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This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
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From: rds1944@HIDDEN
To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Subject: 29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size
--text follows this line--
The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.
Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.
Is there a Xresource that controls this?
emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???
Is this a bug?
Thanks
Guido
In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo
version 1.18.2, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2025-03-13 built on
0cbb79ebeb714371b64bef3269323882
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><pre>From: <a href="mailto:rds1944@HIDDEN">rds1944@HIDDEN</a>
To: <a href="mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>
Subject: 29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size
--text follows this line--
The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.
Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.
Is there a Xresource that controls this?
emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???
Is this a bug?
Thanks
Guido<br>
In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo
version 1.18.2, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2025-03-13 built on
0cbb79ebeb714371b64bef3269323882
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101016
System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Forty One)
Configured using:
'configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
--host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix=
--disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr
--bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc
--datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib64
--libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --runstatedir=/run
--sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --with-cairo --with-dbus --with-gif
--with-gpm=no --with-harfbuzz --with-jpeg --with-json --with-modules
--with-native-compilation=aot --with-png --with-rsvg --with-sqlite3
--with-tiff --with-tree-sitter --with-webp --with-x-toolkit=lucid
--with-xft --with-xinput2 --with-xpm
build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
CC=gcc 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects
-fexceptions -g -grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall
-Werror=format-security -Wp,-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3
-Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -fstack-protector-strong
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -march=x86-64
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LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM
LUCID ZLIB
Important settings:
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Dired by name
Minor modes in effect:
server-mode: t
xterm-mouse-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
buffer-read-only: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
indent-tabs-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny rfc822
mml mml-sec epa epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search
mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils
mailheader dired-aux dired dired-loaddefs server derived xt-mouse
time-date comp comp-cstr warnings icons rx cl-extra help-mode smtpmail
auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs cl-loaddefs cl-lib
password-cache json subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile
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iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win
term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register
page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
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threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty
make-network-process native-compile emacs)
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> Cc: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
> From: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:46:43 -0700
>
> The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
> This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
> But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
> barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.
>
> Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
> sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.
>
> Is there a Xresource that controls this?
>
> emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???
>
> Is this a bug?
Po Lu, any comments or suggestions?
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Cc: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
>> From: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:46:43 -0700
>>
>> The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
>> This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
>> But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
>> barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.
>>
>> Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
>> sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.
>>
>> Is there a Xresource that controls this?
>>
>> emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???
>>
>> Is this a bug?
>
> Po Lu, any comments or suggestions?
OP, have you attempted to examine Emacs with editres?
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appres Xcursor emacs output
emacs.dialog*font: helvetica-16
emacs.pane.menubar.background: gray80
emacs.pane.menubar.font: helvetica-20
emacs.pane.menubar.foreground: black
emacs.popup*font: helvetica-16
emacs.background: white
emacs.font: hack 16
emacs.foreground: black
emacs.geometry: 90x30
Xcursor.size: 48
Xcursor.theme: Adwaita
as expected.
editres tree appears normal.
Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that
was OK>
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e>appres Xcursor emacs output</pre><pre><br>emacs.dialog*font: helvetica-16
emacs.pane.menubar.background: gray80
emacs.pane.menubar.font: helvetica-20
emacs.pane.menubar.foreground: black
emacs.popup*font: helvetica-16
emacs.background: white
emacs.font: hack 16
emacs.foreground: black
emacs.geometry: 90x30
Xcursor.size: 48
Xcursor.theme: Adwaita
</pre></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">as expected.</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">editres tree appears normal.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Emacs of earlier releases =
did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div></div>
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> Cc: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
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> appres Xcursor emacs output
>
> emacs.dialog*font: helvetica-16
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> as expected.
>
> editres tree appears normal.
>
> Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK>
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Ping! Po Lu, would you please respond?
> From: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:19:10 -0700
> Cc: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
>
> Forgot to mention that this issue is derived from Fedora releases 42 & 41. I have posted these concerns on
> the RedHat Bugzilla web site. There has been no response to this date.
>
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 4:44 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> > Cc: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
> > From: RDS <rds1944@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700
> >
> > appres Xcursor emacs output
> >
> > emacs.dialog*font: helvetica-16
> > emacs.pane.menubar.background: gray80
> > emacs.pane.menubar.font: helvetica-20
> > emacs.pane.menubar.foreground: black
> > emacs.popup*font: helvetica-16
> > emacs.background: white
> > emacs.font: hack 16
> > emacs.foreground: black
> > emacs.geometry: 90x30
> > Xcursor.size: 48
> > Xcursor.theme: Adwaita
> >
> > as expected.
> >
> > editres tree appears normal.
> >
> > Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK>
>
> Po Lu, any further ideas or suggestions?
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