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Matthias Meulien <orontee@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Matthias, > Just realized that another interest of using bookmarks would be to > store queries not search results. This is a remarkable benefit over debbugs' tags and marks, indeed. So pls continue your work. > Regards, > --=20 > Matthias Best regards, Michael.
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Thus when > visiting the bookmark menu, where I have among others a > bookmarks to "Emacs sources" handled by `vc-dir' and a > bookmark to "Search results for "emacs" - explain xkcd" > handled by EWW, I could also have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug > #78864" handled by Debbugs. > > On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion and > rework my patch in a separate file, so I can eventually > continue using bookmarks to track bugs. If it happens, I'll > share the result and see whether other people are interested > (I doubt).=20 > > You can also do this using the debbugs web site > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=3Dshipmints%40gmail.c= om > and replace my email address with your own (or someone else's). That > you can bookmark using `eww` or an external web browser. Anything goes, of course. But the idea of the debbugs package is to avoid the web interface, and to offer a better integration with Emacs workflows. Once you have opened a bookmark with respective bugs, you want to work on them, like sending a message, applying a patch, whatever. This doesn't go smoothly with a web page in eww. So if we want to support bookmarks with the debbugs package, Matthias' approach seems to be OK. Best regards, Michael.
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No serious impact on what I previously wrote= . > > Le dim. 22 juin 2025 =C3=A0 21:06, Matthias Meulien <orontee@HIDDEN> a > =C3=A9crit : > >> It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I >>>> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bu= gs >>>> in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and >>>> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out those. >>> >>> But I won't object if I understand the additional benefit. >>>> >>> >>> Not clear to me at this point. Give me time to try what you recommended= . >>> I suspect that we'll just close the bug. >>> >> >> I read the Tabulated Lists node of the manual and learn what tag and mar= k >> means in the context of Debbugs. I tried both features. >> >> One interest of bookmarks is that it uses a single interface whatever th= e >> handler and major mode is: You learn them once. >> >> Another interest is that they're centralized. Thus when visiting the >> bookmark menu, where I have among others a bookmarks to "Emacs sources" >> handled by `vc-dir' and a bookmark to "Search results for "emacs" - expl= ain >> xkcd" handled by EWW, I could also have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug #78864= " >> handled by Debbugs. >> >> But my feeling is that it's not worth introducing bookmarks in >> debbugs-gnu.el: It'd add confusion for little gain. >> >> On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion and rework my patch >> in a separate file, so I can eventually continue using bookmarks to trac= k >> bugs. If it happens, I'll share the result and see whether other people >> are interested (I doubt). >> >> Feel free to close that bug. >> > You can also do this using the debbugs web site https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=3Dshipmints%40gmail.com= and replace my email address with your own (or someone else's). That you can bookmark using `eww` or an external web browser. --0000000000004c5cda06382dfce6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 3:10=E2=80=AFPM Matthias Meulien <<a href=3D"mai= lto:orontee@HIDDEN">orontee@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><= div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,= 204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Just realized that another interest= of using bookmarks would be to store queries not search results.=C2=A0 No = serious impact on what I previously wrote.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0dim. 22 juin 2025 =C3= =A0=C2=A021:06, Matthias Meulien <<a href=3D"mailto:orontee@HIDDEN" t= arget=3D"_blank">orontee@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef= t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D= "ltr"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st= yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd= ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote= "><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde= r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I<b= r> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs<br= > in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and<br> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking.<= br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><= br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out = those.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gma= il_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8= ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But I won't= object if I understand the additional benefit.<br></blockquote></div></div= ><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not clear to me at this poin= t. Give me time to try what you recommended. I suspect that we'll just = close the bug.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I read the=C2=A0= Tabulated Lists node of the manual and learn what tag and mark means in the= context of Debbugs.=C2=A0 I tried both features. <br></div><div><br></div>= <div>One interest of bookmarks is that it uses a single interface whatever = the handler and major mode is: You learn them once.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d= iv><div>Another interest is that they're centralized.=C2=A0 Thus when v= isiting the bookmark menu, where I have among others a bookmarks to "E= macs sources" handled by `vc-dir' and a bookmark to "Search r= esults for "emacs" - explain xkcd" handled by EWW, I could a= lso have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug #78864" handled by Debbugs.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>But my feeling is that it's not worth introducin= g bookmarks in debbugs-gnu.el: It'd add confusion for little gain.</div= ><div><br></div><div>On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion a= nd rework my patch in a separate file, so I can eventually continue using b= ookmarks to track bugs.=C2=A0 If it happens, I'll share the result and = see whether other people are interested (I doubt). <br></div><div><br></div= ><div>Feel free to close that bug.<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>= </blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami= ly:monospace">You can also do this using the debbugs web site=C2=A0<a href= =3D"https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=3Dshipmints%40gmail= .com">https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=3Dshipmints%40gma= il.com</a>=C2=A0and replace my email address with your own (or someone else= 's).=C2=A0 That you can bookmark using `eww` or an external web browser= .</div></div></div> --0000000000004c5cda06382dfce6--
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No serious impact on what I previously wrote. Le dim. 22 juin 2025 =C3=A0 21:06, Matthias Meulien <orontee@HIDDEN> a = =C3=A9crit : > It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I >>> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bug= s >>> in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and >>> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking. >>> >> >> >> I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out those. >> >> But I won't object if I understand the additional benefit. >>> >> >> Not clear to me at this point. Give me time to try what you recommended. >> I suspect that we'll just close the bug. >> > > I read the Tabulated Lists node of the manual and learn what tag and mark > means in the context of Debbugs. I tried both features. > > One interest of bookmarks is that it uses a single interface whatever the > handler and major mode is: You learn them once. > > Another interest is that they're centralized. Thus when visiting the > bookmark menu, where I have among others a bookmarks to "Emacs sources" > handled by `vc-dir' and a bookmark to "Search results for "emacs" - expla= in > xkcd" handled by EWW, I could also have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug #78864" > handled by Debbugs. > > But my feeling is that it's not worth introducing bookmarks in > debbugs-gnu.el: It'd add confusion for little gain. > > On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion and rework my patch > in a separate file, so I can eventually continue using bookmarks to track > bugs. If it happens, I'll share the result and see whether other people > are interested (I doubt). > > Feel free to close that bug. > > Regards, > -- > Matthias > --=20 Matthias --00000000000048d22f06382dd4df Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Just realized that another interest of using bookmarks wou= ld be to store queries not search results.=C2=A0 No serious impact on what = I previously wrote.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_cont= ainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0dim. 22 juin 2025 =C3= =A0=C2=A021:06, Matthias Meulien <<a href=3D"mailto:orontee@HIDDEN">o= rontee@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"= gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20= 4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div= dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r= gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I<b= r> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs<br= > in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and<br> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking.<= br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><= br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out = those.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gma= il_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8= ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But I won't= object if I understand the additional benefit.<br></blockquote></div></div= ><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not clear to me at this poin= t. Give me time to try what you recommended. I suspect that we'll just = close the bug.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I read the=C2=A0= Tabulated Lists node of the manual and learn what tag and mark means in the= context of Debbugs.=C2=A0 I tried both features. <br></div><div><br></div>= <div>One interest of bookmarks is that it uses a single interface whatever = the handler and major mode is: You learn them once.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d= iv><div>Another interest is that they're centralized.=C2=A0 Thus when v= isiting the bookmark menu, where I have among others a bookmarks to "E= macs sources" handled by `vc-dir' and a bookmark to "Search r= esults for "emacs" - explain xkcd" handled by EWW, I could a= lso have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug #78864" handled by Debbugs.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>But my feeling is that it's not worth introducin= g bookmarks in debbugs-gnu.el: It'd add confusion for little gain.</div= ><div><br></div><div>On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion a= nd rework my patch in a separate file, so I can eventually continue using b= ookmarks to track bugs.=C2=A0 If it happens, I'll share the result and = see whether other people are interested (I doubt). <br></div><div><br></div= ><div>Feel free to close that bug.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><= /div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_signature">Matthias</div></div> </blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si= gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ma= tthias</div> --00000000000048d22f06382dd4df--
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Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I >> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs >> in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and >> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking. >> > > > I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out those. > > But I won't object if I understand the additional benefit. >> > > Not clear to me at this point. Give me time to try what you recommended. I > suspect that we'll just close the bug. > I read the Tabulated Lists node of the manual and learn what tag and mark means in the context of Debbugs. I tried both features. One interest of bookmarks is that it uses a single interface whatever the handler and major mode is: You learn them once. Another interest is that they're centralized. Thus when visiting the bookmark menu, where I have among others a bookmarks to "Emacs sources" handled by `vc-dir' and a bookmark to "Search results for "emacs" - explain xkcd" handled by EWW, I could also have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug #78864" handled by Debbugs. But my feeling is that it's not worth introducing bookmarks in debbugs-gnu.el: It'd add confusion for little gain. On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion and rework my patch in a separate file, so I can eventually continue using bookmarks to track bugs. If it happens, I'll share the result and see whether other people are interested (I doubt). Feel free to close that bug. Regards, -- Matthias --00000000000010b0b006382dccf5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quo= te_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px= 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D= "auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gm= ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,= 204,204);padding-left:1ex"> It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I<b= r> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs<br= > in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and<br> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking.<= br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><= br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out = those.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gma= il_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8= ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But I won't= object if I understand the additional benefit.<br></blockquote></div></div= ><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not clear to me at this poin= t. Give me time to try what you recommended. I suspect that we'll just = close the bug.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I read the=C2=A0= Tabulated Lists node of the manual and learn what tag and mark means in the= context of Debbugs.=C2=A0 I tried both features. <br></div><div><br></div>= <div>One interest of bookmarks is that it uses a single interface whatever = the handler and major mode is: You learn them once.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d= iv><div>Another interest is that they're centralized.=C2=A0 Thus when v= isiting the bookmark menu, where I have among others a bookmarks to "E= macs sources" handled by `vc-dir' and a bookmark to "Search r= esults for "emacs" - explain xkcd" handled by EWW, I could a= lso have a bookmark for "Emacs Bug #78864" handled by Debbugs.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>But my feeling is that it's not worth introducin= g bookmarks in debbugs-gnu.el: It'd add confusion for little gain.</div= ><div><br></div><div>On my side I may find time to follow your suggestion a= nd rework my patch in a separate file, so I can eventually continue using b= ookmarks to track bugs.=C2=A0 If it happens, I'll share the result and = see whether other people are interested (I doubt). <br></div><div><br></div= ><div>Feel free to close that bug.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><= /div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_signature">Matthias</div></div> --00000000000010b0b006382dccf5--
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I just show > > that you're the package maintainer. Please tell me whether there's a > > better place to post what follows, and I'll do it. > > GNU ELPA packages are regarded as part of Emacs. 'M-x report-emacs-bug' > is perfect for them. > > I'm sending my reply to <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> in order to get a bug > number. > Thank you! > Here's my point. For people (like me!) that haven't subscribed to > > emacs bug mailing list (frightened by its traffic for example) it's > > difficult to follow a bug report. From time to time, I found myself > > searching my memory for that bug number I contributed to but never saw > > what happened since then, etc. > > > > Attached is a patch adding support for bookmarks in Debbugs buffers. > > I am not a heavy user of the package so I am not sure this patch > > covers the most frequent use cases. But its able to save and restore > > simple queries. > > > > Tell me whether you're interested in this feature, if there are > > changes I should apply to the patch, etc. > > It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I > have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs > in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and > `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking. > I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out those. But I won't object if I understand the additional benefit. > Not clear to me at this point. Give me time to try what you recommended. I suspect that we'll just close the bug. > In case we continue to work on this, I propose to add the code into an > additional file debbugs-bookmark.el. And we need some doc in > debbugs-ug.texi. > Right. Regards, Matthias > --0000000000002f11a306382cd80d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><di= v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le dim. 22 juin 2025, 19:38, Michael Alb= inus <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.albinus@HIDDEN">michael.albinus@HIDDEN</= a>> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Matthias= Meulien <<a href=3D"mailto:orontee@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"= noreferrer">orontee@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br> <br> > Hi Michael,<br> <br> Hi Matthias,<br> <br> > First, sorry for not posting directly to a bug report mailing list but= <br> > I am not used to report for ELPA=C2=A0 hosted packages and failed to f= ind<br> > the mail address where to report bugs for debbugs.el.=C2=A0 I just sho= w<br> > that you're the package maintainer. Please tell me whether there&#= 39;s a<br> > better place to post what follows, and I'll do it.<br> <br> GNU ELPA packages are regarded as part of Emacs. 'M-x report-emacs-bug&= #39;<br> is perfect for them.<br> <br> I'm sending my reply to <<a href=3D"mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" ta= rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>> in order t= o get a bug number.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div= ><div dir=3D"auto">Thank you!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"= auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D= "gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding= -left:1ex">> Here's my point.=C2=A0 For people (like me!) that haven= 't subscribed to<br> > emacs bug mailing list (frightened by its traffic for example) it'= s<br> > difficult to follow a bug report.=C2=A0 From time to time, I found mys= elf<br> > searching my memory for that bug number I contributed to but never saw= <br> > what happened since then, etc.<br> ><br> > Attached is a patch adding support for bookmarks in Debbugs buffers. <= br> > I am not a heavy user of the package so I am not sure this patch<br> > covers the most frequent use cases. But its able to save and restore<b= r> > simple queries.<br> ><br> > Tell me whether you're interested in this feature, if there are<br= > > changes I should apply to the patch, etc.<br> <br> It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I<b= r> have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs<br= > in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and<br> `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking.<= br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><= br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wasn't aware of that. I'll read a out = those.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gma= il_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"= margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">But I won= 9;t object if I understand the additional benefit.<br></blockquote></div></= div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not clear to me at this p= oint. Give me time to try what you recommended. I suspect that we'll ju= st close the bug.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote= " style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> In case we continue to work on this, I propose to add the code into an<br> additional file debbugs-bookmark.el. And we need some doc in debbugs-ug.tex= i.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto= ">Right.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><= div dir=3D"auto">Matthias</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote = gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 = 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div></div> --0000000000002f11a306382cd80d--
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envelope-from=michael.albinus@HIDDEN; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Matthias Meulien <orontee@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Matthias, > First, sorry for not posting directly to a bug report mailing list but > I am not used to report for ELPA hosted packages and failed to find > the mail address where to report bugs for debbugs.el. I just show > that you're the package maintainer. Please tell me whether there's a > better place to post what follows, and I'll do it. GNU ELPA packages are regarded as part of Emacs. 'M-x report-emacs-bug' is perfect for them. I'm sending my reply to <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> in order to get a bug numb= er. > Here's my point. For people (like me!) that haven't subscribed to > emacs bug mailing list (frightened by its traffic for example) it's > difficult to follow a bug report. From time to time, I found myself > searching my memory for that bug number I contributed to but never saw > what happened since then, etc. > > Attached is a patch adding support for bookmarks in Debbugs buffers.=20 > I am not a heavy user of the package so I am not sure this patch > covers the most frequent use cases. But its able to save and restore > simple queries. > > Tell me whether you're interested in this feature, if there are > changes I should apply to the patch, etc. It looks interesting. Personally, I'm not a user of bookmark.el, so I have no clear view whether we need it in parallel to the tagging of bugs in debbugs. See the commands `debbugs-gnu-toggle-tag' and `debbugs-gnu-toggle-mark', which offer a kind of internal bookmarking. But I won't object if I understand the additional benefit. In case we continue to work on this, I propose to add the code into an additional file debbugs-bookmark.el. And we need some doc in debbugs-ug.te= xi. > Thanks a lot for your time and work on Emacs. > > Regards, > --=20 > Matthias Best regards, Michael.
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