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Hi Eli,=C2=A0
yes I did, but again:
@gnu/emacs:26.3 was stated to be the version by emacs itself when creating =
the initial mail with=C2=A0M-x report-emacs-bug
and additionally:
GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30)=C2=A0of=
2020-06-02
regards=C2=A0Niclas, Sweden
Den torsdag 22 maj 2025 kl. 10:11:28 CEST, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>=
skrev: =20
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[Please use Reply All to reply, to keep everyone CC'ed.]
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 07:07:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Niclas Olsson <olsson_lund@HIDDEN>
>=20
> Hi Eli,=20
>=20
> sorry for not responding earlier, your email ended up in SPAM folder whic=
h I missed.
>=20
> I actually did reply already on the 28th of april and it was CC:ed to:
> 78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.
>=20
> If you cant see this reply which starts with: @Jury: you're excused...
> then write me again and I'll forward the reply again.
Manuel asked you to tell more about which Emacs version yo9u are
using:
> You'd have to tell us more about which emacs version you're using.
> Those variables were introduced by commit
> 749ba35bf5e0974384550a0763fd27f08db0678c on Feb 1 2022.
>=20
> So this probably works since version 28.2.
I don't think you answered that question.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi Eli, </div><div dir=
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lse">yes I did, but again:<br><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-famil=
y: courier new, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; ou=
tline: none !important;">@gnu/emacs:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fa=
mily: courier new, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;=
outline: none !important;">26.3 was stated to be the version by emacs itse=
lf when creating the initial mail with </div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D=
"font-family: courier new, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 16px; outline: none !important;">M-x report-emacs-bug</div></div><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">and additionally:<br><br><div><di=
v>GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30)</div>=
<div> of 2020-06-02</div></div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">regards </=
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Den torsdag 22 maj 2025 kl. 10:11:28 CEST, Eli Zare=
tskii <eliz@HIDDEN> skrev:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">[Please use Reply All to reply, to ke=
ep everyone CC'ed.]<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">> Date: Thu, 22=
May 2025 07:07:52 +0000 (UTC)<br clear=3D"none">> From: Niclas Olsson &=
lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:olsson_lund@HIDDEN" href=3D"mailt=
o:olsson_lund@HIDDEN">olsson_lund@HIDDEN</a>><br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; <br clear=3D"none">> Hi Eli, <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"non=
e">> sorry for not responding earlier, your email ended up in SPAM folde=
r which I missed.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> I actually=
did reply already on the 28th of april and it was CC:ed to:<br clear=3D"no=
ne">> <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org." href=
=3D"mailto:78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.">78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.</a><br clear=3D"n=
one">> <br clear=3D"none">> If you cant see this reply which starts w=
ith: @Jury: you're excused...<br clear=3D"none">> then write me again an=
d I'll forward the reply again.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Manuel=
asked you to tell more about which Emacs version yo9u are<br clear=3D"none=
">using:<div class=3D"yqt6497740984" id=3D"yqtfd31921"><br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">> You'd have to tell us more about which emacs version=
you're using.<br clear=3D"none">> Those variables were introduced by co=
mmit<br clear=3D"none">> 749ba35bf5e0974384550a0763fd27f08db0678c on Feb=
1 2022.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> So this probably wo=
rks since version 28.2.</div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I don't =
think you answered that question.<div class=3D"yqt6497740984" id=3D"yqtfd50=
519"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div>
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Full text available.Received: (at 78038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2025 08:11:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 22 04:11:36 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uI11b-0004kB-Pm for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2025 04:11:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uI11Y-0004jg-8M for 78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2025 04:11:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uI11R-0003F5-TH; Thu, 22 May 2025 04:11:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=D9M+mVRZR64jfUyCRWDqGy9dnNDnMWWBjVSspCttRl0=; b=dk79n3Mv5Nia 3QlSJJlJa7mkuO2mDQshwb+4XGKM/pnqkl+sRQSfEQqvXDu4VFypvfKK4GK819JlRVpCPdD4120i6 uv5LjMh9CshvoycwpfA0QNwr1lhcDp9AIcKqBbcSW2yf2MRBzs25rzbAuHM8eIPow8WCbxNesmIhS RsczvK7j59fv7Qqo8rXyBQdATzM+uHZJR2CKnLrig1Uq6WITqC7RjU8epWKcKzAOjxADADvZEdd5i RbrrM/ZLnsXm1D+FNdm2X1q/rF1DRRdeCJsIQzL869MG69aXppeKqNlM/zTJnvR1fn3m1DMUh+pU3 JrQgkEXAoc312mlAMlCbcw==; Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 11:11:22 +0300 Message-Id: <86cyc16p5h.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Niclas Olsson <olsson_lund@HIDDEN>, Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <2134977012.194113.1747897672644@HIDDEN> (message from Niclas Olsson on Thu, 22 May 2025 07:07:52 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#78038: 26.3; query-replace References: <518360095.1249634.1745487114716.ref@HIDDEN> <518360095.1249634.1745487114716@HIDDEN> <87a585fsgc.fsf@HIDDEN> <163622299.1665753.1745568640143@HIDDEN> <878qno1uc4.fsf@HIDDEN> <86jz6obyyl.fsf@HIDDEN> <2134977012.194113.1747897672644@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78038 Cc: 78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [Please use Reply All to reply, to keep everyone CC'ed.] > Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 07:07:52 +0000 (UTC) > From: Niclas Olsson <olsson_lund@HIDDEN> > > Hi Eli, > > sorry for not responding earlier, your email ended up in SPAM folder which I missed. > > I actually did reply already on the 28th of april and it was CC:ed to: > 78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org. > > If you cant see this reply which starts with: @Jury: you're excused... > then write me again and I'll forward the reply again. Manuel asked you to tell more about which Emacs version yo9u are using: > You'd have to tell us more about which emacs version you're using. > Those variables were introduced by commit > 749ba35bf5e0974384550a0763fd27f08db0678c on Feb 1 2022. > > So this probably works since version 28.2. I don't think you answered that question.
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Hi gnu/emacs
@Juri Linkov: you're excused... Some of us emacs users have paid work to do=
and can't and do not want to constantly ticking up versions on each and ev=
ery tool. If something works then it works. The From->To didn't caught my a=
ttention since I was on an earlier version and/or didn't encounter this par=
ticular situation where it really gives issues.
@gnu/emacs:26.3 was stated to be the version by emacs itself when creating =
the initial mail with=C2=A0M-x report-emacs-bug
No errors shown trying the 2 suggestions makes me belive all was in place i=
n 26.3 as well.
The Redhat8.1 system I work on has:
emacs/26.3(default) <L>=C2=A0 emacs/27.1-1=C2=A0 emacs/28.1=C2=A0 emacs/29.=
4=C2=A0 =C2=A0 emacs/30.1=C2=A0=C2=A0emacs/27.1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0emacs/27.1-2=C2=A0 emacs/29.1=C2=A0 emacs/29.4-1=
=C2=A0=C2=A0
trying any >26.3 gives massive issues with fonts sizes and something I neve=
r encountered with emacs before, many lines with:
Warning (native-compiler): libgccjit.so: error: error invoking gcc driver
and many similar warning/lines but cant copy in here due to company policie=
s.
unfortunately from emacs 27.1 something was changed with font handling and =
I cant use neither of them if I do not fancy 3 times as big fonts as with 2=
6.3...=C2=A0
Again highlighting the root issue, introducing new features, new font handl=
ings, faces etc might=C2=A0and changing plain old behavior always seem to b=
e a good idea but many users were happy with how it worked before and is no=
w forced to spend hours/days to get a newer version to look-and-feel the sa=
me, yes if it is even possible... A simple googling tells how many users di=
sagree with the statement that new features are the best, are wanted or eve=
n needed... Some has already suggest all new features should be disabled by=
default. Regarding the FROM->TO I have a hard time trying to understand wh=
at problem this solved and how often a search-and-replace history is needed=
... but...
/Regards Niclas, Sweden Den fredag 25 april 2025 kl. 18:44:50 CEST, Juri=
Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> skrev: =20
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> PLEASE, PLEASE; PLEASE start putting new behaviors disabled.
> The query-replace (default FROM -> TO) is a major disaster.
Excuse me, but (default FROM -> TO) was added in the year 2004
by commit 6f1df6d9d69a.
> Have been emacs fan since 2004 but...
By lucky coincidence (default FROM -> TO) was added
in the same year 2004.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi gnu/emacs</div><div dir=
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lse">@Juri Linkov: you're excused... Some of us emacs users have paid work =
to do and can't and do not want to constantly ticking up versions on each a=
nd every tool. If something works then it works. The From->To didn't cau=
ght my attention since I was on an earlier version and/or didn't encounter =
this particular situation where it really gives issues.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">@=
gnu/emacs:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">26.3 was stated to b=
e the version by emacs itself when creating the initial mail with </di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">M-x report-emacs-bug</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">No errors shown trying the 2 suggestions makes me belive all was in pl=
ace in 26.3 as well.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The Redhat8.1 system I work on has:<=
br><div><div>emacs/26.3(default) <L> emacs/27.1-1 emacs/2=
8.1 emacs/29.4 emacs/30.1 </div><div>emacs/27=
.1 emacs/27.1-2 =
emacs/29.1 emacs/29.4-1 </div><div><br></div></div>trying=
any >26.3 gives massive issues with fonts sizes and something I never e=
ncountered with emacs before, many lines with:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false"><br><span>Warning (native-compiler): libgccjit.so: error: e=
rror invoking gcc driver</span><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>an=
d many similar warning/lines but cant copy in here due to company policies.=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><br></span></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">unfortunately from emacs 27.1 someth=
ing was changed with font handling and I cant use neither of them if I do n=
ot fancy 3 times as big fonts as with 26.3... </div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Again=
highlighting the root issue, introducing new features, new font handlings,=
faces etc might </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">and chan=
ging plain old behavior always seem to be a good idea but many users were h=
appy with how it worked before and is now forced to spend hours/days to get=
a newer version to look-and-feel the same, yes if it is even possible... A=
simple googling tells how many users disagree with the statement that new =
features are the best, are wanted or even needed... Some has already sugges=
t all new features should be disabled by default. Regarding the FROM->TO=
I have a hard time trying to understand what problem this solved and how o=
ften a search-and-replace history is needed... but...</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">/Re=
gards Niclas, Sweden</div>
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nkov <juri@HIDDEN> skrev:
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<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
=20
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">> PLEASE, PLEASE; PLEASE start put=
ting new behaviors disabled.<br clear=3D"none">> The query-replace (defa=
ult FROM -> TO) is a major disaster.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
">Excuse me, but (default FROM -> TO) was added in the year 2004<br clea=
r=3D"none">by commit 6f1df6d9d69a.<div class=3D"yqt6828286775" id=3D"yqtfd1=
9232"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">> Have been emacs fan since =
2004 but...</div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">By lucky coincidence=
(default FROM -> TO) was added<br clear=3D"none">in the same year 2004.=
<div class=3D"yqt6828286775" id=3D"yqtfd33337"><br clear=3D"none"></div></d=
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Hi gnu/emacs!
Thanks a lot for the quick reply I got.=C2=A0I have tried out both:
(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () ""))
and the=C2=A0
(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () (make-string 0 32)))
Unfortunately the irritating (default FROM -> TO) still shows...I also did =
try to read and follow the code but limited in LISP knowledge=C2=A0and I di=
dn't find anything which I didn't already try.
It is rather strange a simple disable variable was missed to implement.
This show another aspect of the problem with the current and rather strange=
implementation:https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/19844/how-to-canc=
el-the-default-in-replace-string
It is like emacs is leaving the unix way to keep things simple.
/Regards Niclas Olsson, Sweden
Den torsdag 24 april 2025 kl. 18:13:43 CEST, Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu=
-giraud.fr> skrev: =20
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Niclas Olsson via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi gnu/emacs,
[...]
> I have tried all setq on the:
[...]
Hi,
It seems that setting the following does what you want:
(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () ""))
I found this by reading the code since it is not a well documented
custom.=C2=A0 Maybe, we should have one (?)
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi gnu/emacs!</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">Thanks a lot for the quick reply I got. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">I have tried out both:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div>(set=
q query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () ""))</div><div><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">and the </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
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da () (make-string 0 32)))</div></div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">Unfortunately the irritating (default FROM -> TO) still show=
s...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I also did try to read and=
follow the code but limited in LISP knowledge </div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">and I didn't find anything which I didn't already try=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">It is rather strange a simple disable variable was miss=
ed to implement.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This show another aspect of the problem =
with the current and rather strange implementation:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><a href=3D"https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/1=
9844/how-to-cancel-the-default-in-replace-string" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
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he-default-in-replace-string</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It is like emacs is leav=
ing the unix way to keep things simple.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
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U Emacs, the Swiss army knife of<br clear=3D"none">text editors" <<a sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" href=3D"mailto:bug-gnu=
-emacs@HIDDEN">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br clear=3D"none"><br=
clear=3D"none">> Hi gnu/emacs,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">[..=
.]<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yqt4688262064" id=3D"yqtfd19598"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">> I have tried all setq on the:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">[...]<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hi,</div><br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">It seems that setting the following does what you =
want:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">(setq query-replace-read-from-de=
fault (lambda () ""))<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I found this by =
reading the code since it is not a well documented<br clear=3D"none">custom=
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Hi gnu/emacs!
Thanks a lot for the quick reply I got.=C2=A0I have tried out both:
(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () ""))
and the=C2=A0
(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () (make-string 0 32)))
Unfortunately the irritating (default FROM -> TO) still shows...I also did =
try to read and follow the code but limited in LISP knowledge=C2=A0and I di=
dn't find anything which I didn't already try.
It is rather strange a simple disable variable was missed to implement.
This show another aspect of the problem with the current and rather strange=
implementation:https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/19844/how-to-canc=
el-the-default-in-replace-string
It is like emacs is leaving the unix way to keep things simple.
/Regards Niclas Olsson, Sweden
Den torsdag 24 april 2025 kl. 18:13:43 CEST, Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu=
-giraud.fr> skrev: =20
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Niclas Olsson via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi gnu/emacs,
[...]
> I have tried all setq on the:
[...]
Hi,
It seems that setting the following does what you want:
(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () ""))
I found this by reading the code since it is not a well documented
custom.=C2=A0 Maybe, we should have one (?)
--=20
Manuel Giraud
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi gnu/emacs!</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">Thanks a lot for the quick reply I got. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">I have tried out both:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div>(set=
q query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () ""))</div><div><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">and the </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div>(setq query-replace-read-from-default (lamb=
da () (make-string 0 32)))</div></div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">Unfortunately the irritating (default FROM -> TO) still show=
s...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I also did try to read and=
follow the code but limited in LISP knowledge </div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">and I didn't find anything which I didn't already try=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">It is rather strange a simple disable variable was miss=
ed to implement.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This show another aspect of the problem =
with the current and rather strange implementation:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><a href=3D"https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/1=
9844/how-to-cancel-the-default-in-replace-string" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/19844/how-to-cancel-t=
he-default-in-replace-string</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It is like emacs is leav=
ing the unix way to keep things simple.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">/Regards Niclas=
Olsson, Sweden</div><div><br></div>
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Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN> skrev:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Niclas Olsson via "Bug reports for GN=
U Emacs, the Swiss army knife of<br clear=3D"none">text editors" <<a sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" href=3D"mailto:bug-gnu=
-emacs@HIDDEN">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br clear=3D"none"><br=
clear=3D"none">> Hi gnu/emacs,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">[..=
.]<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yqt4688262064" id=3D"yqtfd19598"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">> I have tried all setq on the:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">[...]<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hi,</div><br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">It seems that setting the following does what you =
want:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">(setq query-replace-read-from-de=
fault (lambda () ""))<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I found this by =
reading the code since it is not a well documented<br clear=3D"none">custom=
. Maybe, we should have one (?)<br clear=3D"none">-- <br clear=3D"non=
e">Manuel Giraud<div class=3D"yqt4688262064" id=3D"yqtfd03813"><br clear=3D=
"none"></div></div></div>
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Full text available.Received: (at 78038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2025 09:09:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 25 05:09:08 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47224 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u8F3U-0007Nz-65 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2025 05:09:08 -0400 Received: from ledu-giraud.fr ([51.159.28.247]:6807) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <manuel@HIDDEN>) id 1u8F3Q-0007N6-Pi for 78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2025 05:09:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=ed25519; bh=hXC0YX/G BqzvapeJgCGBWmjY9p77GCwDLsS9c0oQ9ls=; h=date:references:in-reply-to: subject:cc:to:from; d=ledu-giraud.fr; b=D6RlBKq6AkMghQaitUr/NdO9dWZ2Ch XS5EFkbvrdb6cCBP3lL2vqhqw0nbbxq/TIbwCGgft0QRBmKivqsSPJBw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=rsa; bh=hXC0YX/GBqzvapeJ gCGBWmjY9p77GCwDLsS9c0oQ9ls=; h=date:references:in-reply-to:subject: cc:to:from; d=ledu-giraud.fr; b=M0cywV3U1n/Jv2XHvWLtxUb3D/MqC6+O2GYidu rpjgezZyVFYfPihZCgQs6l4qJSk6MR32Yl6REqkRizG0Ez1BHm8ZczKckify3NATxfZ8ib zwad4hrAXBQN2f2muaYeq7t6hKY8pyd+bknuSvxbj8iqumIEVL7gjqSQ70sU7B+vQWLDY3 kBqyOQuqFfdw96DtZSbWP2ecoY94ZI9SHIQVPcBvkT375+dYCUCuFfiLuzpa6OrkmQFz34 kM2MQkUB/qbLAMvY9wgYqq2TLSHH3/NzUIVJmWuTS+/EiL4qAKbXFuAPQK4X8yT1yNvopC h8PyFYJ5euo/nOSZY/g1+DXg== Received: from computer (<unknown> [10.1.1.1]) by ledu-giraud.fr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id aeda5fa9 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 25 Apr 2025 11:09:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN> To: Niclas Olsson <olsson_lund@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#78038: 26.3; query-replace In-Reply-To: <163622299.1665753.1745568640143@HIDDEN> References: <518360095.1249634.1745487114716.ref@HIDDEN> <518360095.1249634.1745487114716@HIDDEN> <87a585fsgc.fsf@HIDDEN> <163622299.1665753.1745568640143@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 11:08:59 +0200 Message-ID: <878qno1uc4.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78038 Cc: "Niclas Olsson via \"Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>, Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>, 78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <78038 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Niclas Olsson <olsson_lund@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi gnu/emacs! > Thanks a lot for the quick reply I got.=C2=A0I have tried out both: > (setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () "")) > and the=C2=A0 > (setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () (make-string 0 32))) > Unfortunately the irritating (default FROM -> TO) still shows...I also > did try to read and follow the code but limited in LISP knowledge=C2=A0and > I didn't find anything which I didn't already try. You'd have to tell us more about which emacs version you're using. Those variables were introduced by commit 749ba35bf5e0974384550a0763fd27f08db0678c on Feb 1 2022. So this probably works since version 28.2. --=20 Manuel Giraud
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#78038; Package emacs.
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Have you ever imagined to try out a very long FROM string > and then want to do another search/replace after??? [...] > I have tried all setq on the: > > query-replace-defaults > query-replace-from-history-variable > query-replace-from-to-separator > query-replace-help > query-replace-highlight > query-replace-history > query-replace-interactive > query-replace-lazy-highlight > query-replace-map > query-replace-show-replacement > query-replace-skip-read-only > query-replace-to-history-variable > > but I simply cant get rid of the very annoying, totally unnecessary: > (default FROM -> TO). [...] Making query-replace-read-from-default return the empty string seems to work; try adding this to your ~/.emacs file: (setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () (make-string 0 32))) Steve Berman
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[...] > I have tried all setq on the: > > query-replace-defaults > query-replace-from-history-variable > query-replace-from-to-separator > query-replace-help > query-replace-highlight > query-replace-history > query-replace-interactive > query-replace-lazy-highlight > query-replace-map > query-replace-show-replacement > query-replace-skip-read-only > query-replace-to-history-variable > > but I simply cant get rid of the very annoying, totally unnecessary: > (default FROM -> TO). [...] Making query-replace-read-from-default return the empty string seems to work; try adding this to your ~/.emacs file: (setq query-replace-read-from-default (lambda () (make-string 0 32))) Steve Berman
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#78038; Package emacs.
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Content preview: Hi gnu/emacs, first: thank you all for many years of providing a great editor. last: sorry to say but my patience with emacs >23.1 is almost gone PLEASE, PLEASE; PLEASE start putting new behaviors dis [...] Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2001:470:142:0:0:0:0:17 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] 1.0 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (olsson_lund[at]yahoo.com) -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 10:40:00 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) ------=_Part_1249633_192498983.1745487114715 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gnu/emacs, first: thank you all for many years of providing a great editor. last: sorry to say but my patience with emacs >23.1 is almost gone PLEASE, PLEASE; PLEASE start putting new behaviors disabled.The query-repla= ce (default FROM -> TO) is a major disaster.I do not want FROM -> TO sugges= tions and no matter what I tryand spend on googling this crap I cant turn i= t off.Have you ever imagined to try out a very long FROM stringand then wan= t to do another search/replace after???For some yers I have actually been t= rying more and more to leaveemacs for good, it is closing in to the the swa= p.The last really decent version was 23.1 something.Every single new versio= n simply just adds more and more strangenessand more meaningless settings t= o figure out. I have work to do...The faces is also simply just annouying. = Now left with a too darkbuffer name of the inactive buffer when having two = verticals one.Cant hardly read what file is opened in the inactive before I= clickin it to activate it. Have been emacs fan since 2004 but... I have tried all setq on the: query-replace-defaults=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 query-replace-from-histor= y-variablequery-replace-from-to-separator=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 query-= replace-helpquery-replace-highlight=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 query-replac= e-historyquery-replace-interactive=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 query-replace= -lazy-highlightquery-replace-map=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 query-replace-s= how-replacementquery-replace-skip-read-only=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 quer= y-replace-to-history-variable but I simply cant get rid of the very annoying, totally unnecessary:(defaul= t FROM -> TO). Some settings to nil brakes everything and=C2=A0nothing seem= s to turn off something no one really needs... The UTF handling is still after many years a constant pain which destroysso= me files having swedish characters in them, iso-8859-1 is not workingcorrec= tly anymore. I use emacs:privately (NT emacs on win10, a very old one but does the job)p= rofessionally: every single day. Due to all different versions I often nowadays faces emacs behaviors I do not ask for or wants. Old=C2=A0 version= ssilently disappears from linux distos and leaveas me and many othersscratc= hing our heads what emacs strangeness now has been introduced inthis newer = version... Reagrds=C2=A0Niclas Olsson, Sweden ------=_Part_1249633_192498983.1745487114715 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div class=3D"yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fami= ly:courier new, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><di= v dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa= lse">Hi gnu/emacs,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><d= iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">first: thank you all for many years of= providing a great editor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br>= </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">last: sorry to say but my pati= ence with emacs >23.1 is almost gone</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir= =3D"false"><br></div><div>PLEASE, PLEASE; PLEASE start putting new behavior= s disabled.</div><div>The query-replace (default FROM -> TO) is a major = disaster.</div><div>I do not want FROM -> TO suggestions and no matter w= hat I try</div><div>and spend on googling this crap I cant turn it off.</di= v><div>Have you ever imagined to try out a very long FROM string</div><div>= and then want to do another search/replace after???</div><div>For some yers= I have actually been trying more and more to leave</div><div>emacs for goo= d, it is closing in to the the swap.</div><div>The last really decent versi= on was 23.1 something.</div><div>Every single new version simply just adds = more and more strangeness</div><div>and more meaningless settings to figure= out. I have work to do...</div><div>The faces is also simply just annouyin= g. Now left with a too dark</div><div>buffer name of the inactive buffer wh= en having two verticals one.</div><div>Cant hardly read what file is opened= in the inactive before I click</div><div>in it to activate it. Have been e= macs fan since 2004 but...</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-= setdir=3D"false">I have tried all setq on the:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s= etdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div>= query-replace-defaults</div><div> query-replace-= from-history-variable</div><div>query-replace-from-to-separator</div><div>&= nbsp; query-replace-help</div><div>query-replace-highl= ight</div><div> query-replace-history</div><div>= query-replace-interactive</div><div> query-repla= ce-lazy-highlight</div><div>query-replace-map</div><div>  = ; query-replace-show-replacement</div><div>query-replace-skip-read-o= nly</div><div> query-replace-to-history-variable= </div><div><br></div></div>but I simply cant get rid of the very annoying, = totally unnecessary:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">(default F= ROM -> TO). Some settings to nil brakes everything and </div><div d= ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">nothing seems to turn off something no one= really needs...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div= dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The UTF handling is still after many yea= rs a constant pain which destroys</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals= e">some files having swedish characters in them, iso-8859-1 is not working<= /div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">correctly anymore.</div><div di= r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>I use emacs:</div><div dir=3D"ltr= " data-setdir=3D"false">privately (NT emacs on win10, a very old one but do= es the job)</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">professionally: eve= ry single day. Due to all different versions I often<br>nowadays faces emac= s behaviors I do not ask for or wants. Old versions</div><div dir=3D"= ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">silently disappears from linux distos and leavea= s me and many others</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">scratching= our heads what emacs strangeness now has been introduced in</div><div dir= =3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">this newer version...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Reag= rds </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Niclas Olsson, Sweden= </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat= a-setdir=3D"false"><br></div></div></body></html> ------=_Part_1249633_192498983.1745487114715--
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