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The bug name is maybe too general. I'm still discovering more messes
based on changes to `pp.el' for v30.1.
You added `pp-use-max-width' in v29. And now you're obsoleting it in
v30.1? Not a good smell...
A specific (but multifarious) bug to report is this -
The defcustom for `pp-default-function' (new in 30.1) has this :tag,
which is what users see in the Customize menu:
"`pp-emacs-lisp-code' if `pp-use-max-width' else `pp-28'"
That's odd enough. Unhelpful, as it means users need to look up three
function definitions, just to grok what that menu item might mean.
Worse still: It refers to a variable, `pp-use-max-width', that you've
deprecated in 30.1! Hard to believe; one can't make this stuff up.
You introduce a new option that depends for its understanding on
something you tell users is no longer to be used.
So to understand that menu item, you need to look up 3 functions, and
grok their differences (using the doc, if sufficient). AND then you
need to discover that one of those functions is deprecated, and you're
told that the `CURRENT-NAME' for the function, that is, the function
that should be used instead, is `pp-default-function'.
But then ... `pp-default-function' isn't even a function! It's a
variable.
What's more, the :tag (menu item) that you're trying to figure out is
for exactly that same variable!! Poor user - you're the snake who's
just discovered it's swallowing its own tail.
No doubt there are more problems introduced in `pp.el' in 30.1. I
stumbled onto this because plain old lovable workhorse function `pp'
has been changed in a backward-incompatible way. I have yet to figure
out what all the other damage is. But suffice it to say that even
vanilla bookmark.el has been forced to do this: wrap its call to `pp'
with (let ((pp-default-function #'pp-28)).
Sorry to say it, but this really smells like shoddy work. Standard,
longstanding `pp' behavior is now relegated to a function called
`pp-28'.
You couldn't just keep `pp' as was, and add whatever bells & whistles
you're convinced are an improvement as another function or an opt-in
option? Is Emacs now trying to "move fast and break things"?
`pp' is so basic. This surgery is akin to redefining `cons' to do
lazy consing _by default_.
I don't even know what to recommend that you do at this point, to
clean up the damage done. You've tried to "prettify" PP, but you've
made it a whole lot uglier, it seems. Should instead have added a
prettified-pretty-print library to ELPA, as a substitute or add-on.
Poor little `pp' didn't deserve this (well intentioned) trashing.
In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2025-02-23 built on
AVALON
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.26100
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.26100.4061)
Configured using:
'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation=3Daot
--without-compress-install --with-tree-sitter CFLAGS=3D-O2
prefix=3D/g/rel/install/emacs-30.1'
Configured features:
ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP
NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB
(NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available)
Important settings:
value of $LANG: ENU
locale-coding-system: cp1252
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