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Reported by: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 15:28:02 UTC
Severity: normal
Found in version 30.1
Done: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net>
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(Thu, 29 May 2025 15:28:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net>
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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 30.1; Functions described in manual are not available Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 15:27:26 +0000
Hello, In (info "(elisp) Predicates on Numbers") -- Function: plusp number This predicate tests whether its argument is positive, and returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be a number. -- Function: minusp number This predicate tests whether its argument is negative, and returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be a number. -- Function: oddp integer This predicate tests whether its argument is an odd number, and returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be an integer. -- Function: evenp integer This predicate tests whether its argument is an even number, and returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be an integer. All these functions are available in cl-lib with "cl-" prefix (not a scoop, it's always been the case), but not without: M-: (evenp 2) eval: Symbol's function definition is void: evenp In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 5, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2025-02-24 built on IPad-S340 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: Linux Mint 21.3 Configured using: 'configure CFLAGS=-O8 --bindir=/usr/local/sbin/emacs-30.1 --with-cairo --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-modules --without-tree-sitter --without-native-compilation --disable-gc-mark-trace' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-undo-mode: t server-mode: t psession-mode: t psession-savehist-mode: t global-git-gutter-mode: t display-time-mode: t winner-mode: t tv-save-place-mode: t helm-epa-mode: t helm-descbinds-mode: t helm-top-poll-mode: t helm-adaptive-mode: t helm-mode: t helm-minibuffer-history-mode: t helm-ff-icon-mode: t helm-popup-tip-mode: t dired-async-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t gcmh-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-cite epa-mail mail-extr helm-ring emacsbug tramp-archive tramp-gvfs tramp-cache time-stamp zeroconf helm-command helm-elisp helm-eval edebug debug backtrace helm-info nndraft nnmh utf-7 nnfolder epa-file network-stream nsm gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg nntp gnus-cache helm-ls-git vc-git markdown-mode color flycheck vc vc-dispatcher cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs org-indent oc-basic cl-extra org-element org-persist org-id org-refile org-element-ast inline avl-tree generator ol-eww eww url-queue mm-url ol-rmail ol-mhe ol-irc ol-info ol-gnus nnselect gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime gnutls dig gnus-sum shr pixel-fill kinsoku url-file svg dom gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus dbus xml gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 nnoo gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus nnheader range ol-docview doc-view jka-compr ol-bibtex bibtex ol-bbdb ol-w3m ol-doi org-link-doi org-config ob-gnuplot org-crypt org-protocol org ob ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-macro org-src sh-script smie treesit executable ob-comint org-pcomplete org-list org-footnote org-faces org-entities noutline outline org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval org-cycle org-table ol org-fold org-fold-core org-keys oc org-loaddefs find-func org-compat org-macs bug-reference thingatpt cus-start naquadah-tv-theme solar cal-dst holidays holiday-loaddefs appt diary-lib diary-loaddefs cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs server imenu tv-utils psession frameset mail-config gnus-patch diff-mode track-changes addressbook-bookmark message sendmail yank-media puny rfc822 mml mml-sec gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils mailheader bookmark git-gutter pcase avoid dired-extension time winner describe-variable help-fns radix-tree tv-save-place.el init-helm epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config helm-epa helm-descbinds cus-edit pp cus-load wid-edit helm-sys helm-adaptive helm-mode helm-misc helm-files image-dired image-dired-tags image-dired-external image-dired-util image-mode exif filenotify tramp rx trampver tramp-integration files-x tramp-message help-mode tramp-compat xdg shell pcomplete parse-time iso8601 time-date tramp-loaddefs helm-buffers helm-x-icons all-the-icons all-the-icons-faces data-material data-weathericons data-octicons data-fileicons data-faicons data-alltheicons helm-occur helm-tags helm-locate helm-grep wgrep-helm wgrep grep compile text-property-search comint ansi-osc ring helm-regexp format-spec ansi-color helm-utils helm-help helm-types helm-extensions-autoloads helm-autoloads helm helm-global-bindings helm-easymenu edmacro kmacro helm-core helm-source helm-multi-match helm-lib dired-async async dired-aux dired dired-loaddefs isl-autoloads mb-depth gcmh easy-mmode all-the-icons-autoloads bash-completion-autoloads emms-autoloads flycheck-autoloads info ledger-mode-autoloads markdown-mode-autoloads nerd-icons-autoloads w3m-load w3m-autoloads package browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs icons password-cache json subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd touch-screen tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 890079 922669) (symbols 48 38027 11) (strings 32 214313 45188) (string-bytes 1 5496662) (vectors 16 90705) (vector-slots 8 897968 1154426) (floats 8 2284 1121) (intervals 56 71017 2408) (buffers 984 113)) -- Thierry
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(Thu, 29 May 2025 15:51:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #8 received at 78629 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net> Cc: 78629 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#78629: 30.1; Functions described in manual are not available Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 18:50:05 +0300
> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net> > Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 15:27:26 +0000 > > > Hello, In (info "(elisp) Predicates on Numbers") > > -- Function: plusp number > This predicate tests whether its argument is positive, and returns > ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be a number. > > -- Function: minusp number > This predicate tests whether its argument is negative, and returns > ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be a number. > > -- Function: oddp integer > This predicate tests whether its argument is an odd number, and > returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be an > integer. > > -- Function: evenp integer > This predicate tests whether its argument is an even number, and > returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be an > integer. > > All these functions are available in cl-lib with "cl-" prefix (not a > scoop, it's always been the case), but not without: > > M-: (evenp 2) > eval: Symbol's function definition is void: evenp You are reading the ELisp manual for Emacs 31, but trying these functions in Emacs 30: > In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 5, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo > version 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2025-02-24 built on IPad-S340 > Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 > System Description: Linux Mint 21.3 Emacs 31 adds several functions documented in that node, including evenp. They are no longer in cl-lib, but in subr.el. I see no bug here.
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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net>, 78629-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#78629: 30.1; Functions described in manual are not available Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 17:38:53 +0000
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol <at> posteo.net> >> Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 15:27:26 +0000 >> >> >> Hello, In (info "(elisp) Predicates on Numbers") >> >> -- Function: plusp number >> This predicate tests whether its argument is positive, and returns >> ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be a number. >> >> -- Function: minusp number >> This predicate tests whether its argument is negative, and returns >> ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be a number. >> >> -- Function: oddp integer >> This predicate tests whether its argument is an odd number, and >> returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be an >> integer. >> >> -- Function: evenp integer >> This predicate tests whether its argument is an even number, and >> returns ‘t’ if so, ‘nil’ otherwise. The argument must be an >> integer. >> >> All these functions are available in cl-lib with "cl-" prefix (not a >> scoop, it's always been the case), but not without: >> >> M-: (evenp 2) >> eval: Symbol's function definition is void: evenp > > You are reading the ELisp manual for Emacs 31, but trying these > functions in Emacs 30: Oops, yes indeed, used the wrong alias when configuring emacs. >> In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 5, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo >> version 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2025-02-24 built on IPad-S340 >> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 >> System Description: Linux Mint 21.3 > > Emacs 31 adds several functions documented in that node, including > evenp. They are no longer in cl-lib, but in subr.el. Great! > I see no bug here. Sorry for the noise and thanks, closing now. -- Thierry
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