X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented Resent-From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 13:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.78720.B.17493900114851 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 78720 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 78720 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.17493900114851 (code B ref -1); Sun, 08 Jun 2025 13:41:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 13:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uOGFv-0001Fc-3i for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFr-00019x-G4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFl-0008L8-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (helo=metalevel.at) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFj-0005jw-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from mt-VivoBook (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A9B9C77E for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mt-VivoBook (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0346480A2E; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.47.144.35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.47.144.35; envelope-from=triska@HIDDEN; helo=metalevel.at X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: -- Variable: font-lock-defaults ... If its value is =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99, ... you can use the =E2= =80=98Faces=E2=80=99 menu (under =E2=80=98Edit=E2=80=99 and then =E2=80=98Text Properties=E2= =80=99 in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. Can you reproduce this issue? Thank you and all the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2025-03-23 built on mt-laptop Repository revision: 7d14e35498209e45290f5c1297ded6d7175bf1ea Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302000 System Description: Ubuntu 23.10 Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid --with-xpm=3Difavailable --with-gif=3Difavailable --with-tiff=3Difavailable --with-gnutls=3Difavailable --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs --enable-check-lisp-object-type 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3'' Configured features: FREETYPE GMP JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XFT XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB
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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: bug#78720: closed (31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented) CC: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: <handler.78720.D78720.17493976109649.ackdone <at> debbugs.gnu.org> References: <861prugrs3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Gnu-PR-Message: closed 78720 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:47:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1749397622-9676-0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1749397622-9676-0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Your message dated Sun, 08 Jun 2025 18:46:36 +0300 with message-id <861prugrs3.fsf@HIDDEN> and subject line Re: bug#78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not ava= ilable as documented has caused the debbugs.gnu.org bug report #78720, regarding 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented to be marked as done. (If you believe you have received this mail in error, please contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN) --=20 78720: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D78720 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems ------------=_1749397622-9676-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 13:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uOGFv-0001Fc-3i for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFr-00019x-G4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFl-0008L8-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (helo=metalevel.at) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFj-0005jw-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from mt-VivoBook (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A9B9C77E for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mt-VivoBook (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0346480A2E; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.47.144.35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.47.144.35; envelope-from=triska@HIDDEN; helo=metalevel.at X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: -- Variable: font-lock-defaults ... If its value is =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99, ... you can use the =E2= =80=98Faces=E2=80=99 menu (under =E2=80=98Edit=E2=80=99 and then =E2=80=98Text Properties=E2= =80=99 in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. Can you reproduce this issue? Thank you and all the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2025-03-23 built on mt-laptop Repository revision: 7d14e35498209e45290f5c1297ded6d7175bf1ea Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302000 System Description: Ubuntu 23.10 Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid --with-xpm=3Difavailable --with-gif=3Difavailable --with-tiff=3Difavailable --with-gnutls=3Difavailable --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs --enable-check-lisp-object-type 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3'' Configured features: FREETYPE GMP JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XFT XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB ------------=_1749397622-9676-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 78720-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 15:46:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52640 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uOIET-0002VZ-JA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uOIER-0002VF-7I for 78720-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uOIEK-0004qo-L3; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=WWhkyF9IbLHDudm4Jgkzvn4lcSBDtGX0uEAzwIUm9hQ=; b=SLViE9SF5Y5SZe9L/Yol W5MvOSxfzJGV1w6ErPSXACoT3svl6b4/CQX67O17MMttqKk+DAE3cAG37QAao/+NeFAOX3kx54HnN RvJbe74//6og3UgEQJhblCnIqI6kaU+hUqDIrYuJRU+VuDEJQwmta+n76iWvdxqfWEplmgUdmHBvA 1BMqE7TLF0xkHhE0JaMvWFv7nOtntn6vKk6QDd1A+S2lGNmVp8ZhTDDWlVsfsIoxdYqy5boam1yx0 dasHcqrhwMgYzRTHv4jpKGa282wR5KouzR5Eos2t00rv0CjzWdKlCV4DKbCbUPJCtEuCS5F4Cx03Z ALDrolhAmm0csg==; Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 18:46:36 +0300 Message-Id: <861prugrs3.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Markus Triska on Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented References: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78720-done Cc: 78720-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 > > > To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: > > $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' > > >From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I > can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" > in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: > > -- Variable: font-lock-defaults > ... If its value is ‘nil’, ... you can use the ‘Faces’ menu > (under ‘Edit’ and then ‘Text Properties’ in the menu bar) to > assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. > > However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. The "Face" menu was removed in Emacs 28, so I've deleted that sentence from the manual. See NEWS.28 (search for "facemenu") about the change, which includes how to get the old behavior back, if you want it. I'm closing this bug with this message. ------------=_1749397622-9676-0--
MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> Subject: bug#78720: closed (Re: bug#78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented) Message-ID: <handler.78720.D78720.17493976109649.notifdone <at> debbugs.gnu.org> References: <861prugrs3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 78720 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 78720 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:47:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1749397622-9676-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1749397622-9676-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 78720 <at> debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 78720: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D78720 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems ------------=_1749397622-9676-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 78720-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 15:46:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52640 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uOIET-0002VZ-JA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uOIER-0002VF-7I for 78720-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uOIEK-0004qo-L3; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=WWhkyF9IbLHDudm4Jgkzvn4lcSBDtGX0uEAzwIUm9hQ=; b=SLViE9SF5Y5SZe9L/Yol W5MvOSxfzJGV1w6ErPSXACoT3svl6b4/CQX67O17MMttqKk+DAE3cAG37QAao/+NeFAOX3kx54HnN RvJbe74//6og3UgEQJhblCnIqI6kaU+hUqDIrYuJRU+VuDEJQwmta+n76iWvdxqfWEplmgUdmHBvA 1BMqE7TLF0xkHhE0JaMvWFv7nOtntn6vKk6QDd1A+S2lGNmVp8ZhTDDWlVsfsIoxdYqy5boam1yx0 dasHcqrhwMgYzRTHv4jpKGa282wR5KouzR5Eos2t00rv0CjzWdKlCV4DKbCbUPJCtEuCS5F4Cx03Z ALDrolhAmm0csg==; Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 18:46:36 +0300 Message-Id: <861prugrs3.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Markus Triska on Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented References: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78720-done Cc: 78720-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 > > > To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: > > $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' > > >From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I > can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" > in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: > > -- Variable: font-lock-defaults > ... If its value is ‘nil’, ... you can use the ‘Faces’ menu > (under ‘Edit’ and then ‘Text Properties’ in the menu bar) to > assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. > > However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. The "Face" menu was removed in Emacs 28, so I've deleted that sentence from the manual. See NEWS.28 (search for "facemenu") about the change, which includes how to get the old behavior back, if you want it. I'm closing this bug with this message. ------------=_1749397622-9676-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 13:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uOGFv-0001Fc-3i for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFr-00019x-G4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFl-0008L8-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (helo=metalevel.at) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1uOGFj-0005jw-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from mt-VivoBook (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A9B9C77E for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mt-VivoBook (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0346480A2E; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.47.144.35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.47.144.35; envelope-from=triska@HIDDEN; helo=metalevel.at X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: -- Variable: font-lock-defaults ... If its value is =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99, ... you can use the =E2= =80=98Faces=E2=80=99 menu (under =E2=80=98Edit=E2=80=99 and then =E2=80=98Text Properties=E2= =80=99 in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. Can you reproduce this issue? Thank you and all the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2025-03-23 built on mt-laptop Repository revision: 7d14e35498209e45290f5c1297ded6d7175bf1ea Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302000 System Description: Ubuntu 23.10 Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid --with-xpm=3Difavailable --with-gif=3Difavailable --with-tiff=3Difavailable --with-gnutls=3Difavailable --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs --enable-check-lisp-object-type 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3'' Configured features: FREETYPE GMP JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XFT XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB ------------=_1749397622-9676-1--
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