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bug-libtool@HIDDEN:bug#78321; Package libtool.
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Some OSs will find a new library automatically if it is installed in the existing configured library paths. The library installed might not ever be intended to be used by the currently executing OS because it is part of new distribution builds. Sometimes libraries are installed privately, using hard-coded run-paths in the dependent binaries. This is very common when a different version of the software is to be run than the OS is designed to support. Expecting a libtool (merely a shell script!) maintainer to write such a document is unreasonable. It is possible that GNU has such a document specific to GNU systems. Bob On Tue, May 13, 2025, 4:12=E2=80=AFAM Reuben Thomas via bug-libtool via Bug= reports for the GNU libtool shared library maintenance tool <bug-libtool@HIDDEN> wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 20:08, Ileana Dumitrescu < > ileanadumitrescu95@HIDDEN> wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply! > > >> This was also previously reported in bug#30402 [1] > > > By me! > > Updating the shared library cache from scratch by executing ldconfig in >> libtool could cause a lot of headache for developers, > > > It would be good to briefly say why it's a problem. (I don't know, and > Debian seems to run ldconfig whenever I install or uninstall a shared > library, so it doesn't seem a big deal at least there.) > > The following could be added: >> >> """ >> After a 'make install' for many GNU/Linux systems, 'ldconfig LIBDIR' may >> need to be executed to help locate newly installed libraries, but you >> should consult with a system administrator before updating the shared >> library cache as this should be done with great care and consideration. >> """ >> > > Again, it would be good if possible to briefly outline potential problems= . > Then the informational message is pretty much complete: it will > > - explains that users may now need to run ldconfig > - gives them the command to run > - > *says why this might not be a good idea (this bit currently missing!) * > - explains what won't work until the command is run > > -- > https://rrt.sc3d.org > --000000000000b446d2063502e089 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">Libtool works on many different operating systems, which = behave in various ways. Some OSs will find a new library automatically if i= t is installed in the existing configured library paths.<div dir=3D"auto"><= br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The library installed might not ever be intended= to be used by the currently executing OS because it is part of new distrib= ution builds.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sometimes = libraries are installed privately, using hard-coded run-paths in the depend= ent binaries. This is very common when a different version of the software = is to be run than the OS is designed to support.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br= ></div><div dir=3D"auto">Expecting a libtool (merely a shell script!) maint= ainer to write such a document is unreasonable. It is possible that GNU has= such a document specific to GNU systems.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>= <div dir=3D"auto">Bob</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_= container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 13, 2025, 4:12= =E2=80=AFAM Reuben Thomas via bug-libtool via Bug reports for the GNU libto= ol shared library maintenance tool <<a href=3D"mailto:bug-libtool@HIDDEN= g">bug-libtool@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e= x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm= ail_attr">On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 20:08, Ileana Dumitrescu <<a href=3D"ma= ilto:ileanadumitrescu95@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ile= anadumitrescu95@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma= il_attr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:sma= ll" class=3D"gmail_default"><div>Thanks for the quick reply!<br></div></div= ></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class=3D= "gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2= 04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> This was also previously reported in bug#30402 [1]</blockquote><div><br></d= iv><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" cl= ass=3D"gmail_default">By me!</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica= ,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol= id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Updating the shared library cache from scratch by executing ldconfig in<br> libtool could cause a lot of headache for developers,</blockquote><div><br>= </div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:s= mall" class=3D"gmail_default">It would be good to briefly say why it's = a problem. (I don't know, and Debian seems to run ldconfig whenever I i= nstall or uninstall a shared library, so it doesn't seem a big deal at = least there.)<br></div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D= "margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le= ft:1ex">The following could be added:<br> <br> """<br> After a 'make install' for many GNU/Linux systems, 'ldconfig LI= BDIR' may<br> need to be executed to help locate newly installed libraries, but you<br> should consult with a system administrator before updating the shared<br> library cache as this should be done with great care and consideration.<br> """<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-f= amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">A= gain, it would be good if possible to briefly outline potential problems. T= hen the informational message is pretty much complete: it will<br></div><di= v style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D= "gmail_default"><ul><li>explains that users may now need to run ldconfig</l= i><li>gives them the command to run</li><li><i>says why this might not be a= good idea <b>(this bit currently missing!)<br></b></i></li><li>explains wh= at won't work until the command is run</li></ul></div></div></div><span= class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g= mail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://r= rt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://rrt.sc3d.org</a><= /div></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000b446d2063502e089--
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Updating the shared library cache from scratch by executing ldconfig in > libtool could cause a lot of headache for developers, It would be good to briefly say why it's a problem. (I don't know, and Debian seems to run ldconfig whenever I install or uninstall a shared library, so it doesn't seem a big deal at least there.) The following could be added: > > """ > After a 'make install' for many GNU/Linux systems, 'ldconfig LIBDIR' may > need to be executed to help locate newly installed libraries, but you > should consult with a system administrator before updating the shared > library cache as this should be done with great care and consideration. > """ > Again, it would be good if possible to briefly outline potential problems. Then the informational message is pretty much complete: it will - explains that users may now need to run ldconfig - gives them the command to run - *says why this might not be a good idea (this bit currently missing!) * - explains what won't work until the command is run -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --00000000000007e73b063500d2f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir= =3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 20:08, Ileana Dumitres= cu <<a href=3D"mailto:ileanadumitrescu95@HIDDEN">ileanadumitrescu95@g= mail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><div sty= le=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmai= l_default"><div>Thanks for the quick reply!<br></div></div></div><div dir= =3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad= ding-left:1ex"><br> This was also previously reported in bug#30402 [1]</blockquote><div><br></d= iv><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" cl= ass=3D"gmail_default">By me!</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica= ,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol= id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Updating the shared library cache from scratch by executing ldconfig in<br> libtool could cause a lot of headache for developers,</blockquote><div><br>= </div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:s= mall" class=3D"gmail_default">It would be good to briefly say why it's = a problem. (I don't know, and Debian seems to run ldconfig whenever I i= nstall or uninstall a shared library, so it doesn't seem a big deal at = least there.)<br></div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D= "margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le= ft:1ex">The following could be added:<br> <br> """<br> After a 'make install' for many GNU/Linux systems, 'ldconfig LI= BDIR' may<br> need to be executed to help locate newly installed libraries, but you<br> should consult with a system administrator before updating the shared<br> library cache as this should be done with great care and consideration.<br> """<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-f= amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">A= gain, it would be good if possible to briefly outline potential problems. T= hen the informational message is pretty much complete: it will<br></div><di= v style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D= "gmail_default"><ul><li>explains that users may now need to run ldconfig</l= i><li>gives them the command to run</li><li><i>says why this might not be a= good idea <b>(this bit currently missing!)<br></b></i></li><li>explains wh= at won't work until the command is run</li></ul></div></div></div><span= class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g= mail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://r= rt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">https://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div></div></div></= div></div> --00000000000007e73b063500d2f1--
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charset="UTF-8" I'm following up on https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libtool/2014-05/msg00024.html I just ran into the same problem: a user reported they had to run `ldconfig` manually after running `[sudo] make install` on one of my projects (Free Recode, formerly GNU Recode). I was surprised, as I thought the autotools ran ldconfig automatically. They do! But on GNU/Linux systems they run `ldconfig -n`, which does not update the cache, as it implies the -N option. This means that libraries are not found after installation. I checked git, and this usage goes back to the initial commit. I wonder whether something changed since then. Mostly obviously, the -n flag causes ldconfig to process only the directories specified on the command line, which I guess is desirable. I can't see a way to update the cache while retaining this behaviour of -n, but maybe that doesn't make sense? Anyway, it seems that either we should simply remove the -n flag from the ldconfig invocation (as on BSD), or document that users will most likely need to run ldconfig themselves after installation (which seems a shame). -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000ab0f4d0634a1d4d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;= font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I'm following up on <a href=3D= "https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libtool/2014-05/msg00024.html">https://= lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libtool/2014-05/msg00024.html</a></div><div styl= e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail= _default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo= nt-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I just ran into the same problem: a = user reported they had to run `ldconfig` manually after running `[sudo] mak= e install` on one of my projects (Free Recode, formerly GNU Recode). I was = surprised, as I thought the autotools ran ldconfig automatically. They do! = But on GNU/Linux systems they run `ldconfig -n`, which does not update the = cache, as it implies the -N option. This means that libraries are not found= after installation.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se= rif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-f= amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I= checked git, and this usage goes back to the initial commit. I wonder whet= her something changed since then. Mostly obviously, the -n flag causes ldco= nfig to process only the directories specified on the command line, which I= guess is desirable. I can't see a way to update the cache while retain= ing this behaviour of -n, but maybe that doesn't make sense?</div><div = style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"g= mail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri= f;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Anyway, it seems that either we = should simply remove the -n flag from the ldconfig invocation (as on BSD), = or document that users will most likely need to run ldconfig themselves aft= er installation (which seems a shame).<br></div></div><br><span class=3D"gm= ail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatu= re" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"lt= r"><a href=3D"https://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">https://rrt.sc3d.org<= /a></div></div></div></div></div> --000000000000ab0f4d0634a1d4d7--
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