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To reproduce with emacs -Q

M-x man RET ls RET

The man buffer shows

sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character range




In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.4.0, NS
 appkit-2575.50 Version 15.4.1 (Build 24E263)) of 2025-04-20 built on
 pro2
Repository revision: 6fb2a4691f4d53473c0a326d3a6c23df9008b6e8
Repository branch: master
System Description:  macOS 15.4.1

Configured using:
 'configure --cache-file
 /var/folders/1d/k_6t25f94sl83szqbf8gpkrh0000gn/T//config.cache.master
 --enable-checking=yes --with-native-compilation=no CC=clang
 'CFLAGS=-Wgnu-imaginary-constant -Wunused-result -g -g -O0 -F
 /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks
 -Wno-ignored-attributes -Wno-flag-enum -Wno-missing-method-return-type
 -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-strict-prototypes -Wno-availability
 -Wno-nullability-completeness''

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ACL DBUS GLIB GNUTLS LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG
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> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:27:44 +0200
> 
> To reproduce with emacs -Q
> 
> M-x man RET ls RET
> 
> The man buffer shows
> 
> sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character range

Micheal, that's your addition.  Are these octal escapes not portable
enough?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Gerd,

>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:27:44 +0200
>>=20
>> To reproduce with emacs -Q
>>=20
>> M-x man RET ls RET
>>=20
>> The man buffer shows
>>=20
>> sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character range
>
> Micheal, that's your addition.  Are these octal escapes not portable
> enough?

Don't know. It was "-e '/^[\001-\032][\001-\032]*$/d'" before. I've
changed it due to problems with remote man pages, see the comment above.

This is macOS, isn't it? What does the following shell command show?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
# sed -e '/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\o032]*$/d' /dev/null
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If it fails, does the following work?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
# sed -e '/^[\001-\032][\001-\032]*$/d' /dev/null
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Does 'sed --version' return something useful? Do you know which sed
version it is, otherwise?

Best regards, Michael.




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Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes:

Frohe Ostern!

> This is macOS, isn't it? What does the following shell command show?

Right, it's macOS.
>
> # sed -e '/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\o032]*$/d' /dev/null
>

$ /usr/bin/sed -e '/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\o032]*$/d' /dev/null
sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character rangeThat gives 

(I've installed the GNU sed package "gsed" for now, as a workaround.
That's why I invoke /usr/bin/sed.

> If it fails, does the following work?
>
> # sed -e '/^[\001-\032][\001-\032]*$/d' /dev/null

/usr/bin/sed -e '/^[\001-\032][\001-\032]*$/d' /dev/null
sed: 1: "/^[\001-\032][\001-\032 ...": RE error: invalid character range
>
> Does 'sed --version' return something useful? Do you know which sed
> version it is, otherwise?

It doesn't have a --version. The man page says

AUTHORS
     Diomidis D. Spinellis <dds@HIDDEN>

so I guess it's the FreeBSD one.




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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Gerd,

> Frohe Ostern!

Naja, fast vorbei. Trotzdem auch fuer Dich viele Ostereier!

>> If it fails, does the following work?
>>
>> # sed -e '/^[\001-\032][\001-\032]*$/d' /dev/null
>
> /usr/bin/sed -e '/^[\001-\032][\001-\032]*$/d' /dev/null
> sed: 1: "/^[\001-\032][\001-\032 ...": RE error: invalid character range

So it isn't due to my change. GNU sed is required for this expression
anyway.

I could check whether GNU sed is in game. But I don't know what to do in
case it isn't: don't use this regexp silently? Or use something else?
What works for BSD sed?

>> Does 'sed --version' return something useful? Do you know which sed
>> version it is, otherwise?
>
> It doesn't have a --version. The man page says
>
> AUTHORS
>      Diomidis D. Spinellis <dds@HIDDEN>
>
> so I guess it's the FreeBSD one.

I see. Does of the following work with BSD sed?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
# sed -e '/^[[:cntrl:]][[:cntrl:]]*$/d' /dev/null
# sed -e '/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o0001-\\o0032]*$/d' /dev/null
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Best regards, Michael.




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Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes:

> I see. Does of the following work with BSD sed?
>
> # sed -e '/^[[:cntrl:]][[:cntrl:]]*$/d' /dev/null
> # sed -e '/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o0001-\\o0032]*$/d' /dev/null

Neither prints an error in the shell.

I then

1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
lisp/man.el | 2 +-

modified   lisp/man.el
@@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ Man-init-defvars
 	       "")
              ;; Use octal numbers.  Otherwise, \032 (Ctrl-Z) would
              ;; suspend remote connections.
-	     "-e '/^[\\o001-\\o032][\\o001-\\o032]*$/d'"
+	     "-e '/^[[:cntrl:]][[:cntrl:]]*$/d'"
 	     "-e '/\e[789]/s///g'"
 	     "-e '/Reformatting page.  Wait/d'"
 	     "-e '/Reformatting entry.  Wait/d'"

built and M-x man in emacs -Q, and that works (with gsed uninstalled).
Didn't try the other one, but I could if you want me to.





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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Gerd,

> I then
>
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> lisp/man.el | 2 +-
>
> modified   lisp/man.el
> @@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ Man-init-defvars
>  	       "")
>               ;; Use octal numbers.  Otherwise, \032 (Ctrl-Z) would
>               ;; suspend remote connections.
> -	     "-e '/^[\\o001-\\o032][\\o001-\\o032]*$/d'"
> +	     "-e '/^[[:cntrl:]][[:cntrl:]]*$/d'"
>  	     "-e '/\e[789]/s///g'"
>  	     "-e '/Reformatting page.  Wait/d'"
>  	     "-e '/Reformatting entry.  Wait/d'"
>
> built and M-x man in emacs -Q, and that works (with gsed uninstalled).

Great!

> Didn't try the other one, but I could if you want me to.

Yes, please try. [[:cntrl:]] is equal to [\\o0000-\\o0037]. Much
more than [\\o0001-\\o0032], so I'd prefer the latter.

Best regards, Michael.




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Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes:

> Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> Hi Gerd,
>
>> I then
>>
>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> lisp/man.el | 2 +-
>>
>> modified   lisp/man.el
>> @@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ Man-init-defvars
>>  	       "")
>>               ;; Use octal numbers.  Otherwise, \032 (Ctrl-Z) would
>>               ;; suspend remote connections.
>> -	     "-e '/^[\\o001-\\o032][\\o001-\\o032]*$/d'"
>> +	     "-e '/^[[:cntrl:]][[:cntrl:]]*$/d'"
>>  	     "-e '/\e[789]/s///g'"
>>  	     "-e '/Reformatting page.  Wait/d'"
>>  	     "-e '/Reformatting entry.  Wait/d'"
>>
>> built and M-x man in emacs -Q, and that works (with gsed uninstalled).
>
> Great!
>
>> Didn't try the other one, but I could if you want me to.
>
> Yes, please try. [[:cntrl:]] is equal to [\\o0000-\\o0037]. Much
> more than [\\o0001-\\o0032], so I'd prefer the latter.

The second one doesn't work. It gives the error again in M-x man. Also
in the shell

/Users/gerd/emacs/github/cl-packages % sed -e '/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o0001-=
\\o0032]*$/d' /dev/null
sed: 1: "/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o ...": RE error: invalid character range

I guess I had gsed still installed when I tried that in zsh, and forgot
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To reproduce with emacs -Q

M-x man RET ls RET

The man buffer shows

sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character range




In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.4.0, NS
 appkit-2575.50 Version 15.4.1 (Build 24E263)) of 2025-04-20 built on
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Repository revision: 6fb2a4691f4d53473c0a326d3a6c23df9008b6e8
Repository branch: master
System Description:  macOS 15.4.1

Configured using:
 'configure --cache-file
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 --enable-checking=yes --with-native-compilation=no CC=clang
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 -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-strict-prototypes -Wno-availability
 -Wno-nullability-completeness''

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Version: 31.1

Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Gerd,

>> Yes, please try. [[:cntrl:]] is equal to [\\o0000-\\o0037]. Much
>> more than [\\o0001-\\o0032], so I'd prefer the latter.
>
> The second one doesn't work. It gives the error again in M-x man. Also
> in the shell
>
> /Users/gerd/emacs/github/cl-packages % sed -e '/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o000=
1-\\o0032]*$/d' /dev/null
> sed: 1: "/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o ...": RE error: invalid character range
>
> I guess I had gsed still installed when I tried that in zsh, and forgot
> to add the /usr/bin/.

Thanks for the check. So I've pushed a patch using [:cntrl:] to
master. Closing the bug.

Best regards, Michael.


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#77944: 31.0.50; M-x man on macOS fails with error

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Version: 31.1

Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Gerd,

>> Yes, please try. [[:cntrl:]] is equal to [\\o0000-\\o0037]. Much
>> more than [\\o0001-\\o0032], so I'd prefer the latter.
>
> The second one doesn't work. It gives the error again in M-x man. Also
> in the shell
>
> /Users/gerd/emacs/github/cl-packages % sed -e '/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o000=
1-\\o0032]*$/d' /dev/null
> sed: 1: "/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o ...": RE error: invalid character range
>
> I guess I had gsed still installed when I tried that in zsh, and forgot
> to add the /usr/bin/.

Thanks for the check. So I've pushed a patch using [:cntrl:] to
master. Closing the bug.

Best regards, Michael.


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To reproduce with emacs -Q

M-x man RET ls RET

The man buffer shows

sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character range




In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.4.0, NS
 appkit-2575.50 Version 15.4.1 (Build 24E263)) of 2025-04-20 built on
 pro2
Repository revision: 6fb2a4691f4d53473c0a326d3a6c23df9008b6e8
Repository branch: master
System Description:  macOS 15.4.1

Configured using:
 'configure --cache-file
 /var/folders/1d/k_6t25f94sl83szqbf8gpkrh0000gn/T//config.cache.master
 --enable-checking=yes --with-native-compilation=no CC=clang
 'CFLAGS=-Wgnu-imaginary-constant -Wunused-result -g -g -O0 -F
 /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks
 -Wno-ignored-attributes -Wno-flag-enum -Wno-missing-method-return-type
 -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-strict-prototypes -Wno-availability
 -Wno-nullability-completeness''

Configured features:
ACL DBUS GLIB GNUTLS LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG
RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB



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Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes:

> Version: 31.1
>
> Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> Hi Gerd,
>
>>> Yes, please try. [[:cntrl:]] is equal to [\\o0000-\\o0037]. Much
>>> more than [\\o0001-\\o0032], so I'd prefer the latter.
>>
>> The second one doesn't work. It gives the error again in M-x man. Also
>> in the shell
>>
>> /Users/gerd/emacs/github/cl-packages % sed -e '/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o00=
01-\\o0032]*$/d' /dev/null
>> sed: 1: "/^[\\o0001-\\o0032][\\o ...": RE error: invalid character range
>>
>> I guess I had gsed still installed when I tried that in zsh, and forgot
>> to add the /usr/bin/.
>
> Thanks for the check. So I've pushed a patch using [:cntrl:] to
> master. Closing the bug.
>
> Best regards, Michael.

Thanks for the quick fix!




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(Sorry for duplicate e-mail for some, but it seems that my previous attempt has failed.)

I can see the same issue on 30.1.50 on macOS as well, (built from:
https://github.com/jdtsmith/emacs-mac/commit/4caf8199ea11305ce5f6ca0a380cf18d200d5039).
That is, in emacs -Q

M-x man RET ls RET

yields a man buffer that shows:

sed: 1: "/^[\o001-\o032][\o001-\ ...": RE error: invalid character range

A quick check with:

M-x find-library RET man RET

shows that the line with

"-e '/^[\\o001-\\o032][\\o001-\\o032]*$/d'"

is there as well.  The same line is also present in
8881dca81c95bac1977aa2c924be173382444c4a (tip of branch emacs-30).


I can see the fix (fc5e905dc90e21b1a381bde42e22c06f45c17e16) is contained in
branch master, but it's not in branch emacs-30 yet.  Does it mean it's not
planned to be included in Emacs-30.2 (or Emacs-30.3)?

Cheers,
PK





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