0hgERZWrFYuNQgBZoZkrKe/aYd8AZnH ESTBNDpf3N/uS97svgoQKJkMTpTUTdPVtEofuJ7A2s0axffUzZmiYA97W1FjwXPvQN2vG5Sxf+RWG 48Q39yeZEKOnyh1uQ52tseLqqXuOrK+4HRxmKoGMuEPuyIx3VhSdidur+ZB48ctMp3fV6Uc5sgDTN wG2iNKGCSqg4sA==; From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> To: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:31:32 +0200 Message-ID: <877c3wkpq3.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, philipk@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. > > > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming > > language implemented by poke. > > It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will > surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the > difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. > but they can differ more. > > Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or > subpoke. What about renaming poke-mode.el to poke-lang-mode.el?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at 77549) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2025 10:48:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 07 06:48:57 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u1k2D-0004Fh-4g for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:48:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42608) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1u1k2A-0004FG-U6 for 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:48:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1u1k24-0004Op-2C; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:48:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=2a5PVZC+NplSxgwYhwgJHHf/u419fANL3mk97LBwLyg=; b=Skp1bBy5dWtF dNJH3fhxIam3JnoNRODb7ZoGHt2tyUeCF5hYzYBLmvn9RjhSMK8bGahOI21fYCsEguWkupjUlE7fj sPvBmTreBXTTLek8hNzBI8PknpdQVxRaWA06/YizCLsrx6R6spkREdJqvpal+th1ly7zd/TXGdqFj AxbAzg5sMnHkCRxtO6xZEowEqlRUqkusmJIZfuN+ylhFqz6eHyMlwvGOh78lPg3qNp2ebErxoHY3i NZFMjKUcFj3naB4b5fz1dZizQyRcQu9956ZxU9uS3/N92NuYMeNo+pgKOCVpL+7x4GJoEB8ERdyCY de6EN3Ra+1z3f/DsQgYVwg==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1u1k1t-0002wI-CG; Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:48:37 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> To: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> (jemarch@HIDDEN) Subject: Re: bug#77549: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-Id: <E1u1k1t-0002wI-CG@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:48:37 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77549 Cc: 77549 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jb@HIDDEN, philipk@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: rms@HIDDEN Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. > poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming > language implemented by poke. It makes sense now that you've explained it, but the simiarity will surely cause confusion. Can we adjust the names to make the difference clear? Of course, both names should mention Poke. but they can differ more. Perhaps the interface to Poke should be called poke-interface or subpoke. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2025 13:55:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 05 09:55:33 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42626 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u13zh-0006rb-BZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 09:55:33 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:58968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u13ze-0006mx-Ku for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 09:55:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u13zY-0001EU-4G for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 09:55:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jemarch@HIDDEN>) id 1u13zX-0001ZX-N9; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 09:55:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=4al9GRSj6aHPkTTdNbJIURPh4gvQtwmx0i7MCnnc9DA=; b=hl2ch6rQwxdRN4uUX+va 4MLf18wv/tsojqdli6INs/PrKD4k7ZSBWEdOe603KTPHjW3DwqgZHESnKOVTyU/MHVK0AbfKS1Jex yWiqEo8LaDJyaNdxPPUvdU5xUEAca4a96svjLr8lzInwpQA+EbYcsA9IEAY5RHOg+UUdvoj41j4Ak rcw7MVE4w59mZ2izWtRDpr9l3qthHleLM69LS9KNqxwatsev4/wXSL9XmW/gefslyOlHGAGABxoKc fqgpYQzUg5nsm3C175kbUZjS/j926VjRanSohq8aWXOVZva9YovhQmtIsLUHIayn9TNMIBFI4OKK3 k+cLTtDE8AWwwA==; From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@HIDDEN> To: Jeremy Bryant <jb@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? In-Reply-To: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 15:55:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87ecy6r9vg.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) These are two different modes. poke.el is an Emacs interface for poke. poke-mode.el is a mode to edit programs written in Poke, the programming language implemented by poke. > There are apparently 2 entries for GNU poke in GNU ELPA: > poke version 3.2 and poke-mode version 3.1 > > Both list maintainer Jose Marchesi (CC'd)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2025 12:38:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 05 08:38:49 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u12nR-0002UV-GU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 08:38:49 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:53968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jb@HIDDEN>) id 1u12nP-0002UG-NP for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 08:38:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jb@HIDDEN>) id 1u12nJ-0005TF-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 08:38:41 -0400 Received: from out-176.mta1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:203:375::b0]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jb@HIDDEN>) id 1u12nH-0007t9-L1 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sat, 05 Apr 2025 08:38:41 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeremybryant.net; s=key1; t=1743856714; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=R60ifFLjhhxVkmuqDSdeRHPppWDvj8Z8rrQNTUs+v4w=; b=omt0ppZACJRFd83o+AO7ktkSAqyy0QI3x7u3192qFTsvtvpoCm7lsqNfWMM+Cy5VaxQE31 xnmYjo8i4Cyr3+Kpwtz5CmRtbxWoWXdm5YV/dJbVVfWf9hzIwvliEikCckjn9JfxFLBdGK PJfI1iOLocZMeH/UFlLb9WcYUO4UnH2WcvXsWLbcwrOWnpC3sLI6z5tEYGvyH+maSP9kUv oDYXaP4OIapEDMIZLS2YQF4QwpuOBj9O7PJbOL0bM142/j5LIMsMAmG4zCNuV3rgH/FCe1 MpkyIXHRmOhV+wsRuA/UEp2bCI1ZcSIB+3wkfnvHVALcxn83Vv7CsM0+iEjesA== From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, Jose E. Marchesi <jemarch@HIDDEN>, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> Subject: ELPA: Duplicate entries for GNU Poke? Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 13:38:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87semmu6ky.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:41d0:203:375::b0; envelope-from=jb@HIDDEN; helo=out-176.mta1.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) There are apparently 2 entries for GNU poke in GNU ELPA: poke version 3.2 and poke-mode version 3.1 Both list maintainer Jose Marchesi (CC'd)
Jeremy Bryant <jb@HIDDEN>
:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
.
Full text available.bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
:bug#77549
; Package emacs
.
Full text available.
GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham,
1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd,
1994-97 Ian Jackson.