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Are you still interested in installing this? If so, could you > please post an updated patch? > I do. I will. Been finding and fixing (many) bugs in vtable of late. --0000000000003089520635531598 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 4:11=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">Ping!=C2=A0 Are you still interested in installing this?=C2=A0 I= f so, could you<br> please post an updated patch?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"= gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I do. I will. 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Ping! Are you still interested in installing this? If so, could you
please post an updated patch?
> Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2025 11:31:05 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
>
> > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400
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> > * lisp/faces.el (face-all-attributes): Add inherit argument and
> ^^^^^^^
> Please quote "inherit 'like this'.
>
> > +@code{set-face-attribute}; see below. The optional argument
> > +@var{inherit} has the same definition as in @code{face-attribute}, which
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> "Meaning", not "definition". Also, "which see" is redundant here,
> since face-attribute was described just above this function in the
> manual.
>
> > +see. This can aid understanding face definitions.
>
> I'd either drop the last sentence, or say instead something like
>
> This is useful when you want the face attributes to be absolute and
> not @code{unspecified}.
>
> > ++++
> > +*** 'face-all-attributes' now accepts an optional inherit argument.
>
> Please quote "inherit" here.
>
> > +This will resolve all attributes.
>
> This is inaccurate. I'd suggest to remove this sentence, since the
> rest of the NEWS entry describes what it does more accurately.
>
> > 'inherit' has the same meaning as
> > +'face-attribute', which already takes this argument for a single
>
> "same meaning as the same argument to 'face-attribute'"
>
> Thanks.
>
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> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN>
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> * lisp/faces.el (face-all-attributes): Add inherit argument and
^^^^^^^
Please quote "inherit 'like this'.
> +@code{set-face-attribute}; see below. The optional argument
> +@var{inherit} has the same definition as in @code{face-attribute}, which
^^^^^^^^^^
"Meaning", not "definition". Also, "which see" is redundant here,
since face-attribute was described just above this function in the
manual.
> +see. This can aid understanding face definitions.
I'd either drop the last sentence, or say instead something like
This is useful when you want the face attributes to be absolute and
not @code{unspecified}.
> ++++
> +*** 'face-all-attributes' now accepts an optional inherit argument.
Please quote "inherit" here.
> +This will resolve all attributes.
This is inaccurate. I'd suggest to remove this sentence, since the
rest of the NEWS entry describes what it does more accurately.
> 'inherit' has the same meaning as
> +'face-attribute', which already takes this argument for a single
"same meaning as the same argument to 'face-attribute'"
Thanks.
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Mon, 21 Apr 2025 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAN+1HbpBXr1=Xwm8e83ossLOQxExJV2EV5M9Bmhmk5iBOdpRvw@HIDDEN> <86fri2647f.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq51ZVm5HeTX-5kB603aGY0qma=p5R81uubDXJMTU1DVA@HIDDEN> <86y0vt4t78.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbqfUy9SWXxcNm0=9NToBrYhM-RwGL3koiRRDz5S7B_YqA@HIDDEN> <86msc94qx6.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbqe-ndmV4fF82bmPRV1uR6mjQ9_0bR0kixSS+UPJv7MEg@HIDDEN> <86cyd54m7o.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbqic1fA_r9HJErUbDhYfC8g1gF5GW9mHPBRnJ+0wM3XuA@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1Hbqic1fA_r9HJErUbDhYfC8g1gF5GW9mHPBRnJ+0wM3XuA@HIDDEN> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 10:52:21 -0400 X-Gm-Features: ATxdqUHv92sIf041K_d-6H6XsvS7hNYmdiJmv708svZbd45D3OYS5GxfBUzjDhs Message-ID: <CAN+1HbqUOiwh3LcKrKmdQEnvSHb9469mBh+KCt5CfZzSn+REHA@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77945: [PATCH] Add optional inherit argument to 'face-all-attributes' To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008f8f0906334b041b" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77945 Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000008f8f0906334b041b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:45=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> w= rote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wro= te: > >> > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> >> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:34:07 -0400 >> > Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> > >> > > Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need? >> > > >> > > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" output. >> > >> > Sorry, I don't understand. describe-face produces a buffer that can >> > be diff'ed, right? >> > >> > I meant "diff" (hence my use of quotes) in the compare two lists >> programmatically sense. >> >> I still don't understand. Lists are not the only data types that can >> be diff'ed. >> >> > The output of >> > 'describe-face' also seems not to have alternatives to enable/disable >> inheritance, not that it helps with >> > programmatic comparisons. >> >> If the 'inherit' attribute is non-nil, describe-face shows a link to >> the inherited face, and you can follow it. >> > > Yes, I understand. I prefer to examine these using *scratch* and/or > programs vs. using the interactive customize-style UI. face-attribute > already takes inherit, and it seems like a natural extension for > face-all-attributes to be in harmony, and with additional programmer > utility. > I enjoy this: (seq-difference (face-all-attributes 'some-face (selected-frame)) (face-all-attributes 'some-face (selected-frame) 'inherit)) --0000000000008f8f0906334b041b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:45=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:s= hipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><d= iv class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2= 04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-= family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On= Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:= eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></d= iv><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma= rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:= 1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN" targe= t=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:34:07 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77945@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need?<= br> >=C2=A0 > <br> >=C2=A0 > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" = output.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Sorry, I don't understand.=C2=A0 describe-face produces a bu= ffer that can<br> >=C2=A0 be diff'ed, right?<br> > <br> > I meant "diff" (hence my use of quotes) in the compare two l= ists programmatically sense.<br> <br> I still don't understand. Lists are not the only data types that can<br= > be diff'ed.<br> <br> > The output of<br> > 'describe-face' also seems not to have alternatives to enable/= disable inheritance, not that it helps with<br> > programmatic comparisons.<br> <br> If the 'inherit' attribute is non-nil, describe-face shows a link t= o<br> the inherited face, and you can follow it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><= div style=3D"font-family:monospace">Yes, I understand.=C2=A0 I prefer to ex= amine these using *scratch* and/or programs vs. using the interactive custo= mize-style UI.=C2=A0 face-attribute already takes inherit, and it seems lik= e a natural extension for face-all-attributes to be in harmony, and with ad= ditional programmer utility.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I enjoy this:</= div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div>= <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">(seq-differenc= e<br>=C2=A0(face-all-attributes 'some-face (selected-frame))<br>=C2=A0(= face-all-attributes 'some-face (selected-frame) 'inherit))<br></div= ></div></div> --0000000000008f8f0906334b041b--
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> > > > > > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" output. > > > > Sorry, I don't understand. describe-face produces a buffer that can > > be diff'ed, right? > > > > I meant "diff" (hence my use of quotes) in the compare two lists > programmatically sense. > > I still don't understand. Lists are not the only data types that can > be diff'ed. > > > The output of > > 'describe-face' also seems not to have alternatives to enable/disable > inheritance, not that it helps with > > programmatic comparisons. > > If the 'inherit' attribute is non-nil, describe-face shows a link to > the inherited face, and you can follow it. > Yes, I understand. I prefer to examine these using *scratch* and/or programs vs. using the interactive customize-style UI. face-attribute already takes inherit, and it seems like a natural extension for face-all-attributes to be in harmony, and with additional programmer utility. --0000000000009e589506334aeb0a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailt= o:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D= "gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:34:07 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77945@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need?<= br> >=C2=A0 > <br> >=C2=A0 > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" = output.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Sorry, I don't understand.=C2=A0 describe-face produces a bu= ffer that can<br> >=C2=A0 be diff'ed, right?<br> > <br> > I meant "diff" (hence my use of quotes) in the compare two l= ists programmatically sense.<br> <br> I still don't understand. Lists are not the only data types that can<br= > be diff'ed.<br> <br> > The output of<br> > 'describe-face' also seems not to have alternatives to enable/= disable inheritance, not that it helps with<br> > programmatic comparisons.<br> <br> If the 'inherit' attribute is non-nil, describe-face shows a link t= o<br> the inherited face, and you can follow it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Yes, I understa= nd.=C2=A0 I prefer to examine these using *scratch* and/or programs vs. usi= ng the interactive customize-style UI.=C2=A0 face-attribute already takes i= nherit, and it seems like a natural extension for face-all-attributes to be= in harmony, and with additional programmer utility.</div></div></div> --0000000000009e589506334aeb0a--
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 8:53=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:11:00 -0400 > > Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 8:04=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wr= ote: > > > > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > > > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400 > > > Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > Please describe the situations where you need this, and what is > > > missing if the inherited attributes are not shown. > > > > > > > It's not clear to me if this warrants news. > > > > > > It does. Moreover, the function's documentation in the ELisp manua= l > > > needs to be updated. > > > > > > I've found this useful when trying to understand face definitions an= d > when inheritance is out of order > > vs. > > > intended. > > > > Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need? > > > > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" output. > > Sorry, I don't understand. describe-face produces a buffer that can > be diff'ed, right? > I meant "diff" (hence my use of quotes) in the compare two lists programmatically sense. The output of 'describe-face' also seems not to have alternatives to enable/disable inheritance, not that it helps with programmatic comparisons. --000000000000d07307063349ecf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 8:53=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:11:00 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77945@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 8:04=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"m= ailto:eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 > From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> >=C2=A0 > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400<br> >=C2=A0 > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_bla= nk">77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a><br> >=C2=A0 > <br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 Please describe the situations where you need this, a= nd what is<br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 missing if the inherited attributes are not shown.<br= > >=C2=A0 > <br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 > It's not clear to me if this warrants news.<= br> >=C2=A0 > <br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 It does.=C2=A0 Moreover, the function's documenta= tion in the ELisp manual<br> >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 needs to be updated.<br> >=C2=A0 > <br> >=C2=A0 > I've found this useful when trying to understand face d= efinitions and when inheritance is out of order<br> >=C2=A0 vs.<br> >=C2=A0 > intended.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need?<br> > <br> > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" output.<br> <br> Sorry, I don't understand.=C2=A0 describe-face produces a buffer that c= an<br> be diff'ed, right?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d= efault" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I meant "diff" (hence my = use of quotes) in the compare two lists programmatically sense.=C2=A0 The o= utput of 'describe-face' also seems not to have alternatives to ena= ble/disable inheritance, not that it helps with programmatic comparisons.</= div></div></div> --000000000000d07307063349ecf6--
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Moreover, the function's documentation in the ELisp manual > > needs to be updated. > > > > I've found this useful when trying to understand face definitions and > when inheritance is out of order vs. > > intended. > > Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need? > I wanted a programmatic API where I could "diff" output. --0000000000008c2d9c063348c3c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 8:04=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400<br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">77945@d= ebbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 Please describe the situations where you need this, and what is<= br> >=C2=A0 missing if the inherited attributes are not shown.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 > It's not clear to me if this warrants news.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 It does.=C2=A0 Moreover, the function's documentation in the= ELisp manual<br> >=C2=A0 needs to be updated.<br> > <br> > I've found this useful when trying to understand face definitions = and when inheritance is out of order vs.<br> > intended.<br> <br> Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need?<br></blockquote><div><= br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I wan= ted a programmatic=C2=A0API where I could "diff" output.</div></d= iv></div> --0000000000008c2d9c063348c3c7--
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Full text available.Received: (at 77945) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2025 12:04:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 21 08:04:09 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33107 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u6pse-0007PB-PC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:04:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u6psb-0007OK-V5 for 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:04:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u6psW-0000o6-IN; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:04:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=qiCELA0GAAjsvr8Zf6nivq0OiC28ChtW46I5iyMwlbw=; b=g5vwwqQ+qIEc SWQlGMJzJYrYKPfhVRHnLPJWzt4woL249Xf8QU5bHyWY4KiVNtJKYAH6qUR2wq2jg9YWKyS9U0rLy dyMuuFUeiSvBtQM7PialkFjuPHJlXjCZwVY5DtkXIJY/nBFPUFOylMbykycA6jMOBqeO0VZB8ND7J MNbS7C2r/LMIOi1OgAcUTyxEu+D0BMRJVsmEz6OSHCX1SoRwUfb9L6ijORB/B4AcR4HIQVsvF4Clo G+BDT7YhkhWvXzAOZLfWOKCF7HLYckaHqUbJdpuGEEdfLeQi79q1/f1qQ7K/4T9g/QbUHA+ZlNA6o Z1qWsH6DtLtMlcZ0PdCVYA==; Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:03:55 +0300 Message-Id: <86y0vt4t78.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1Hbq51ZVm5HeTX-5kB603aGY0qma=p5R81uubDXJMTU1DVA@HIDDEN> (message from Ship Mints on Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#77945: [PATCH] Add optional inherit argument to 'face-all-attributes' References: <CAN+1HbpBXr1=Xwm8e83ossLOQxExJV2EV5M9Bmhmk5iBOdpRvw@HIDDEN> <86fri2647f.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq51ZVm5HeTX-5kB603aGY0qma=p5R81uubDXJMTU1DVA@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77945 Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400 > Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Please describe the situations where you need this, and what is > missing if the inherited attributes are not shown. > > > It's not clear to me if this warrants news. > > It does. Moreover, the function's documentation in the ELisp manual > needs to be updated. > > I've found this useful when trying to understand face definitions and when inheritance is out of order vs. > intended. Doesn't describe-face already satisfy that need?
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I find this quite convenient to examine a fac= e > definition and its merged, effective > > definition. > > Please describe the situations where you need this, and what is > missing if the inherited attributes are not shown. > > > It's not clear to me if this warrants news. > > It does. Moreover, the function's documentation in the ELisp manual > needs to be updated. > I've found this useful when trying to understand face definitions and when inheritance is out of order vs. intended. Updated patch attached. -Stephane --000000000000d9489d06333cacba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 3:08=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto= :eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">> From: Ship Mints <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:15:13 -0400<br> > <br> > The subject says it all.=C2=A0 I find this quite convenient to examine= a face definition and its merged, effective<br> > definition.<br> <br> Please describe the situations where you need this, and what is<br> missing if the inherited attributes are not shown.<br> <br> > It's not clear to me if this warrants news.<br> <br> It does.=C2=A0 Moreover, the function's documentation in the ELisp manu= al<br> needs to be updated.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def= ault" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I've found this useful when tryin= g to understand face definitions and when inheritance=C2=A0is out of order = vs. intended.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:monospace">Updated patch attached.</div><div class=3D"gmail= _default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def= ault" style=3D"font-family:monospace">-Stephane</div><br></div></div></div> --000000000000d9489d06333cacba-- --000000000000d9489f06333cacbc Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="0001-Add-optional-inherit-argument-to-face-all-attributes.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-Add-optional-inherit-argument-to-face-all-attributes.patch" 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Full text available.Received: (at 77945) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2025 19:08:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 20 15:08:48 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53630 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u6a24-00077d-0Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:08:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u6a20-00077B-Rv for 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:08:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u6a1v-0005Sg-7K; Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:08:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ikCBMmPfREGma/UrVWaE+KmffR9FYtzMO4DYp4LAroM=; b=RgUcMVwCrK/T EElhop6yc2SxROxdgth+LTzflGG6/C+mDiIMf7qhFC2Gz7urIfSeS6dQkGVhLUdCsH1foQGp/PtWF xpQA5/l7C+lt6QBQPuwCvt8mrVLm3y53aMGwpFrLpM9bMWxXVVZ0J9gMbP4ZMdqtrdNu5NOZF8Jt7 n9HWxVTpCRa6tIiWJ/h/YfKqj9uIRbuPic243pK4xG3B+0WaLVADp7Rz4FYag5OTXMPSHMxb/lu/9 JGId9feJ/pgBCphKfFzWZkZi0hJs9LmnWaz5xpzJfamsY2SVQVhBVr+Fu36829no200aTvDEspFFj gXZgPv5oSsce9j17RLeAIA==; Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 22:08:36 +0300 Message-Id: <86fri2647f.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAN+1HbpBXr1=Xwm8e83ossLOQxExJV2EV5M9Bmhmk5iBOdpRvw@HIDDEN> (message from Ship Mints on Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:15:13 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#77945: [PATCH] Add optional inherit argument to 'face-all-attributes' References: <CAN+1HbpBXr1=Xwm8e83ossLOQxExJV2EV5M9Bmhmk5iBOdpRvw@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77945 Cc: 77945 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:15:13 -0400 > > The subject says it all. I find this quite convenient to examine a face definition and its merged, effective > definition. Please describe the situations where you need this, and what is missing if the inherited attributes are not shown. > It's not clear to me if this warrants news. It does. Moreover, the function's documentation in the ELisp manual needs to be updated. Thanks.
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boundary="000000000000ba372c063338e55b" --000000000000ba372c063338e55b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The subject says it all. I find this quite convenient to examine a face definition and its merged, effective definition. It's not clear to me if this warrants news. -Stephane --000000000000ba372c063338e55b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">The subject says it all.=C2=A0 I find this quite=C2=A0convenient to exam= ine a face definition and its merged, effective definition.</div><div class= =3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"= gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">It's not clear to me if = this warrants news.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:= monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mono= space">-Stephane</div></div> --000000000000ba372c063338e55b-- --000000000000ba372e063338e55d Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="0001-Add-optional-inherit-argument-to-face-all-attributes.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-Add-optional-inherit-argument-to-face-all-attributes.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <f_m9pwq0n00> X-Attachment-Id: f_m9pwq0n00 RnJvbSA4NmQ1MDVjOTM1MDdmZGU5YzJjMTEwNGY0MTI2MmFiZWQ3YzAxYjVkIE1vbiBTZXAgMTcg MDA6MDA6MDAgMjAwMQpGcm9tOiBzaGlwbWludHMgPHNoaXBtaW50c0BnbWFpbC5jb20+CkRhdGU6 IFN1biwgMjAgQXByIDIwMjUgMTM6MDk6MzUgLTA0MDAKU3ViamVjdDogW1BBVENIXSBBZGQgb3B0 aW9uYWwgaW5oZXJpdCBhcmd1bWVudCB0byAnZmFjZS1hbGwtYXR0cmlidXRlcycKCiogbGlzcC9m YWNlcy5lbCAoZmFjZS1hbGwtYXR0cmlidXRlcyk6IEFkZCBpbmhlcml0IGFyZ3VtZW50IGFuZApw YXNzIHRvICdmYWNlLWF0dHJpYnV0ZScuCi0tLQogbGlzcC9mYWNlcy5lbCB8IDEyICsrKysrKy0t LS0tLQogMSBmaWxlIGNoYW5nZWQsIDYgaW5zZXJ0aW9ucygrKSwgNiBkZWxldGlvbnMoLSkKCmRp ZmYgLS1naXQgYS9saXNwL2ZhY2VzLmVsIGIvbGlzcC9mYWNlcy5lbAppbmRleCBkYmMwYTJlMDRm Ni4uMjdjMDdkNGE2NzYgMTAwNjQ0Ci0tLSBhL2xpc3AvZmFjZXMuZWwKKysrIGIvbGlzcC9mYWNl cy5lbApAQCAtNDQyLDE1ICs0NDIsMTUgQEAgZmFjZS1uYW1lCiAgIChzeW1ib2wtbmFtZSAoY2hl Y2stZmFjZSBmYWNlKSkpCiAKIAotKGRlZnVuIGZhY2UtYWxsLWF0dHJpYnV0ZXMgKGZhY2UgJm9w dGlvbmFsIGZyYW1lKQorKGRlZnVuIGZhY2UtYWxsLWF0dHJpYnV0ZXMgKGZhY2UgJm9wdGlvbmFs IGZyYW1lIGluaGVyaXQpCiAgICJSZXR1cm4gYW4gYWxpc3Qgc3RhdGluZyB0aGUgYXR0cmlidXRl cyBvZiBGQUNFLgotRWFjaCBlbGVtZW50IG9mIHRoZSByZXN1bHQgaGFzIHRoZSBmb3JtIChBVFRS LU5BTUUgLiBBVFRSLVZBTFVFKS4KLUlmIEZSQU1FIGlzIG9taXR0ZWQgb3IgbmlsIHRoZSB2YWx1 ZSBkZXNjcmliZXMgdGhlIGRlZmF1bHQgYXR0cmlidXRlcywKLWJ1dCBpZiB5b3Ugc3BlY2lmeSBG UkFNRSwgdGhlIHZhbHVlIGRlc2NyaWJlcyB0aGUgYXR0cmlidXRlcwotb2YgRkFDRSBvbiBGUkFN RS4iCitFYWNoIGVsZW1lbnQgb2YgdGhlIHJlc3VsdCBoYXMgdGhlIGZvcm0gKEFUVFItTkFNRSAu IEFUVFItVkFMVUUpLiAgSWYKK0ZSQU1FIGlzIG9taXR0ZWQgb3IgbmlsIHRoZSB2YWx1ZSBkZXNj cmliZXMgdGhlIGRlZmF1bHQgYXR0cmlidXRlcywgYnV0CitpZiB5b3Ugc3BlY2lmeSBGUkFNRSwg dGhlIHZhbHVlIGRlc2NyaWJlcyB0aGUgYXR0cmlidXRlcyBvZiBGQUNFIG9uCitGUkFNRS4gIElO SEVSSVQgaGFzIHRoZSBzYW1lIG1lYW5pbmcgYXMgaW4gYGZhY2UtYXR0cmlidXRlJywgd2hpY2gg c2VlLiIKICAgKG1hcGNhciAobGFtYmRhIChwYWlyKQogCSAgICAobGV0ICgoYXR0ciAoY2FyIHBh aXIpKSkKLQkgICAgICAoY29ucyBhdHRyIChmYWNlLWF0dHJpYnV0ZSBmYWNlIGF0dHIgKG9yIGZy YW1lIHQpKSkpKQorCSAgICAgIChjb25zIGF0dHIgKGZhY2UtYXR0cmlidXRlIGZhY2UgYXR0ciAo b3IgZnJhbWUgdCkgaW5oZXJpdCkpKSkKICAgCSAgZmFjZS1hdHRyaWJ1dGUtbmFtZS1hbGlzdCkp CiAKIChkZWZ1biBmYWNlLWF0dHJpYnV0ZSAoZmFjZSBhdHRyaWJ1dGUgJm9wdGlvbmFsIGZyYW1l IGluaGVyaXQpCi0tIAoyLjQ3LjEKCg== --000000000000ba372e063338e55d--
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