Received: (at 78904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2025 09:30:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 26 05:30:42 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uUiwM-0006MO-Gr for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 05:30:42 -0400 Received: from cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr ([140.77.13.17]:50808) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <vincent@HIDDEN>) id 1uUiwI-00060F-UB for 78904 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 05:30:39 -0400 Received: from vlefevre by cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from <vincent@HIDDEN>) id 1uUiwC-00000000pnF-24YV; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 11:30:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 11:30:32 +0200 From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#78904: 30.1; in a long directory pathname, "Cannot write backup file" is output with a spurious blank line Message-ID: <20250626093032.GC2472@HIDDEN> References: <87y0te28nd.fsf@HIDDEN> <868qledfi4.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <868qledfi4.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer-Info: https://www.vinc17.net/mutt/ User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13+86 (bb2064ae) vl-169878 (2025-02-08) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78904 Cc: 78904 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2025-06-26 12:22:11 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If you switch to the *Messages* buffer, do you see there a message > like this: > > Saving file /home/vinc17/a-very-very-very-very-very-very-long-directory-pathname > > ? I'm wondering whether this is useful as it is not visible: immediately overwritten by "Cannot write backup file...". > If so, this is the long message, shown before the "Cannot write > backup file", and it causes the mini-window to resize to 2 screen > lines instead of just 1. This resize remains in effect for the > following echo-area messages, to avoid the annoying back-and-forth > jumps of the mode line. OK, but this is not what I observe: it reduces to just 1 line for Wrote /home/vinc17/a-very-very-very-very-very-very-long-directory-pathname/foo So this seems inconsistent. -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@HIDDEN> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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Modify the buffer. 6. Save with C-x C-s The following is output: Cannot write backup file; backing up in ~/.emacs.d/%backup%~ but with a spurious blank line below, i.e. the echo area takes 2 lines instead of a single one. Note: it seems that what matters is the length of the absolute directory pathname. In my case, this is /home/vinc17/a-very-very-very-very-very-very-long-directory-pathname This occurs whether Emacs uses its own interface or runs in a terminal. In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.49, cairo version 1.18.4) of 2025-03-30, modified by Debian built on sbuild Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101016 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/30.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes 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