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Subject: Re: bug#77589: 30.1;
On Windows, dired does not display Junctions specially
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severity 77589 wishlist
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> From: dino chiesa <dpchiesa@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 23:15:59 +0000
> msip_labels:
>
> When using dired on emacs in Windows, Symlinks are displayed helpfully,
> with an indication of the target of the symlink. Junction entries are
> not displayed specially. There is no indication of the target of a
> Junction.
>
> Junctions in Windows are similar to Symbolic Links
> (symlinks) but slightly different. You can read a comparison here:
> https://superuser.com/a/1291446/3614
> (Why there are both Junctions and symlinks, I do not know)
>
> Junctions always use a directory as the target, and it is possible
> to create a Junction without elevated (Administrator) privileges. So it
> is sometimes more convenient to use a Junction, instead of a symlink.
AFAIK, Junction points are legacy/deprecated kind of symbolic links,
which are restricted wrt symlinks available on modern versions of
MS-Windows: junction points can only link to local directories (and
have security issues). Their only advantage is that they are
available on older Windows versions.
Emacs does support symlinks on MS-Windows, but I don't see a point in
adding complexity to the MS-Windows specific code to support this
deprecated kind of symlinks. It would add complexity, because
junctions are subtly different from symlinks, but the Posix model of
file attributes used by Emacs doesn't allow to distinguish between
them easily, so we'd need some kludges in all kinds of places. For
example, what to do when copying a junction -- create another junction
or a symlink? And how to display that in Dired buffers, given that
the "->" notation is already taken by symlinks, and nothing similar
exists on Posix systems (which Emacs on Windows emulates)? And how to
indicate the fact that a file is a junction point in the output of
file-attributes? Treating junctions as symlinks will cause trouble,
because a junction has restrictions that need to be observed.
So, on balance, I don't think we should add this to Emacs.
> That gets its information from dired.c (which I am not looking at), which
> populates a string for (file-attribute-type file-attr) in the case of symbolic link,
> but does not do the same for Junction. So I think maybe a change in dired.c
> for Windows might be necessary.
The current support for symlink is not in dired.c, it is in w32.c,
where we have our custom implementation of the 'stat' and 'lstat'
functions, which have symlink support built-in.
> This page discusses an approach to interrogating a file on Windows to determine if it is a Symlink or Junction:
>
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/cygwin/2023-November/254786.html
>
> HANDLE h = ...
> FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TAG_INFO at;
> if (GetFileInformationByHandleEx (h, FileAttributeTagInfo,
> &at, sizeof at))
> {
> if (at.FileAttributes & FILE_ATTRIBUTE_REPARSE_POINT)
> {
> /* Check at.ReparseTag:
> IO_REPARSE_TAG_LX_SYMLINK: WSL symlink
> IO_REPARSE_TAG_SYMLINK: Windows symlink
> IO_REPARSE_TAG_MOUNT_POINT: Volume mount point
> or directory junction
> IO_REPARSE_TAG_APPEXECLINK: App execution alias
> Anything else: *shrug*
> }
> }
Thanks, this is well-known, and you will see that we have a similar
code in w32.c in the Emacs source tree.
Bottom line: I don't think we should add this to Emacs. Other
opinions (with rationale) are welcome.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#77589; Package emacs.
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The bit for a Reparse Point, which includes SymbolicLinks as well as Junctions,
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From the Win32 File I/O documentation=0A=
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ants=0A=
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The bit for a Reparse Point, which includes SymbolicLinks as well as Juncti=
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FILE_ATTRIBUTE_REPARSE_POINT=0A=
1024 (0x00000400)=0A=
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After brief inspection, it seems like dired.c file_attributes is relying on=
s_ISLNK to determine if the file is a symlink. I am not sure what S_ISLNK =
does for Windows Junctions or if it even makes sense for a POSIX API to do=
something special for Windows Junctions. =0A=
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In my tests the Attributes surfaced at the powershell layer use that REPARS=
E_POINT bit, whether it is a symlink (file) or a Junction (directory). =0A=
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PS C:\test> Get-Item -Path regular-file.txt | Select-Object FullName, @{Na=
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l=0A=
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FullName : C:\test\regular-file.txt=0A=
AttributesHex : 0x20=0A=
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| fl=0A=
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FullName : C:\test\valid-symlink.txt=0A=
AttributesHex : 0x420=0A=
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} | fl=0A=
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FullName : C:\test\this-is-a-directory=0A=
AttributesHex : 0x10=0A=
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You can read a comparison here:=0A= https://superuser.com/a/1291446/3614=0A= (Why there are both Junctions and symlinks, I do not know)=0A= =0A= Junctions always use a directory as the target, and it is possible=0A= to create a Junction without elevated (Administrator) privileges. So it=0A= is sometimes more convenient to use a Junction, instead of a symlink.=0A= =0A= For example here is the dired output of a test directory. It contains a=0A= regular file, a symlink to that regular file, a broken symlink, a=0A= regular directory, and a Junction pointing to a different directory. The=0A= valid and broken symlinks are displayed helpfully, and dired helpfully=0A= uses a different face (dired-broken-symlink) for the broken symlink.=0A= dired displays the regular file and regular directory correctly too. But=0A= there is nothing that indicates the junction is not a regular directory:=0A= =0A= =A0 c:/Users/dpchi/test:=0A= =A0 drwx =A01 dpchi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 2025-04-06 15:= 47 .=0A= =A0 drwx =A01 Administrators =A0 =A0 =A0 16384 2025-04-06 15:46 ..=0A= =A0 lrwx =A01 Administrators =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 2025-04-06 15:44 broken-= symlink.txt -> c:/Users/dpchi/test/non-existent-file.txt=0A= =A0 -rw- =A01 dpchi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0148 2023-12-06 15:06= regular-file.txt=0A= =A0 drwx =A01 dpchi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 2025-04-06 15:= 47 this-is-a-directory=0A= =A0 drwx =A01 Administrators =A0 =A0 =A0 32768 2024-12-27 11:30 this-is-a-d= irectory-junction=0A= =A0 lrwx =A01 Administrators =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 2025-04-06 15:44 valid-s= ymlink.txt -> c:/Users/dpchi/test/regular-file.txt=0A= =0A= =0A= In Powershell, I can list the same directory and see the junction and=0A= its target.=0A= =0A= PS C:\Users\dpchi\test> get-childitem=0A= =0A= =A0 =A0 Directory: C:\Users\dpchi\test=0A= =0A= Mode =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 LastWriteTime =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Length N= ame=0A= ---- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ------------- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ------ -= ---=0A= d---- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04/6/2025 =A03:47 PM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0this-is-a-directory=0A= l---- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04/6/2025 =A03:43 PM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0this-is-a-directory-junction -> c:\Users\dpchi\elisp-2024=0A= la--- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04/6/2025 =A03:44 PM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A00 broken-symlink.txt -> c:\Users\dpchi\test\non-existent-file.txt=0A= -a--- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 12/6/2023 =A03:06 PM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0148 r= egular-file.txt=0A= la--- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04/6/2025 =A03:44 PM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A00 valid-symlink.txt -> c:\Users\dpchi\test\regular-file.txt=0A= =0A= ## Additional Details=0A= =0A= To create a junction or symlink on Windows you can use these powershell=0A= commands:=0A= =0A= # the following can be done with regular privileges=0A= =A0New-Item -Path new-directory-junction -ItemType Junction -Value "c:\path= \to\target\directory"=0A= =0A= # symlinks always point to files, and creating one requires elevated privil= eges.=0A= =A0New-Item -Path valid-symlink.txt -ItemType SymbolicLink -Value "c:\path\= to\regular-file.txt"=0A= =0A= ## Diagnosis=0A= I think the code that shows symlinks differently is line 810 in ls-lisp.el= =0A= =0A= (if (stringp file-type) ; is a symbolic link=0A= (concat " -> " file-type))=0A= =0A= The file-type var is set from file-attribute-type, which is defined in file= s.el. =0A= That gets its information from dired.c (which I am not looking at), which = =0A= populates a string for (file-attribute-type file-attr) in the case of symbo= lic link,=0A= but does not do the same for Junction. So I think maybe a change in dired.= c =0A= for Windows might be necessary.=0A= =0A= ## Expected/Desired behavior:=0A= =0A= Using dired on Windows, Junction entries show the target of the=0A= Junction, similar to how symbolic links are shown.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2025-02-23 built on=0A= =A0AVALON=0A= Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.26100=0A= System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (v10.0.2009.26100.3476)=0A= =0A= Configured using:=0A= =A0'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation=3Daot= =0A= =A0--without-compress-install --with-tree-sitter CFLAGS=3D-O2=0A= =A0prefix=3D/g/rel/install/emacs-30.1'=0A= =0A= Configured features:=0A= ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP=0A= NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF=0A= TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB=0A= =0A= (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available)=0A= =0A= 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