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Unexpected requirement of --writable-root when using --share with guix shell

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Package: guix; Reported by: "Navid.Afkhami@HIDDEN" <Navid.Afkhami@HIDDEN>; merged with #78363; Done: Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>; Maintainer for guix is bug-guix@HIDDEN.
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Hi Ricardo,

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN> writes:

> Is this intentional or should we add an exception to make the
> in-container home directory created for the user invoking "guix shell"
> writable for that same user?

This is being discussed in <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/78363>.  The
conclusion so far is that we should probably make $HOME writable.

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.




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This is due to a change introduced with commit=20
ce363c1dc7bd63a74dcf7788d340819f6d5db89f:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
commit ce363c1dc7bd63a74dcf7788d340819f6d5db89f
Author: Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>

    environment: Add =E2=80=98--writable-root=E2=80=99 and default to read-=
only=20
    root.
=20=20=20=20
    This is an incompatible change where the root file system in
    =E2=80=98guix shell -C=E2=80=99 is now read-only by default.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

There have been follow-up commits, such as=20
edc799dabfb059735f1a3084384925fe573d9de1 to make /tmp writable=20
again:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
commit edc799dabfb059735f1a3084384925fe573d9de1
Author: Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>

    environment, home: Make /tmp writable.
=20=20=20=20
    Fixes <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/78272>.
=20=20=20=20
    Fixes a bug caused by commit=20
    ce363c1dc7bd63a74dcf7788d340819f6d5db89f,
    which inadvertently made /tmp read-only as well.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The problem here is that the user's temporary home directory=20
inside the container is now read-only by default, because it is a=20
decendent of the read-only root directory:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
guix shell --container coreutils -- /bin/sh -c 'env > ~/.test'
/bin/sh: line 1: /home/rekado/.test: Read-only file system
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Is this intentional or should we add an exception to make the=20
in-container home directory created for the user invoking "guix=20
shell" writable for that same user?

--=20
Ricardo




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Dear Guix Team,

I=E2=80=99d like to report what may be an unintended behavior in recent =
versions of guix shell.

Summary:

When using guix shell with the --share option, we are now required to =
also pass --writable-root for the command to work. This was not =
previously necessary and may be a regression or side effect of recent =
changes.

Expectation

Given that --share should allow mounting host directories into the =
container, it=E2=80=99s not clear why --writable-root is required. This =
seems to go against the previous behavior and intended design.

Please let me know if additional information is needed. Happy to assist =
with further debugging.

Best regards,
Navid

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- - =20

Navid Afkhami

High Performance Computing (HPC)

Max Delbr=C3=BCck Center for Molecular Medicine (MDC)

Robert-R=C3=B6ssle-Stra=C3=9Fe 10, 13125 Berlin

Phone: +49 30 9406 1316

Email:   navid.afkhami@HIDDEN

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>Dear</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'> Guix =
Team,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>I=E2=80=99d like to report =
what may be an unintended behavior in recent versions of </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>guix shell</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>Summary</span></b><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>When using </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>guix shell</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'> with the </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>--share</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'> option, we are now =
required to also pass </span><span style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>--writable-root</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'> for the command to work. =
This was not previously necessary and may be a regression or side effect =
of recent changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>Expectation<o:p></o:p></span=
></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>Given that </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>--share</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'> should allow mounting host =
directories into the container, it=E2=80=99s not clear why </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>--writable-root</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'> is required. This seems to =
go against the previous behavior and intended =
design.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>Please let me know if =
additional information is needed. Happy to assist with further =
debugging.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"IBM Plex =
Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:#1000'>Best =
regards,<br>Navid<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"IBM Plex =
Serif",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>- -=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>Navid Afkhami<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>High Performance Computing (HPC)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>Max Delbr=C3=BCck Center for Molecular Medicine =
(MDC)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>Robert-R=C3=B6ssle-Stra=C3=9Fe 10, 13125 =
Berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>Phone: +49 30 9406 1316<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-languag=
e:#1000'>Email:=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
navid.afkhami@HIDDEN<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Acknowledgement sent to "Navid.Afkhami@HIDDEN" <Navid.Afkhami@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-guix@HIDDEN:
bug#78440; Package guix. Full text available.
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