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Subject: bug#78939: 30.1.90; wishlist: separate storage location for safe-local-variable data
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Emacs has a sophisticated system for managing safe evaluation of file and d=
irectory local variables, as documented in 51.2.4.2 Safety of File Variable=
s, which I appreciate. However, something that I find bothersome is that th=
e permanently recorded data for safe and unsafe values is stored in the cus=
tom-set-variables code, which is stored in the init file or another file of=
 your choice. This creates a quandary for me because I like to use the cust=
omization system, but I don't want my customized settings to change often o=
r to be highly system or project specific. Using the safety system in a rou=
tine manner results in the custom-set-variables code (which I keep in the i=
nit file) being filled with pages and pages of (mostly safe) values, which =
feels awkward.

In my mind, these safe and unsafe values are more like cached data which sh=
ould be kept in a separate file, which I don't need to look at ever. As a w=
ishlist item, could a facility be integrated which allows such data to be s=
tored in a completely separate file?


In GNU Emacs 30.1.90 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.4) of 2025-06-23 built on theoden
Repository revision: a2bfce5d2a7d046a45c25364f3c69b3d8a776081
Repository branch: emacs-30
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12401006
System Description: Guix System

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=3D/home/christopher/local'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER
PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $EMACSLOADPATH: /home/christopher/local/share/emacs/30.1.90/lisp
  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: /home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/lib/e=
macs/native-site-lisp:/home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/lib/emacs/native=
-site-lisp:/home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/lib/emacs/native-site-lisp:=
/home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/lib/emacs/native-site-lisp
  value of $LANG: en_US.utf8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Info

Minor modes in effect:
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  repeat-mode: t
  pdf-occur-global-minor-mode: t
  engine-mode: t
  rcirc-track-minor-mode: t
  global-git-commit-mode: t
  magit-auto-revert-mode: t
  server-mode: t
  helm-mode: t
  helm-minibuffer-history-mode: t
  minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  isearch-fold-quotes-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
/home/christopher/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-4.0.4/helm-packages hides /home/christ=
opher/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-core-4.0.4/helm-packages
/home/christopher/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-4.0.4/helm-x-icons hides /home/christo=
pher/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-core-4.0.4/helm-x-icons
/home/christopher/.emacs.d/elpa/magit-4.3.6/magit-dired hides /home/christo=
pher/.emacs.d/elpa/magit-section-4.3.6/magit-dired
/home/christopher/.emacs.d/elpa/magit-4.3.6/magit-autorevert hides /home/ch=
ristopher/.emacs.d/elpa/magit-section-4.3.6/magit-autorevert
/home/christopher/.emacs.d/elpa/transient-0.9.2/transient hides /home/chris=
topher/local/share/emacs/30.1.90/lisp/transient

Features:
(shadow emacsbug fortran vc-hg vc-bzr apropos calc-yank tramp-cmds
wdired calc-embed ...)

Memory information:
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Subject: bug#78939: Acknowledgement (30.1.90; wishlist: separate storage
 location for safe-local-variable data)
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