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=guix info= partly in English partly in Spanish

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From: "nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: =guix info= partly in English partly in Spanish
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:14:07 +0200

Hi!

I'm on Ubuntu 24.10 foreign distro, ave guix installed via =apt= and did 
a =guix pull= just one or two days ago.

=info guix=  is partly in englsh and partly in german for me,

#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE text
El coordinador de construcciones de Guix
(https://git.cbaines.net/guix/build-coordinator/) ayuda en la
distribución de las construcciones de derivaciones entre máquinas que
ejecuten un “agente”.  El daemon de construcción se usa todavía para la
construcción de las derivaciones, pero el coordinador de construcciones
de Guix gestiona su lanzamiento y trabaja con los resultados.

   The Guix Build Coordinator consists of one “coordinator”, and one or
more connected “agent” processes.  The coordinator process handles
clients submitting builds, and allocating builds to agents.  The agent
processes talk to a build daemon to actually perform the builds, then
send the results back to the coordinator.

   Existe un guión para ejecutar el componente de coordinación del
servicio de coordinación de construcciones de Guix, pero el servicio de
Guix utiliza un guión Guile personalizado en vez de este, para mejorar
la integración con las expresiones-G usadas en la configuración.
#+END_EXAMPLE

My environment:


#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE text
# set | grep -E "(LANG|LC)"
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_NAME=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_TIME=de_LU.UTF-8
MAILCHECK=60
NULLCMD=cat
READNULLCMD=/usr/bin/pager
#+END_EXAMPLE

I'm based in Europe/Austria, I'm a German native speaker, I have my 
system language set to english and my regional settings set to 
germen-luxemburg (as this gives me ISO date format as a standard).

I don´t  speak Spanish at all.

I have also been able to reproduce this on two of my other machines.

One is running Ubuntu 24.04.02 LTS with the following locale settings:

#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE text
# set | grep -E "(LANG|LC)"
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_NAME=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_LU.UTF-8
LC_TIME=de_LU.UTF-8
#+END_EXAMPLE


And the other is Windows 11 running Ubuntu 24.04.02 LTS in WSL2 wit the 
following locale settings:

#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE text
# set | grep -E "(LANG|LC)"
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
#+END_EXAMPLE

Regards

nomike

Message #8 received at 78134 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: "nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com>
Cc: 78134 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#78134: =guix info= partly in English partly in Spanish
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 17:56:15 +0200

Thank you nomike for the report!

"nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com> writes:
> =info guix=  is partly in englsh and partly in [Spanish] for me,

Indeed the Debian or Ubuntu package for guix makes “info guix” appear in
Spanish for me, too.  This is unexpected (I did not know) but probably
not a bug, but the normal behavior of info.

Use “info guix.de” to get the German manual.

The command for the English manual is:

info "(guix)"

You can also select the language at the start of the manual.

This appears to be so, because the Debian/Ubuntu guix package
(rightfully, but unlike Guix System) adds the manual in all languages to
the info directory.  When you enter only “info”, you see that Spanish
comes first.

Not sure yet what/if we want to change something here.

> # set | grep -E "(LANG|LC)"

I suppose in general the command env is more reliable, that is

env | grep -E "(LANG|LC)"


Regards,
Florian

Message #11 received at 78134 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
Cc: 78134 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#78134: =guix info= partly in English partly in Spanish
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 00:28:43 +0200

Hello Florian,

thank you for your suggestions.

On 30.04.25 17:56, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote:
> Not sure yet what/if we want to change something here.


What was confusing me was that the text was partly in English and partly 
in German and I though this would probably a very weird bug.
But of course it's not. It's just an older Spanish version which is not 
yet fully translated.

It all makes sense now.

So yeah, I don't think there is a need to change anything here.

Cheers

nomike

Message #14 received at 78134 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: "nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com>
Cc: 78134 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#78134: =guix info= partly in English partly in Spanish
Date: Sat, 03 May 2025 16:29:29 +0200

Before we close this bug:

"nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com> writes:
> I'm on Ubuntu 24.10 foreign distro, ave guix installed via =apt= and did 
> a =guix pull= just one or two days ago.

I just noticed, after guix pull, `info guix` defaults to the English
manual for me (like longer `info "(guix)"`), because INFOPATH is set to
the directory /home/florian/.guix/current/share/info and this directory
exists now and has the English guix manual come first in
`info /home/florian/.guix/current/share/info/dir`.

This should hold for you as well after `guix pull`.
If not, what is the value of `echo $INFOPATH`?

Regards,
Florian

Message #19 received at 78134-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: "nomike (they/them)" <nomike <at> nomike.com>
Cc: 78134-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#78134: =guix info= partly in English partly in Spanish
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 10:53:55 +0200

"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de> writes:
> Before we close this bug:
>[…]after guix pull,[…]the English guix manual come first[…]
> This should hold for you as well after `guix pull`.
> If not, what is the value of `echo $INFOPATH`?

Anyway, closing the bug now.

Regards,
Florian

Message #22 received at 78134-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: 78374-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: 78134-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "nomike
 \(they/them\)" <nomike <at> nomike.com>, JU <jim.uren <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#78374: info guix - defaults to Spanish version
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 00:35:56 +0200

"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de> writes:

> JU <jim.uren <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> FYI - - 
>>
>> info guix appears to be defaulting to the Spanish version.  
>
> This is a duplicate of <https://bugs.gnu.org/78134>;
> the solution is to write
>
> info "(guix)"
>
> I have asked for advice on
> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2025-05/index.html>
> if this is a bug in Guix’ Debian package or in info.

To my surprise, this has been fixed in Guix by writing a @direntry
of Guix.es instead of Guix in the Spanish manual, thanks to a hint by
Texinfo developers
<https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2025-05/msg00013.html>.

Then the command

info guix

works again.

The fix will be visible only after the next resync from the Weblate
translation system and afterwards Debian/Ubuntu package update (perhaps
after the next Guix release maybe?), so it will take some time.

Closing.  Thank you both, JU and nomike, for making me ask Texinfo devs.

Regards,
Florian

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