Received: (at 78758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2025 22:37:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 14 18:37:34 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uQZVF-0006KD-N6 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:37:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1uQZV9-0006Ij-Ui for 78758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:37:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1uQZV4-0004lR-57; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:37:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=RtFyE9GwVCWpkMs8hPqhqoOyTc8rtPKfrHj2/297dGI=; b=I7zeT5/DxDnF1Z+y5uLm datpriyi5Rue6YGm/Bk+VyUq1BLDJQ0myWQG9zL6zqWxk+MtztfZsqrZjxTeFMHcMH52cc3XhQpoH sRMtAjhf5s9IHWdOhYRPyL5YgPRw5xemJ+AMf5WJkYxNjFGo3vDx4kOJYKdRD5A5tUEwcZu+U6pk8 1pts44tTTJpzsDc+N+rdPpQgBsuBoB8lCbDrRfW+UhVACcP3m6UHEPtiuqX+3zPTKNiGz8W8Bjft9 xxaFPe+oYugTzDJVBbLUmhI2WT/BSZ/6709TDUJylbZd5DF5lgzAMeLlWx7bLngqiqSDCeLaXIXBo Xs9XFaKCB+NcAg==; From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: burban@HIDDEN Subject: Re: bug#78758: shepherd: herd graph issue In-Reply-To: <87ikkygm9e.fsf@HIDDEN> (burban@HIDDEN's message of "Sat, 14 Jun 2025 19:23:57 +0000") References: <87wm9jpdnx.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tt4j5k9v.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikkygm9e.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.11; emacs 29.4 X-URL: https://people.bordeaux.inria.fr/lcourtes/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu X-Revolutionary-Date: Septidi 27 Prairial an 233 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9vo?= =?utf-8?Q?lution=2C?= jour de la Verveine Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 00:19:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87tt4i2ch0.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78758 Cc: 78758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, burban@HIDDEN writes: > It would perhaps make everyone happy to add the root service in the > graph only if #:requirement is empty. I think it would be confusing. It should either always show the =E2=80=98r= oot=E2=80=99 node, or never show it. Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Full text available.Received: (at 78758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2025 22:53:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 13 18:53:37 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53846 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uQDHF-0004Wk-2t for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2025 18:53:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47608) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1uQDH9-0004VU-T5 for 78758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2025 18:53:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1uQDH4-0003ye-IF; Fri, 13 Jun 2025 18:53:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=4XL8cuiZ/edJGMuHjKXjYoDaif3osS4gawvb0iX738k=; b=cJwvzRzqsbbsdTzZi6bh UqTGk/WXyLo9jIlVyuqkC37F8IdjlpTYyHjlNaWWlXmhKF6n2seDRdRV/fWH+A+pkJ0lSJE62S7fF CpDkukpuI+iWQbPwnaBzL6C68wLk21AqDdKRowBd0hoRVetqDVUL8NoQWv5f+Y4ptqvJZIb7hIxCs OnvTwPI1/No5NvKkd/zvJ0BhBjGmTOy7DFC0r2WBBkXozTc+a1GUKIAI283gLpNT558Oqh/MtmZw2 nQGjX/YgUaAWOGgsb3BQCSjzqvqLsMJ1ZA2Nc4hGO4dIEhY0WJ+msmvdSL2wDE0thCbA4ZEmrmIoS kMHoW3GjxGGDKg==; From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: burban--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#78758: shepherd: herd graph issue In-Reply-To: <87wm9jpdnx.fsf@HIDDEN> (burban's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:03:30 +0000") References: <87wm9jpdnx.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.11; emacs 29.4 X-URL: https://people.bordeaux.inria.fr/lcourtes/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu X-Revolutionary-Date: Sextidi 26 Prairial an 233 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9vo?= =?utf-8?Q?lution=2C?= jour du Jasmin Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:50:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87tt4j5k9v.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78758 Cc: 78758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, burban@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, burban--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@HIDDEN> writes: > I noticed that "herd graph" always creates a link to root, which IMO > clobbers the picture (I can send pictures if that is allowed on this > list or their source) Yeah I wondered about that at the time but found that not having a clear source node on the graph looked weird (and inaccurate). So hmm, I don=E2=80=99t know! Ludo=E2=80=99.
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